CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

[AddyFinch]

I beg to differ as reported here May 10 CTV per quote by RCMP “There’s no information to suggest they were abducted,” said RCMP Cpl. Sally Rice on Saturday. “Based on what we know, it appears they wandered off. The search will continue until we receive any new evidence that changes our direction.”
I am aware the an Amber Alert was not issued and I aware of the requirements for issuing one, although two vulnerable persons alerts were issued. And yes, I am fully aware of all of the police departments in Canada from coast to coast. In my reference to the TPS and the Sherman murders, it was regarding their initial statement of it being murder/suicide, which was widely disputed in the community and policing communities, and they were very wrong. Jumping to a conclusion before all the facts are in, is a dangerous practice. Hopefully the Pictou Detachment of the RCMP are investigating all avenues, of which they have stated.

 

[AddyFinch]

Might not be related, but could be of interest Child Luring Nova Scotia June 2025
and another Child approached March 2025
and another Attempted abduction December 2024
and another Attempted 2022
and another Attempted 2021
And another, he was Found in Nova Scotia June 5, 2025

and another June 2025 in Canning

 

[Snoop Sister]

There is an update/summary on fb from the RCMP in Nova Scotia. I can’t seem to copy it here. It gives a good summary of the situation to date. If someone could post the RCMP report?

 

[MistyWaters]

Here:

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

The Nova Scotia RCMP’s intensive approach to the missing persons investigation into the disappearance of Lilly and Jack Sullivan continues.

More than 11 Nova Scotia RCMP units are working on the missing persons investigation, some of which include the Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit, Pictou County District RCMP, Digital Forensic Services, Truth Verification Section, Legal Application Support Team, Police Dog Services, Underwater Recovery Team, Behavioural Sciences Group, and the Criminal Analysis Service.

They are joined in their investigational efforts by the National Centre of Missing Persons, Canadian Centre for Child Protection, and provincial and municipal police agencies from Nova Scotia and other parts of Canada.

“The investigation is being led by a tenacious, committed group of investigators who are gathering and assessing information daily to learn more about the circumstances of Lilly and Jack’s disappearance so we can find them,” says S/Sgt. Rob McCamon, Officer in Charge (acting), Major Crime and Behavioural Sciences. “All scenarios are being considered, and we’ve engaged every tool and resource at our disposal.”

The Nova Scotia RCMP would like to thank the public for all of the tips, information and video footage that has been provided since Lilly and Jack went missing.

With this support, investigators have:
• Collected hundreds of hours of video from the areas surrounding Lansdowne Station, including footage taken from along Gairloch Rd. between 12:00 p.m. on April 28 and 12:00 p.m. on May 2, which was the subject of a public appeal from the investigative team on May 28
• Formally interviewed 54 people, which has included the administration of polygraph to some of the individuals interviewed
• Received 488 tips, many of which have been assessed and followed up on
• Extensively searched the property from which the children went missing, including every aspect of the home, grounds, outbuildings and nearby septic systems, wells, mineshafts and culverts
• Been granted numerous judicial authorizations to seize and examine materials and devices that may provide information useful to the investigation

“We’re accessing, evaluating and analyzing a significant volume of information from a variety of sources. We have a very coordinated and deliberate approach to make certain all information is meticulously scrutinized, prioritized and actioned to ensure nothing is missed,” says Cpl. Sandy Matharu, investigation lead, Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit. “We’re committed to doing what is necessary to locate Lilly and Jack and advance the investigation, which may take longer than we all hoped.”

The information gathered thus far through the investigation, including the ground search and rescue efforts, has not identified new search areas.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lilly and Jack is asked to call the Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit at 902-896-5060. To remain anonymous, contact Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

 

[mysteryseeker]

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

Media in Halifax. Newest release.

 

[FansBlowing]

"Truth Verification Section." This must be the department in charge of polygraphs.

 

[Dreamcherry]

Yes, I do. She didn't call the police though, she called 911. 911 is commonly used when there is an accident and people need medical help. I think these kids died in an accidental way, but the family is covering it up to protect either themselves or someone else in the family.

I wouldn't analyse the 911 call that deeply. The average person just thinks 911 = Emergency and will call that number for everything. It doesn't seem to be common knowledge around here that you should call the RCMP detachment directly for these things, judging by the amount of times I've had to tell new staff to NOT call 911 to file a missing persons report or because someone's bike got stolen, lol.

