CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[MistyWaters]

Thanks, I'm very familiar with local policing, but when it comes to the Feds looking after local communities down east and out west, I'm a bit lost how they handle it with a local "flavour" or more federal like? When news said "major crimes" was entering into picture, I didn't know if they split that with lg local forces in area, or their own major crimes . In Ontario we have provincial forces also, and between them and local forces or even other local forces they share resources when needed. Does anyone know if RCMP extended a request to other major forces for assistance looking for L&J or any relevant suspects that might be in the area?

This is a public FB post on behalf of Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit so it appears in Nova Scotia the resources are organized within a geographical district.

Truro & Colchester Code 1 Coverage

Something to consider: In reading this release below, it seems evident this is a major, if not the key focus of Northeast Nova Dsitrict and provincial RCMP these days. It is getting national...

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[iamafiusny]

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I would never think everything's already been searched if I couldn't find my babies, but that's just me.

Moo

 

[su5ie]

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In my view RMPC aren't very forthcoming with what they suspect has happened and in my opinion mom leaving day after kids go missing is highly unusual. I think ruling out an abduction so early on sent the rumour mill into overdrive and social media rumour is getting tangled in facts .

It is extremely rare for two siblings to go missing without some kind of family involvement and I feel people should focus on that .

Is Daniel being so vocal helping or inhibiting the case ? imo it is taking the focus away from missing children . I think the media are targeting him as they are not getting the scoop from the RMPC but I think by putting a spotlight on him. Most of the talk then is of his behaviour and is he or is he not guilty

2 beautiful innocent kids are gone ,so far nothing has come to light as to what happened them and when . I think any footage that can be gleaned from anyone passing Gairloch Road on the 1st of May is vital as it will show if the kids actually returned home on May the 1st then the investigation can be narrowed down to the family home being ground zero .

I haven't seen an msm statement saying the family home or the yard was being forensically searched I think this needs to happen . What if the kids got into a crawl space and suffocated . I do not know at the moment if it's an unfortunate accident that the kids got themselves into because there was at least a 1 hour window were they weren't supervised or something more sinister.

Imo the kids are in an area within a 2km radius of the home if they wandered off . I know searchers placed pink ribbons on trees so they knew where was searched but how many times have people been missed in searched zones and months later a poor unfortunate member of the public comes across the remains .

Sorry for the rant but I just want them found looking at photos of the kids it's heartbreaking how tiny they are . Part of me thinks a relative has them safe and for whatever reason abducted them but on the other hand after a month it hard to think there will be a positive outcome

 

[Brooklyn127]

MOO
I believe the children ran away (from home). Not "wandered off."
Lilly was likely either angry, or her feelings hurt, or both, when they were told to be quiet (and fend for themselves) so that the "baby" (toddler) and parents could sleep in.
Running away would normally require a destination, but not necessarily. At that, or any age.
The road would be most likely, or the path that has been described in previous posts. The woods would actually be least likely, unless the thought process was "we can hide here, and when they find us, they will be so sorry."
I personally, MOO, do not believe that the parents did them any direct harm.
Nor do I have any clue where they wound up. Hoping for the best, fearing the worst.

 

[PromotedPawn]

MOO
I believe the children ran away (from home). Not "wandered off."
Lilly was likely either angry, or her feelings hurt, or both, when they were told to be quiet (and fend for themselves) so that the "baby" (toddler) and parents could sleep in.
Running away would normally require a destination, but not necessarily. At that, or any age.
The road would be most likely, or the path that has been described in previous posts. The woods would actually be least likely, unless the thought process was "we can hide here, and when they find us, they will be so sorry."
I personally, MOO, do not believe that the parents did them any direct harm.
Nor do I have any clue where they wound up. Hoping for the best, fearing the worst.

