CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[Nikynoo]

I believe it's the area around Lilly and Jacks' home ?
Imo.

this is all I can get from the paywalled link:

'Nova Scotia RCMP's major crime investigators are advising police to return to specific areas around the home of Lilly and Jack Sullivan in a rural hamlet of Pictou County, to try and figure out what happened to the children who went missing without a trace a week and a half ago'

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[MistyWaters]

RSBM

According to the Globe & Mail article those 35 folks have already been interviewed:

"In a news release Tuesday, Nova Scotia RCMP said they have interviewed 35 people, including those closest to the two children, as well as community members. Police said they received and are following up on more than 180 tips from the public."

Nova Scotia RCMP’s search for missing children re-examining areas around siblings’ home as police plead for tips

Police also interviewed community members and those closest to the children

www.theglobeandmail.com

This is the actual RCMP release. It would make a lot more sense if the 35 who were identified have already been interviewed. It can’t really be said to be an ‘active’ investigation if police aren’t actively interviewing anyone who comes forward with important information. JMO

Update: Missing children investigation and search in Pictou County | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

“To date, more than 180 tips have been received from the public, and are being followed up on. Officers have so far identified 35 people for formal interviews as part of the investigation, including community members and those closest to the children. And on May 8 and 9, the RCMP's Underwater Recovery Team (URT) scoured bodies of water around Lansdowne Station; URT's two-day operation didn't uncover any evidence.”

 

[MistyWaters]

I wondered if there was ever any confirmation that the mother called the school saying that they would be absent?

No, nothing that I’ve noticed. But there has been mention here about a possible school attendance app, whereby absences can be input online by the parent to eliminate the need for phoning.

 

[aggiekel2005]

@Mauig’ma I didn't get to reply on the last thread before it was shut down and a new one created. You make a really great point regarding the panic of losing my kids that I wasn't considering. It does remind me of a friend who was unable to remember the swimsuit her son had on when they couldn't find him at an indoor waterpark (they found him, he was fine).. thanks for the reality check on that.

 

[Ontario Mom]

@Mauig’ma I didn't get to reply on the last thread before it was shut down and a new one created. You make a really great point regarding the panic of losing my kids that I wasn't considering. It does remind me of a friend who was unable to remember the swimsuit her son had on when they couldn't find him at an indoor waterpark (they found him, he was fine).. thanks for the reality check on that.

I think any parent would like to believe we'd be able to recall every last stitch of clothing/shoes/hat/bag/whatever our kid was wearing when he or she disappeared. I've followed way too many of these cases over the years where that simply doesn't happen. In the panic and the trauma of the realization the child is missing, sometimes the parents just draw a complete blank.

 

[AIGT]

I think any parent would like to believe we'd be able to recall every last stitch of clothing/shoes/hat/bag/whatever our kid was wearing when he or she disappeared. I've followed way too many of these cases over the years where that simply doesn't happen. In the panic and the trauma of the realization the child is missing, sometimes the parents just draw a complete blank.

So you think it would be extra odd for a parent in this situation to know what a child was wearing without even seeing them then right?

 

[iamafiusny]

I think any parent would like to believe we'd be able to recall every last stitch of clothing/shoes/hat/bag/whatever our kid was wearing when he or she disappeared. I've followed way too many of these cases over the years where that simply doesn't happen. In the panic and the trauma of the realization the child is missing, sometimes the parents just draw a complete blank.

All discussions on if a parent would remember what their child was wearing in a moment of panic become moot when the child was never seen that day at all.

Moo

 

[Ontario Mom]

So you think it would be extra odd for a parent in this situation to know what a child was wearing without even seeing them then right?

In this situation, what's been released to the public is that Lilly was seen since she went into her parent's room a few times that morning, but Jack wasn't seen by either mom or DM, only heard playing in the other room. Other than the pull-up his clothing hasn't been confirmed as far as I'm aware.
Both his boots and her boots (and her strawberry back pack) are missing so it's assumed that's what they put on & took with them.

I don't find any of that odd, no.

 

[Snoop Sister]

RCMP's search for missing children re-examining the area around siblings' home?

As in the brother's home? [I can't access the article]

This is an update on an old article imo. The problem with paywall, one can’t read the entire article. Initially after the search was scaled back, the RCMP did start re-examining DM’s home. Perhaps they are still doing that.

