CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[MistyWaters]

Consider when the media asked MBM at her first interview what she wanted, she said, paraphrasing, “I” want them home, “I” want to hold them, and “I" want them home.

Not, “PLEASE do not hurt my children! PLEASE let them go! PLEASE, just leave them at the closest gas station or public business, just PLEASE let my children go so.

Or, Lilly! Jack! It’s mommy! (you’d think daddy whould be beside her but neither of them appeared together on camera). WE love you!! So many people are helping mommy and daddy to look for you! We’ll find you, I promise! We’re waiting right here at home for you with your unicorn and dinosaur, too!

Did we see any of that? Nope. IMO, there was no abduction and IMO, the kids did not wander off.
JMO/MOO

Yet she wanted an Amber Alert. In an interview I recall that was because she claimed not everyone knew her children were missing. More “I want”s.

https://www.country94.ca/2025/05/04/search-enters-third-day-for-missing-children-in-pictou-county-n-s/#

The mother of the missing children, Malehya Brooks-Murray, has been calling for an Amber Alert, fearing for their safety.

“I want an Amber Alert for my children! I want my babies home,” Brooks-Murray said in a social media post.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Emphasis mine.
Good question !!

Idk seems like they didn’t want the hassle of getting the 4 yr old off and ready for school because they would rather stay in bed until 10 dozing off and on instead

 

[Andromeda]

I think Wednesday was just a no school day. In my area they are called "teacher in-service days", not sure if it's the same there.

Basically teachers have school, but students don't and each district will have their own calendar vs a national holiday.

It was a national “day" (Truth and Reconciliation). So businesses and banks could choose to recognize it and close too. jmo

 

[CityKid]

Curious how many of you would sit and listen to a 4 year-old play in a kitchen?

I had a low cabinet filled with pots and measuring spoons etc my kids were welcome to - when I was in the room with them.

We would cook together regularly.

But otherwise kitchens and bathrooms were off limits at those ages. Knives, stoves, hot water, heavy appliances etc.

I personally would not sit and listen to my kid play in one of those rooms, and I'm not claiming to be a perfect parent - far from it.

Moo

A 4-year-old could easily be tall enough to turn stove or oven knobs, among other hazardous behaviors.

 

[tlcya]

It was a national “day" (Truth and Reconciliation). So businesses and banks could choose to recognize it and close too. jmo

Both things can be true, Truth and Reconciliation Day and a regularly scheduled teachers in service day which at that school happens on Wednesdays. The article that is paywalled has the bus driver dropping the kids off on Tuesday, the children's last day of interaction with school or driver. Another article confirmed that Wednesday was an in service day.

https://www.facebook.com/saltspringselementary/posts/pfbid0mLUdL4gSo7vsd7dbGhLCmfa2JesfcJxN1MxejcqG7du21BsbHhDnGCM5FqJBf1xVl

School calendar (see April 30th notation below the calendar)

 

[iamafiusny]

Idk seems like they didn’t want the hassle of getting the 4 yr old off and ready for school because they would rather stay in bed until 10 dozing off and on instead

Or the kids weren't there to go to school.

Moo moo moo

 

[Andromeda]

I've seen you mention before that Wednesday was a national holiday in Canada. I live here and I was unaware of that. Can you clarify what holiday you're referring to?

I went onto the school website, but their calendar is literally not populated with info. There was a name for the day off other than “pd day”. It left me with the impression it was Truth and Reconciliation (orange day). But looking that up, its date is September 30th. So, I misspoke. Looking at the provincial holidays, the 29th isn’t recognized, either. Looking at the bus calendar, that week was report card week for both elementary and secondary.

I’m sure it will pop back up again in an article.

Nova Scotia Statutory Holidays 2025

Nova Scotia Statutory Holidays 2025 : New Year's Day (Jan-1), Family Day(Feb-17), Good Friday(Apr-18), Canada Day(July-1), Labour Day(Sept-1), Christmas Day(Dec-25).

canada-stat-holidays.com

 

[Skigh]

Idk seems like they didn’t want the hassle of getting the 4 yr old off and ready for school because they would rather stay in bed until 10 dozing off and on instead

On the other hand their day would have been easier with Jack at school and they only had to walk him down the lane.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Or the kids weren't there to go to school.

Moo moo moo

That’s an option too imo

 

[Angelcat13]

Curious how many of you would sit and listen to a 4 year-old play in a kitchen?

I had a low cabinet filled with pots and measuring spoons etc my kids were welcome to - when I was in the room with them.

We would cook together regularly.

But otherwise kitchens and bathrooms were off limits at those ages. Knives, stoves, hot water, heavy appliances etc.

I personally would not sit and listen to my kid play in one of those rooms, and I'm not claiming to be a perfect parent - far from it.

Moo

I was on a conference call working from home when my daughter was almost 4 and my son was in his 2’s. We have a large Living Room that included my desk so I could keep an eye on the kids even while working. But I was distracted by the call and didn’t realize my daughter had gone into the Kitchen and brought a bunch of spices back to the Living Room where she proudly poured them all over the coffee table and was mixing them up while proudly announcing she was Rachel Ray. I think I would have noticed if she had stayed in the Kitchen because I agree with you that would have been concerning because of the stove, knives, etc.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Thanks. Do you recall if he said it during an on-screen interview? Or quoted in an article? That will help me look.

Jack has short, blond hair and was wearing blue dinosaur boots. Martell said he had not seen Jack on Friday morning, but believed he was wearing a brown shirt and pants with a pull-up diaper underneath. Stepfather calls for expanded search in case of 2 missing Nova Scotia children | Globalnews.ca

 

[Andromeda]

Question for any Nova Scotia residents here: Was it a particularly cold winter? Would the ground still be frozen? I checked "last frost" dates for gardeners and this link says May 26.