 

[musicaljoke]

I wouldn't analyse the 911 call that deeply. The average person just thinks 911 = Emergency and will call that number for everything. It doesn't seem to be common knowledge around here that you should call the RCMP detachment directly for these things, judging by the amount of times I've had to tell new staff to NOT call 911 to file a missing persons report or because someone's bike got stolen, lol.

They would be criticized if they didn't call 911, and folks would claim they acted like it wasn't an urgent matter. If children are missing with miles of bush around them, I would call 911. It would indeed be an emergency. Yes, a stolen bike is a different matter. For that I would search for the police phone number.

911 emergency: when to call

Call 911 if your health, safety or property is threatened and you need help right away.

beta.novascotia.ca

 

[Snoop Sister]

Interesting. It appears DM was not the only one polygraphed.

“Formally interviewed 54 people, which has included the administration of polygraph to some of the individuals interviewed”

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

 

[Alice Ramnit]

"Eleven RCMP units are working on the investigation, including Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime, Pictou District RCMP, Digital Forensic Services, the Truth Verification Section, the legal application support team, police dog services, an underwater recovery team, the behavioural sciences group and the Criminal Analysis Service."

Staggering stats: The sizable investigation searching for Jack and Lilly

Eleven RCMP units are working on the investigation, including Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime, Pictou District RCMP, Digital Forensix

www.saltwire.com

 

[Snoop Sister]

So search and seizure warrants were granted. This was questioned and discussed in previous posts as to whether RCMP had obtained warrants.

“Been granted numerous judicial authorizations to seize and examine materials and devices that may provide information useful to the investigation”

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

 

[Sarahlou]

So search and seizure warrants were granted. This was questioned and discussed in previous posts as to whether RCMP had obtained warrants.

“Been granted numerous judicial authorizations to seize and examine materials and devices that may provide information useful to the investigation”

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

It would have been bizarre if they hadn't done this IMO.
It sounds like they've been thorough, which is good.

 

[tlcya]

https://www.facebook.com/rcmpns/posts/pfbid033wHhCVqDmkKtws4jRyriDhrm1p3QMfsddQ8omhRDxKE3EYpVxdCjC56pG3xTUL9hl

I see ya'll have the latest update. So now we have confirmation that polys have indeed been performed. This would appear to validate DM's claim of having taken one.

 

[su5ie]

Here:

https://waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca/90835-2

The Nova Scotia RCMP’s intensive approach to the missing persons investigation into the disappearance of Lilly and Jack Sullivan continues.

More than 11 Nova Scotia RCMP units are working on the missing persons investigation, some of which include the Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit, Pictou County District RCMP, Digital Forensic Services, Truth Verification Section, Legal Application Support Team, Police Dog Services, Underwater Recovery Team, Behavioural Sciences Group, and the Criminal Analysis Service.

They are joined in their investigational efforts by the National Centre of Missing Persons, Canadian Centre for Child Protection, and provincial and municipal police agencies from Nova Scotia and other parts of Canada.

“The investigation is being led by a tenacious, committed group of investigators who are gathering and assessing information daily to learn more about the circumstances of Lilly and Jack’s disappearance so we can find them,” says S/Sgt. Rob McCamon, Officer in Charge (acting), Major Crime and Behavioural Sciences. “All scenarios are being considered, and we’ve engaged every tool and resource at our disposal.”

The Nova Scotia RCMP would like to thank the public for all of the tips, information and video footage that has been provided since Lilly and Jack went missing.

With this support, investigators have:
• Collected hundreds of hours of video from the areas surrounding Lansdowne Station, including footage taken from along Gairloch Rd. between 12:00 p.m. on April 28 and 12:00 p.m. on May 2, which was the subject of a public appeal from the investigative team on May 28
• Formally interviewed 54 people, which has included the administration of polygraph to some of the individuals interviewed
• Received 488 tips, many of which have been assessed and followed up on
• Extensively searched the property from which the children went missing, including every aspect of the home, grounds, outbuildings and nearby septic systems, wells, mineshafts and culverts
• Been granted numerous judicial authorizations to seize and examine materials and devices that may provide information useful to the investigation

“We’re accessing, evaluating and analyzing a significant volume of information from a variety of sources. We have a very coordinated and deliberate approach to make certain all information is meticulously scrutinized, prioritized and actioned to ensure nothing is missed,” says Cpl. Sandy Matharu, investigation lead, Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit. “We’re committed to doing what is necessary to locate Lilly and Jack and advance the investigation, which may take longer than we all hoped.”