 

[Ontario Mom]

This is a really old article from when the search was scaled back.

That was a new article yesterday, highlight the RCMP statement from yesterday.

 

[Snoop Sister]

dbm

 

[Cranky]

I've just been reading some of the news articles and something else that struck me was that DM said that Lily was off school because of a cough. I might be the only mean one here but for my child to stay off school for a cough it had to either be accompanied by a streaming cold or it sounded so bad that I kept him off to take him to the doctor because I thought it was a chest infection.

So Lily had a cough bad enough to be kept off school but not bad enough for anyone to get up with her to give her medication for a temperature or to check if she needed a drink. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere here about nobody getting up to see to her but off school for a cough? If Lily was off school why did Jack also have to stay off? It's not like anyone had to drive him anywhere. Just dress him and wait at the end of the driveway with him for the bus. Why was the 16 month old still in bed too - they're usually busy little people at that age, especially if she'd heard her brother and sister talking. Sorry, I know that none of you have the answers to these questions but I'm assuming these are the type of things that the investigating team would be wondering about.

There was a really odd case here in the UK a good while back where a mother hid her daughter in a drawer under a bed in her boyfriend's uncle's house. The child was drugged and I believe the scheme at the time was that the uncle would "find" the child and they would all share any reward money. I'm not saying that these two have hidden the kiddos for the same reason but when things seem a bit "off" they usually are.

 

[Sailor Bug]

According to the mother she last saw Jack the night before (Thurs). Did the description of brown clothes for Jack come from the step father or the mother? How did the mother make the determination that Jack would not go to school on Fri, if she did not see him to assess him that morning? Was Jack sick the night before he went missing?

 

[iamafiusny]

In this situation, what's been released to the public is that Lilly was seen since she went into her parent's room a few times that morning, but Jack wasn't seen by either mom or DM, only heard playing in the other room. Other than the pull-up his clothing hasn't been confirmed as far as I'm aware.
Both his boots and her boots (and her strawberry back pack) are missing so it's assumed that's what they put on & took with them.

I don't find any of that odd, no.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that. Anyone even mildly responsible would say a 4 year-old should have been seen an attended to by 10 AM.

I can believe some people might not be capable of remembering anything their child was wearing.


But I don't think I'm wrong in saying it's not opinion, but fact, that an age appropriate caregiver should have seen and tended to a 4 year-old by 10 am.

And I think it's so unlikely it's near impossible that a 4 year-old wouldn't have gone to their bedroom just like, or even with, their sister.

Moo

 

[iamafiusny]

Curious how many of you would sit and listen to a 4 year-old play in a kitchen?

I had a low cabinet filled with pots and measuring spoons etc my kids were welcome to - when I was in the room with them.

We would cook together regularly.

But otherwise kitchens and bathrooms were off limits at those ages. Knives, stoves, hot water, heavy appliances etc.

I personally would not sit and listen to my kid play in one of those rooms, and I'm not claiming to be a perfect parent - far from it.

Moo

 

[Skigh]

I've just been reading some of the news articles and something else that struck me was that DM said that Lily was off school because of a cough. I might be the only mean one here but for my child to stay off school for a cough it had to either be accompanied by a streaming cold or it sounded so bad that I kept him off to take him to the doctor because I thought it was a chest infection.

So Lily had a cough bad enough to be kept off school but not bad enough for anyone to get up with her to give her medication for a temperature or to check if she needed a drink. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere here about nobody getting up to see to her but off school for a cough? If Lily was off school why did Jack also have to stay off? It's not like anyone had to drive him anywhere. Just dress him and wait at the end of the driveway with him for the bus. Why was the 16 month old still in bed too - they're usually busy little people at that age, especially if she'd heard her brother and sister talking. Sorry, I know that none of you have the answers to these questions but I'm assuming these are the type of things that the investigating team would be wondering about.

There was a really odd case here in the UK a good while back where a mother hid her daughter in a drawer under a bed in her boyfriend's uncle's house. The child was drugged and I believe the scheme at the time was that the uncle would "find" the child and they would all share any reward money. I'm not saying that these two have hidden the kiddos for the same reason but when things seem a bit "off" they usually are.