Frost Dates for New Glasgow, NS

www.almanac.com

Here is some historical info for you, you can access. I plugged in “Colchester” /Truro which is not far from them.

The Weather Year Round Anywhere on Earth - Weather Spark

weatherspark.com

 

[MistyWaters]

The thing is, there's a lot we DON'T know.

- We don't know if anyone checked on Lilly's cough situation that morning. We know she entered her mom & DM's bedroom a couple of times and was at least told to be quiet as to not wake the baby, but otherwise we have no idea what (or any) conversation may have taken place. Such as, how's your cough, how do you feel, go ahead and get yourself and Jack some cereal, etc.
- We don't know if she had any other cold/flu symptoms or if the parents just opted to keep her (and Jack) home in case she (and Jack, even if he didn't have any symptoms yet) were contagious. Normal public school policy strongly recommends if your kids are showing illness symptoms, keep them home.
- We don't know why the 16 month old was being settled back to sleep. Maybe she had a rough night? Maybe she was up fussing with teething half the night? Perfectly normal at that age, and possible that was going on.

I agree that all of these questions about every last detail that morning were already asked by investigators.

In all fairness, I sometimes wonder why people even bother talking to the media following a crime or disappearance, rather than allowing the police give a briefing instead. Because it almost always follows the same pattern, each word, each sentence, each mannerism in critiqued and analyzed by SM, the interviewee never getting the opportunity to clarify. They’re not reading from notes and often their comments are fragmented, confused and don’t follow a timeline.

Better just to say nothing, but then of course that’s arouses suspicion too. There’s no right answer but it surely must be devastating for the innocent and grieving loved ones to have to endure online accusations from total strangers.
JMO

 

[Mauig’ma]

I really wish we knew what the mom and brother next door have to say. Were they home during that time? Why haven’t we heard anything about them? I’m sure le have interviewed them extensively and know these answers. Why hasn’t something been leaked I wonder

 

[Skigh]

I've just been reading some of the news articles and something else that struck me was that DM said that Lily was off school because of a cough. I might be the only mean one here but for my child to stay off school for a cough it had to either be accompanied by a streaming cold or it sounded so bad that I kept him off to take him to the doctor because I thought it was a chest infection.

So Lily had a cough bad enough to be kept off school but not bad enough for anyone to get up with her to give her medication for a temperature or to check if she needed a drink. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere here about nobody getting up to see to her but off school for a cough? If Lily was off school why did Jack also have to stay off? It's not like anyone had to drive him anywhere. Just dress him and wait at the end of the driveway with him for the bus. Why was the 16 month old still in bed too - they're usually busy little people at that age, especially if she'd heard her brother and sister talking. Sorry, I know that none of you have the answers to these questions but I'm assuming these are the type of things that the investigating team would be wondering about.

There was a really odd case here in the UK a good while back where a mother hid her daughter in a drawer under a bed in her boyfriend's uncle's house. The child was drugged and I believe the scheme at the time was that the uncle would "find" the child and they would all share any reward money. I'm not saying that these two have hidden the kiddos for the same reason but when things seem a bit "off" they usually are.

A situation such as the one you mentioned where Karen Matthews hid her daughter in order to make money had gone through my mind.

 

[ginestra]

Maybe Lily couldn't find Jack and came in to rouse them up? Finally she went to look for him?

 

[iamafiusny]

I was on a conference call working from home when my daughter was almost 4 and my son was in his 2’s. We have a large Living Room that included my desk so I could keep an eye on the kids even while working. But I was distracted by the call and didn’t realize my daughter had gone into the Kitchen and brought a bunch of spices back to the Living Room where she proudly poured them all over the coffee table and was mixing them up while proudly announcing she was Rachel Ray. I think I would have noticed if she had stayed in the Kitchen because I agree with you that would have been concerning because of the stove, knives, etc.

That is adorable.

I think we've all momentarily lost track of our kids and experienced those moments, but mom and stepdad describe it as being in bed hearing them play.

And I'm sure a lot of us have asked an older sibling to "please watch your brother for a quick minute" or "can you please grab your brother a snack", but the info we have is at least 8am to 10am and I don't believe any responsible parent would do that.

Especially when the older sibling in this case was only 6 with possible developmental delays.

Moo

 

[MistyWaters]

I really wish we knew what the mom and brother next door have to say. Were they home during that time? Why haven’t we heard anything about them? I’m sure le have interviewed them extensively and know these answers. Why hasn’t something been leaked I wonder

We do not have the equivalent of a Nancy Grace in Canada (thankfully!)

 

[iamafiusny]

Maybe Lily couldn't find Jack and came in to rouse them up? Finally she went to look for him?

Well stepdad makes it sound like he did interact with Lilly, telling her to be quiet to allow the baby as much sleep as possible.

So I'd think/hope if Lilly had mentioned she couldn't find Jack they would have gotten up.

Plus stepdad said he heard him playing in the kitchen.

And this increases the chances the door would be left open, they might go different directions possibly one in an easier to find place than dense woods etc.

Moo

 

[Skigh]

In all fairness, I sometimes wonder why people even bother talking to the media following a crime or disappearance, rather than allowing the police give a briefing instead. Because it almost always follows the same pattern, each word, each sentence, each mannerism in critiqued and analyzed by SM, the interviewee never getting the opportunity to clarify. They’re not reading from notes and often their comments are fragmented, confused and don’t follow a timeline.

Better just to say nothing, but then of course that’s arouses suspicion too. There’s no right answer but it surely must be devastating for the innocent and grieving loved ones to have to endure online accusations from total strangers.
JMO

I think it is only when people pick up multiple inconsistencies that a person's words are closely examined.