Very interesting perspective. Considering their ages, this sounds like a real possibilty. I hope you're right. This is better than the alternatives.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

MOO
I believe the children ran away (from home). Not "wandered off."
Lilly was likely either angry, or her feelings hurt, or both, when they were told to be quiet (and fend for themselves) so that the "baby" (toddler) and parents could sleep in.
Running away would normally require a destination, but not necessarily. At that, or any age.
The road would be most likely, or the path that has been described in previous posts. The woods would actually be least likely, unless the thought process was "we can hide here, and when they find us, they will be so sorry."
I personally, MOO, do not believe that the parents did them any direct harm.
Nor do I have any clue where they wound up. Hoping for the best, fearing the worst.

Yet they managed to do this running away without leaving a scrap of a sign of themselves behind. Not even a candy wrapper.

And never got tired or gave up, just kept trekking along out of the range of searchers. At ages 4 and 6.

Seems unlikely to me. JMO

And only horrible parents would tell small children to fend for themselves so they could sleep in. How much fending for themselves could children 4 and 6 realistically do?

 

[ttjo]

DBM

 

[IzzyBlanche]

DMB also

 

[Brooklyn127]

Yet they managed to do this running away without leaving a scrap of a sign of themselves behind. Not even a candy wrapper.

And never got tired or gave up, just kept trekking along out of the range of searchers. At ages 4 and 6.

Seems unlikely to me. JMO

And only horrible parents would tell small children to fend for themselves so they could sleep in. How much fending for themselves could children 4 and 6 realistically do?

It was said, here, many, many times that they were left to fend for themselves. On that morning, at least. And possibly, most likely, others.
Does that make them horrible parents?
I don't know, I can't judge.
Wanting to sleep in is not technically a crime. But many parents, here, feel like they fell short of what a responsible parent would do.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

And only horrible parents would tell small children to fend for themselves so they could sleep in

To be fair, how many of us as children would get up on the weekend, get some cereal, and turn on cartoons while our parents slept?

Alternatively how many parents here have ever had a child go outside into the yard, and when you realized, you went out and called them back in? But you were lucky; they were there?

There are other cases on WS where parents were "partying" and therefore didn't notice their kids until much later than 10:00 the next day. That's different, though. JMO.

 

[Dreamcherry]

To be fair, how many of us as children would get up on the weekend, get some cereal, and turn on cartoons while our parents slept?

I was that kid every morning! I woke up at like 4 or 5 am, grabbed a box of cereal or jar of peanut butter and had a snack while I watched Astroboy, or whatever was on that early, lol. My mom worked until midnight, and my dad stayed up to pick her up after her shift (and had to work in the morning!) They weren't going to wake up at 4 am and operate on like 3 hours sleep for the rest of the day just to watch me eat Froot Loops and quietly watch cartoons. That was just the norm back in the day, idk.

 

[su5ie]

I was that kid every morning! I woke up at like 4 or 5 am, grabbed a box of cereal or jar of peanut butter and had a snack while I watched Astroboy, or whatever was on that early, lol. My mom worked until midnight, and my dad stayed up to pick her up after her shift (and had to work in the morning!) They weren't going to wake up at 4 am and operate on like 3 hours sleep for the rest of the day just to watch me eat Froot Loops and quietly watch cartoons. That was just the norm back in the day, idk.

I also got up at weekends and grabbed cereal while parents slept in ,both of my parents were teetotal and weren't into social gatherings but they liked to have a lie in on a Sunday or Bank Holiday. The only thing I do remember is I don't think I was 4 or even 6 years old but when my younger sister was 6 she would get up at 5am alone to watch cartoons and to have the TV remote to herself . Being an 80s kid both of us would have also been out playing from mid morning until dinner time at 5pm but I don't think we were under 7 yrs old but plenty of neighbourhood kids were .

I think in todays world were kids are sitting on ipads all day inside the home including my own and are more likely to be in clubs and after school activities then out on the streets It makes it harder to comprehend for some that parents would be allowing their children to go unsupervised.