The information gathered thus far through the investigation, including the ground search and rescue efforts, has not identified new search areas.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lilly and Jack is asked to call the Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime Unit at 902-896-5060. To remain anonymous, contact Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

This reads like a list of answers to all of our questions, wonder has someone been snooping on our posts


jokes aside This inspires alot of confidence for me knowing that nothing is being left to chance and in fairness the RMPC are being meticulous in their efforts. And it would certainly appear that no scenario has been left off the table

Please god it is revealed as to what has happened and the children are found

Thank you for posting

 

[tlcya]

• Extensively searched the property from which the children went missing, including every aspect of the home, grounds, outbuildings and nearby septic systems, wells, mineshafts and culverts
• Been granted numerous judicial authorizations to seize and examine materials and devices that may provide information useful to the investigation

from the waterfrontmedia link provided by @MistyWaters above.

Many of us knew this had happened but tit is nice to see it confirmed by LE. Every inch of that property was searched. Inside, outside, all of it. That horse is beyond dead with that confirmation.

 

[MistyWaters]

"Eleven RCMP units are working on the investigation, including Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime, Pictou District RCMP, Digital Forensic Services, the Truth Verification Section, the legal application support team, police dog services, an underwater recovery team, the behavioural sciences group and the Criminal Analysis Service."

Staggering stats: The sizable investigation searching for Jack and Lilly

Eleven RCMP units are working on the investigation, including Northeast Nova RCMP Major Crime, Pictou District RCMP, Digital Forensix

www.saltwire.com

This reaffirms the high degree of specialized support available to the RCMP during an ongoing investigation, no reason at all to question their professionalism.

 

[MistyWaters]

'All scenarios are being considered,' RCMP say 5 weeks after N.S. siblings disappeared

A member of the RCMP's major crime unit says it's taking "longer than we hoped" to advance the investigation into two missing Nova Scotia children who vanished from a rural community more than five weeks ago.In a news release Wednesday, RCMP provided an update into the case, detailing the...

ca.news.yahoo.com

In a news conference on Wednesday afternoon, Cpl. Guillaume Tremblay was asked whether abduction is being considered, since police initially said there was no evidence the siblings had been taken when they were first reported missing.

Tremblay responded that "every missing persons case is considered suspicious," and he did not address the possibility of an abduction.

 

[Dreamcherry]

They would be criticized if they didn't call 911, and folks would claim they acted like it wasn't an urgent matter. If children are missing with miles of bush around them, I would call 911. It would indeed be an emergency. Yes, a stolen bike is a different matter. For that I would search for the police phone number.

911 emergency: when to call

Call 911 if your health, safety or property is threatened and you need help right away.

beta.novascotia.ca

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to make it seem that it wasn't an emergency and it wasn't urgent, it absolutely is! Genuinely wasn't the point I was trying to make, apologies!

In this situation, you should actually call the RCMP directly vs. 911 because it's a missing person and they are the appropriate channel for that, which is why I mentioned missing persons reports in my example. I was just stating that not many people are aware of this.

 

[musicaljoke]

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to make it seem that it wasn't an emergency and it wasn't urgent, it absolutely is! Genuinely wasn't the point I was trying to make, apologies!

In this situation, you should actually call the RCMP directly vs. 911 because it's a missing person and they are the appropriate channel for that, which is why I mentioned missing persons reports in my example. I was just stating that not many people are aware of this.

I'm afraid that I do not agree with you. When children are gone from sight, it is an emergency. Calling the police missing persons line could send you into a telephone tree where someone will call you back ... eventually.

 

[justice2962]

N.S. missing kids: RCMP say search for Lilly and Jack ‘may take longer’ than hoped | Globalnews.ca

RCMP also say the National Centre of Missing Persons and Canadian Centre for Child Protection have joined the investigation into the disappearance of Lilly and Jack Sullivan.

globalnews.ca

RCMP also revealed that so far, they’ve received hundreds of hours of video from the areas around Lansdowne Station. This includes footage taken from Gairloch Road between noon on April 28 and noon on May 2.

It seems like the RCMP got the video footage the last asked for