CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[MarcieM]

Does anyone know if people around the area have doorbell cameras? I'm sure there would be deer cams on some of the trails. If cell phone service is spotty does that mean cell phone footprints would be unlikely?

 

[Diddian]

I don’t recall mention of any trails in that specific area.

There could still be trail cams if, for example, someone hunted in that area so put up cameras to learn the paths deer or other wildlife take through the area.

 

[MarcieM]

There could still be trail cams if, for example, someone hunted in that area so put up cameras to learn the paths deer or other wildlife take through the area.

Yes! I too think there has to be deer cams in the area. There has to be something, somewhere that either seen the children or someone who was in the area that morning.

 

[iamafiusny]

From your link -
In addition to suspecting foul play, kidnapping has not been ruled out.

To me that reads like it's a quote from former homicide detective, Ryan.

Moo

 

[iamafiusny]

I really think that if anyone else saw the children that morning it would have been reported in the media.

I think DM would tell us of anything that would back up his story.

Moo

 

[Andromeda]

I’m assuming this timeline has already been linked. But on the off chance it has not yet been,

“[…]Mr. Martell says he’s been exceedingly co-operative with investigators. “I gave them everything from my phone. I asked for a lie detector test and drug tests. … I’m the one trying to move this forward and give any information that I have.” He adds that police are looking at the wireless router in the home, to see who connected to the internet at what times[…]"

Two Nova Scotia children are missing. Here’s a timeline of key events since the siblings vanished

Six-year-old Lilly Sullivan and her four-year-old brother Jack were reported missing on May 2

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[AIGT]

Yes! I too think there has to be deer cams in the area. There has to be something, somewhere that either seen the children or someone who was in the area that morning.

There was mention on the dispatch in the first couple of days they came across a trail cam and were attempting to contact the owner. No idea where in that 6km radius they were when they found it though.

 

[iamafiusny]

Mr. Martell says he’s been exceedingly co-operative with investigators. “I gave them everything from my phone.

Mr. Martell says. Exceedingly.



Jmo

 

[Andromeda]

"A network of backcountry roads that only the locals know criss-cross rivers and dense forest that’s swarming with blackflies. There’s no cellular service."

ETA note the first image and car without plate. Like Quebec, N.S. only has to have one plate on the car and it is to be fastened to the rear.

Two Nova Scotia children are missing. Here’s a timeline of key events since the siblings vanished

 

[MarcieM]

There was mention on the dispatch in the first couple of days they came across a trail cam and were attempting to contact the owner. No idea where in that 6km radius they were when they found it though.

Yasssss. I missed this! This is hopeful!!! I just can't believe there's been no sign or trace of anything yet, atleast not that we've heard.

 

[MistyWaters]

To me that reads like it's a quote from former homicide detective, Ryan.

Moo

The RCMP all ready stated their missing person investigation includes all avenues so it stands to reason that includes abduction. Regardless of why CTV has included it in their report I can’t imagine anybody would not want all possibilities considered since we don’t know what new information the RCMP has gathered.
JMO

 

[Andromeda]

Incase anyone wonders why there would be no cellular service, there, cellular service is a large problem in the rural/very rural areas of N.S. Here are the provinces FAQs:

FAQs

Cellular for Nova Scotia Program Cellular Network Access Coverage Map
Under information: "The map currently shows the existing telecommunications towers scheduled for upgrades, indicated as tower icons, with their projected coverage areas highlighted in pink…"
If you type in Landsdowne Station in the search bar, the community centre location will populate and take you to Landsdowne Station.

Experience

 

[iamafiusny]

The RCMP all ready stated their missing person investigation includes all avenues so it stands to reason that includes abduction. Regardless of why CTV has included it in their report I can’t imagine anybody would not want all possibilities considered since we don’t know what new information the RCMP has gathered.
JMO

Twice that I recall RCMP has stated there is no evidence of abduction. It's one of the very few things they have clarified.

"He has repeatedly said he believes the children were abducted, but RCMP have said there is no evidence of that."

Redirect Notice

 

[MistyWaters]

Twice that I recall RCMP has stated there is no evidence of abduction. It's one of the very few things they have clarified.

"He has repeatedly said he believes the children were abducted, but RCMP have said there is no evidence of that."

Redirect Notice

What’s the point of debating whether an abduction took place or not? Perhaps the RCMP have more evidence now than they had 13 days ago when they made that statement.

 

[AIGT]

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After watching all of his it interviews I don’t think it’s a leap to think that if he had other information that would help his story make sense he would’ve said it.

 

[MistyWaters]

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After watching all of his it interviews I don’t think it’s a leap to think that if he had other information that would help his story make sense he would’ve said it.