I agree with your thoughts. If Lilly did have a cough and unwell enough to miss school ,then I would have thought she would have felt under the weather and would not have wanted to play outside.
I also cannot see her wanting to take her pack pack into the woods where it might get scratched and dirty.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I've just been reading some of the news articles and something else that struck me was that DM said that Lily was off school because of a cough. I might be the only mean one here but for my child to stay off school for a cough it had to either be accompanied by a streaming cold or it sounded so bad that I kept him off to take him to the doctor because I thought it was a chest infection.

So Lily had a cough bad enough to be kept off school but not bad enough for anyone to get up with her to give her medication for a temperature or to check if she needed a drink. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere here about nobody getting up to see to her but off school for a cough? If Lily was off school why did Jack also have to stay off? It's not like anyone had to drive him anywhere. Just dress him and wait at the end of the driveway with him for the bus. Why was the 16 month old still in bed too - they're usually busy little people at that age, especially if she'd heard her brother and sister talking. Sorry, I know that none of you have the answers to these questions but I'm assuming these are the type of things that the investigating team would be wondering about.

There was a really odd case here in the UK a good while back where a mother hid her daughter in a drawer under a bed in her boyfriend's uncle's house. The child was drugged and I believe the scheme at the time was that the uncle would "find" the child and they would all share any reward money. I'm not saying that these two have hidden the kiddos for the same reason but when things seem a bit "off" they usually are.

The thing is, there's a lot we DON'T know.

- We don't know if anyone checked on Lilly's cough situation that morning. We know she entered her mom & DM's bedroom a couple of times and was at least told to be quiet as to not wake the baby, but otherwise we have no idea what (or any) conversation may have taken place. Such as, how's your cough, how do you feel, go ahead and get yourself and Jack some cereal, etc.
- We don't know if she had any other cold/flu symptoms or if the parents just opted to keep her (and Jack) home in case she (and Jack, even if he didn't have any symptoms yet) were contagious. Normal public school policy strongly recommends if your kids are showing illness symptoms, keep them home.
- We don't know why the 16 month old was being settled back to sleep. Maybe she had a rough night? Maybe she was up fussing with teething half the night? Perfectly normal at that age, and possible that was going on.

I agree that all of these questions about every last detail that morning were already asked by investigators.

 

[Cordelia Gray]

There is something on the dispatch about the kids missing since 8am, but the call was placed around 10am. That timing makes more sense to me. I am thinking the stepdad looked for the kids first and then the 911 call was made.

 

[Chimera]

I've just been reading some of the news articles and something else that struck me was that DM said that Lily was off school because of a cough. I might be the only mean one here but for my child to stay off school for a cough it had to either be accompanied by a streaming cold or it sounded so bad that I kept him off to take him to the doctor because I thought it was a chest infection.

So Lily had a cough bad enough to be kept off school but not bad enough for anyone to get up with her to give her medication for a temperature or to check if she needed a drink. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere here about nobody getting up to see to her but off school for a cough? If Lily was off school why did Jack also have to stay off ? It's not like anyone had to drive him anywhere. Just dress him and wait at the end of the driveway with him for the bus. Why was the 16 month old still in bed too - they're usually busy little people at that age, especially if she'd heard her brother and sister talking. Sorry, I know that none of you have the answers to these questions but I'm assuming these are the type of things that the investigating team would be wondering about.

There was a really odd case here in the UK a good while back where a mother hid her daughter in a drawer under a bed in her boyfriend's uncle's house. The child was drugged and I believe the scheme at the time was that the uncle would "find" the child and they would all share any reward money. I'm not saying that these two have hidden the kiddos for the same reason but when things seem a bit "off" they usually are.

Emphasis mine.
Good question !!

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that. Anyone even mildly responsible would say a 4 year-old should have been seen an attended to by 10 AM.

I can believe some people might not be capable of remembering anything their child was wearing.


But I don't think I'm wrong in saying it's not opinion, but fact, that an age appropriate caregiver should have seen and tended to a 4 year-old by 10 am.

And I think it's so unlikely it's near impossible that a 4 year-old wouldn't have gone to their bedroom just like, or even with, their sister.

Moo

You don't have to believe any of it. I was only reiterating what's been released to the public.