CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[iamafiusny]

For example in this case we don’t know anything of the biodad or other close relatives on either side. Can you imagine setting out to investigate a case with total blanks in all those spaces?

Rsbm

I can in this case just from the fact neither parent saw, but did hear, a 4-year-old between the hours of 8am and 10am.

I cannot come up with a reasonable explanation for that fact alone.

Moo

 

[MarcieM]

I'd be curious to know if when Lilly and Jack were marked absent on Thursday morning, was it just for Thursday or was it for Thursday and Friday.

 

[tarabull]

@MarcieM

sure if anyone has replied as I am catching up. Mother is stay-at-home. Wednesday was a national holiday/pd day, so the kids were home from school. She called Lilly in sick with a cough so kept her (and Jack, presumably) home Thursday. No mention if she had called the kids in sick on the Friday before the 911 call was made. jmo

BUMP

 

[Skigh]

I enjoy the discussion but I’ve learned not to let myself become convinced of anything involving true crime because more often than not, critical information is being held back. In the example of missing people/children the only info released is hoping the public can help locate or identify the missing, but not to solve who might’ve been responsible for murder, if that’s the reason the person is missing.

For example in this case we don’t know anything of the biodad or other close relatives on either side. Can you imagine setting out to investigate a case with total blanks in all those spaces?

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. On Websleuths we always base our discussions and theories on information which is in the public domain.
There of course is much we do not know ,but that is the same in many cases.

 

[Chimera]

Not sure if anyone has replied as I am catching up. Mother is stay-at-home. Wednesday was a national holiday/pd day, so the kids were home from school. She called Lilly in sick with a cough so kept her (and Jack, presumably) home Thursday. No mention if she had called the kids in sick on the Friday before the 911 call was made. jmo

Some great points and sleuthing here !!

 

[wvmoonangel]

Rsbm

I can in this case just from the fact neither parent saw, but did hear, a 4-year-old between the hours of 8am and 10am.

I cannot come up with a reasonable explanation for that fact alone.

Moo

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

 

[Chimera]

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. On Websleuths we always made out discussions and theories on information which is in the public domain.
There of course much we do not know ,but that is the same in many cases.

Bbm.
That's correct, we're allowed to discuss what is in msm.
Also agree that what we don't know is a ton of information !
But I'm betting LE know.
Imo.

 

[AIGT]

I'd be curious to know if when Lilly and Jack were marked absent on Thursday morning, was it just for Thursday or was it for Thursday and Friday.

Would also be interested to know - If they hadn’t notified the school Friday, did the school attempt to contact the mom as they do when a child is not present and the parents haven’t notified in advance. And, if that is the case what time(s) did the school call and how does that line up with the 911 call. Hypothetically there could be a situation whee something happened and they told the school they were sick Thursday but then forgot to do it Friday and after a couple missed calls from the school realized they have to put a report in to police quick before the school does. Obviously complete hypothetical and avenues/timelines the police would’ve already put together but just a thought.

 

[Andromeda]

Further to my post in #200, I want to address IMO/MOO, “calculating” behaviour.

Most of us are parents and all of us have been kids.

When the shtf and the culprit doesn’t want to get caught, but they are thisclose to experiencing armageddon, what would they do if they thought they could get away with it? Blame it on someone else.

When the shtf and they are caught up in the storm, what do they do? Spread the blame (Everybody was doing it. “We” thought, “we all…". So-n-so said.)

jmo

 

[Chimera]

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

Bbm.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that odd !
Imo.

 

[iamafiusny]

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

I think the feeding the youngest might have been misreporting early on.

But we have it straight from the mouths of both parents they heard the kids playing and did not see Jack at all that morning.

And as I've said before, even if the parents were being completely neglectful, I can't imagine a 4-year-old not going in to see his parents for some reason.

According to stepdad the kids followed each other everywhere and Lilly went in the room several times. He would be used to going to school. He had a baby sister he might want to see. He'd likely need something at some point.

I could understand if they were making up that portion of the story because they were passed out on drugs or something, but then there is zero evidence of them wandering off except for a few missing items. Not even a door left open.

Moo

 

[MistyWaters]

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. On Websleuths we always made out discussions and theories on information which is in the public domain.
There of course much we do not know ,but that is the same in many cases.

My point is we can’t know who or what is responsible for the children’s disappearance, so it’s a bit premature to become convinced of what occurred considering a POI has not been identified and the RCMP are releasing very little information. Meanwhile discussing various theories is a great exercise in mental gymnastics! Nothing wrong with that, a reason many of us follow true crime cases.

 

[Skigh]

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

As has been said before ,the youngest child would have been able to eat the same breakfast as Jack and Lilly. It would be strange to be breast feeding before the child had had solid food. Presumably the youngest child would not usually be fed in bed on a school day. The morning routine should have been the same as any day except for the walk down the road to get the school bus.

 

[Belly]

Lunenburg County, N.S., residents told to shelter in place as police search for ‘dangerous man’

The Nova Scotia RCMP is telling Lower Northfield, N.S., residents to shelter in place as they search for a “dangerous man who may be armed” in the area Wednesday afternoon, according to a news release.

www.ctvnews.ca

I doubt it’s related but fingers crossed it could be…

 

[Bigditch]

I agree with your thoughts. If Lilly did have a cough and unwell enough to miss school ,then I would have thought she would have felt under the weather and would not have wanted to play outside.
I also cannot see her wanting to take her pack pack into the woods where it might get scratched and dirty.

The strawberry backpack? It makes me think that Lily thought she was going to school that day, and being a bright independent young girl filled it with snacks, fruit, and whatever usually went in her lunch, because mommy was busy with the 16 month old and Lily was told to be quiet. Jmo

 

[Judy Sleuth]

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[MistyWaters]

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

I think there is no doubt BOTH of them concocted a story to blatantly admit their negligence in parenting, ensuring the details correlated.

So the question becomes WHY would they give such a suspicious account because surely they were smart enough to realize their explanation would attract blame upon themselves. IMO that’s the puzzling mystery.

 

[iamafiusny]

It's been discussed earlier in this thread that the only MSM source reporting that they were *feeding* the child is one that's not viewed as providing good reporting. Can't remember the name.

Daily Mail

They're wrong a lot.

 

[doublestop]

The things I find the most troubling is that both parents were supposedly in their bedroom feeding a kid. 1. who feeds a kid at that age in a bedroom instead of in the kitchen in a high chair. 2 Why did it take two to feed a kid. 3. Why did one of them not go in there with the kids when they heard them up and about knowing the could possibly get burned on a stove trying to cook for themselves or get a hold of a knife that could hurt them. I just can't find any reasonable why to believe their story. Good parent gets up with their kids not stayed piled up in their bedroom with another kid.

Maybe by feeding the smallest one they meant she was nursing. That could well be done in bed.

 

[Stunned]

The strawberry backpack? It makes me think that Lily thought she was going to school that day, and being a bright independent young girl filled it with snacks, fruit, and whatever usually went in her lunch, because mommy was busy with the 16 month old and Lily was told to be quiet. Jmo

I'm starting to wonder about that also. Maybe they headed off to school and something happened up the road. That could be why the boyfriend took off in his car to go looking for them. IMO