Helicopter parenting is very much the norm now . I don't think the parents were doing anything wrong by having a lie in . But if the home wasn't locked up securely it did leave the children in a vulnerable position being in such rural environment.

Besides anything else bears are in large populations in Nova Scotta so having a door unlocked with the possibility that kids could go outside puts them at risk of attack . Kids are unpredictable so I do feel this was an oversight .

I do think the RMPC are trying to figure out if the kids returned home on the 1st of May

 

[FansBlowing]

If the children did not return home that night after being seen in New Glasgow, then where could they be? Did DM and Malehya even return home that night? What kind of accident could have happened to two children while they were either in a car or at a remote location?

 

[FansBlowing]

Could they have locked the children in the car while they ran some errand? I don't think it was hot outside, but how long would it take for the air to run out and they suffocate? Or if the car was running with the heat on, perhaps carbon monoxide poisoning?

 

[MistyWaters]

N.S. works to expand cell coverage, stop gaps in community where 2 kids disappeared - Halifax | Globalnews.ca

Most recently, service gaps were identified in the area of Lansdowne Station in Pictou County where two children have been missing for a month.

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The government has faced pressure in recent years around the lack of cell coverage in rural communities during emergencies.

 

[su5ie]

Could they have locked the children in the car while they ran some errand? I don't think it was hot outside, but how long would it take for the air to run out and they suffocate? Or if the car was running with the heat on, perhaps carbon monoxide poisoning?

This is a very good point and I would not have thought of a silent killer like carbon monoxide poisoning. Even in the home . People living in the same household may not succumb as they are in a more ventilated area of the house .

I wonder what type of cooker was in the home could the kids have turned it on without lighting and became overcome with fumes .

I understand people will say parents would call emergency services but what if DM panicked.

It just another alternative seen as no sign of the children have been spotted anywhere else

 

[AddyFinch]

Today’s line of thought ( it changes by the day)…taking into consideration, mother and step father are estranged, and he is meeting the public(in a manner), I would expect the mother to appoint a rep/lawyer/media person to read a statement of thanks to Emerg persons/1st responders on her behalf. A lawyer could draft it, short and sweet. The silence while understanding her grief, is appearing in a negative light.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Today’s line of thought ( it changes by the day)…taking into consideration, mother and step father are estranged, and he is meeting the public(in a manner), I would expect the mother to appoint a rep/lawyer/media person to read a statement of thanks to Emerg persons/1st responders on her behalf. A lawyer could draft it, short and sweet. The silence while understanding her grief, is appearing in a negative light.

I genuinely don't understand why anyone expects anything of this mother.
Her kids are missing & she's tucked herself into the safety of her family, as far as we know.
Nothing about that appears as a negative to me, it appears as perfectly, heartbreakingly normal, given the situation.

 

[AddyFinch]

I genuinely don't understand why anyone expects anything of this mother.
Her kids are missing & she's tucked herself into the safety of her family, as far as we know.
Nothing about that appears as a negative to me, it appears as perfectly, heartbreakingly normal, given the situation.

I feel despite your grief as difficult as it may be, she owes a debt of gratitude to those that have come to her two children’s hour of need. If not for herself then for two children. By not being thankful it not only sheds her in bad light that could be perceived as “somethings not right here”. I believe most people would be openly thankful. We are all different folks, but I know I would put on my big girl pants and be strong for my kids, including media, posters, flyers, tv, mall, searching everywhere til my end days.

 

[Sarahlou]

I feel despite your grief as difficult as it may be, she owes a debt of gratitude to those that have come to her two children’s hour of need. If not for herself then for two children. By not being thankful it not only sheds her in bad light that could be perceived as “somethings not right here”. I believe most people would be openly thankful. We are all different folks, but I know I would put on my big girl pants and be strong for my kids, including media, posters, flyers, tv, mall, searching everywhere til my end days.

It definitely seems unusual not to hear anything but she might not be in any fit state mentally to do any of that. We just don't know.