Much like he didn’t mention the bus driver, don’t expect him to publicly name any other 3rd parties. Police and the media have no doubt warned him that he can only speak for himself and nobody else. So it doesn’t matter whether his story makes sense to us as we’ve been assured the RCMP are actively working ‘day and night’ on this file. Only they can either clear him or pursue legal action if any wrong doing has occurred. We’re merely spectators

 

[abanddb123]

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I've been puzzling over their two different reactions, because according to reports they were met with privately right before the RCMP held the press conference where they said it was unlikely the kids were still alive.

Her reaction was to go sit in an ambulance (panic attack?), go home with her mom and baby, and cut DM out of her life completely. We haven't seen or heard from her again.

DM remained in front of cameras for a week, but not to talk about Lilly and Jack. Don't you think you'd need at least a day if you'd just been told your step kids have likely passed away?

Moo

Word!!!

 

[AIGT]

Much like he didn’t mention the bus driver, don’t expect him to publicly name any other 3rd parties. Police and the media have no doubt warned him that he can only speak for himself and nobody else. So it doesn’t matter whether his story makes sense to us as we’ve been assured the RCMP are actively working ‘day and night’ on this file. Only they can either clear him or pursue legal action if any wrong doing has occurred. We’re merely spectators

I’m not sure what you mean about mentioning the bus driver or third parties. I can tell you police have no doubt not warned him about that because they can’t do that. Charter rights.

I agree it doesn’t matter if his story makes sense to us or not. The point being made is he himself said he wanted the people online to stop saying crazy things. He has painted a picture in the media that he was the only one looking and he looked everywhere etc. If he had more information that would help his story IMO he would’ve been yelling it to every news camera he saw.

You may think that for some reason he is asking for RCMP to fly in a polygraph and drug test him while in front of the cameras while at the same time keeping exculpatory info private. You could be completely right and I am completely wrong. Just opinions.

 

[Andromeda]

It’s clear why police did not issue an Amber Alert. But since ground search did not locate Lilly and Jack and since no one responded to the vulnerable person alerts, I’m wondering whether there is something to what DM said in an earlier interview, quoted below in the linked Global News article. Maybe he has known all along that the kids would never be found on their property, but knows the direction they were taken and let it slip? MOO/JMO

It’s a two hour drive to the NB border from Landsdowne Station (Tidnish Bridge,) and only 25 minutes to the PEI Link (border/bridge that links NB and PEI). You can see on Google Maps, Cape Jourimain National Wildlife Area is literally in NB at the Link. Not sure about hotels immediately in that vicinity, or if camping was open for the season the first week of May. There is a campground right beside the National Wildlife Area called Cape Tourmentine Beach Campground and they are open now.

It would be so easy for police to take a scent tracker to the trail head of that Wildlife Area and see if they hit.

[…]"He’s calling for the search to be extended to include provincial borders and airports, in case the children were abducted.

“Post any officers they can get, at the New Brunswick border and P.E.I. … and get them out at every airport possible,” he said.[…]"

Stepfather calls for expanded search in case of 2 missing Nova Scotia children | Globalnews.ca

Cape Tormentine Beach Campground - Camp with Us
Google Maps

 

[MistyWaters]

I’m not sure what you mean about mentioning the bus driver or third parties. I can tell you police have no doubt not warned him about that because they can’t do that. Charter rights.

I agree it doesn’t matter if his story makes sense to us or not. The point being made is he himself said he wanted the people online to stop saying crazy things. He has painted a picture in the media that he was the only one looking and he looked everywhere etc. If he had more information that would help his story IMO he would’ve been yelling it to every news camera he saw.

You may think that for some reason he is asking for RCMP to fly in a polygraph and drug test him while in front of the cameras while at the same time keeping exculpatory info private. You could be completely right and I am completely wrong. Just opinions.

DM knew the children were in school early in the week and he didn’t mention the name of the bus driver as someone who would prove it,

Common sense is not a charter right. It’s goes for any legal matter - nobody can legally speak (or testify) on behalf another adult. What you’re expecting is that DM would publicly incriminate a 3rd party to publicly clear himself, if he had the opportunity. If he’s aware of somebody who can provide an alibi, he needs to be talking to LE, not the media. What if that person has no intention to state under oath what DM expects him to say? What if he’s told DM one thing and LE another because he fearful of reprisal? No way is the media going to be stuck in the middle. They’re only interested in what an interviewee has to say about themselves, and not speak for 3rd parties.

He can talk about polygraphs and drug testing all he wants but did you notice he hasn’t given the results to the media? So what’s that prove? Nothing.

You might be talking what he says too seriously, IMO he’s just filling air space and he’s not about to give the public the answers, even if he has them.