CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

[AddyFinch]

Ok I’m confused… how did I not see this Cabin. I must have missed this article.
They built two cabins in the woods?? Eh… what kid wouldn’t try to go to them for fun? How far into the woods and what type of cabins? They live in a trailer and go to bush cabins on same property for what reason? They are already living a bit rustic in an isolated area, so they go to rough it or for solitude? Maybe it’s a trappers lodge? Or to commune with nature?
Lesson learned to always go back and read articles posted.
So they took them to those cabins for whatever reason, maybe the kids thought since spring is here we can up there now? And off they went, and got lost enroute. I think the bush needs to be reworked.
Are there hunters in area?

 

[MistyWaters]

Will try this again with documented news. Ctv
malehya stated “we always make sure we’re out there with them”…….
“They were outside playing, but we weren’t aware of the time”… why did they choose to let them play outside this time???

According to her, they didn’t choose to let them play outside because they weren’t aware the children were out there. In other words, their negligence wasn’t intentional. I don’t think the statement is the key to anything more than it’s obviously self-serving toward her and for the benefit of the general public. What she told the RCMP no doubt is much more detailed.
JMO

 

[iveyguy]

I would hope that the police already checked for any kind of blood evidence using a chemical test.

I would bet they have not. It's currently being treated as a missing persons investigation, not a criminal investigation. I think LE has thoroughly searched the property as they would in a missing persons case: they've looked everywhere and dogs have smelled everywhere for evidence. But LE has not treated the property as a crime scene (yet?), so I have doubts that any forensic investigation can be done on the property. I suspect this will be a newsworthy event if it happens -- the property would be surrounded by police tape and swarming with LE. CBC would send a reporter to get a picture of this, guaranteed.

 

[su5ie]

Will try this again with documented news. Ctv
malehya stated “we always make sure we’re out there with them”…….
“They were outside playing, but we weren’t aware of the time”… why did they choose to let them play outside this time???

This is the sentence that bothers me the most from everything that has been said by Maleyha and Daniel.

Maybe I'm nitpicking. But I've read it and listened to it a few times . If they weren't aware they were playing outside and the sliding door is silent, how does she know someone didn't come into the home and take them ? What makes the mom so sure lilly and jack were playing outside . Did DMs mum BG see them in the yard or did someone else verify that the kids actually went outside ? Did they always sleep with the door unlocked ? Did lilly and jack ever go outside without an adult if they were always supervised when outdoors ? I know there is always a first time for everything. But it is strange for Maleyha to speculate that they were outside playing if she or Daniel honestly didn't hear them go outside. Guessing doesn't find her kids , I understand her logic , if the kids aren't in the home , they must have went outside . But why not say someone possibly took my kids. Or my kids are gone I can't find them .

Outside playing insinuates that the kids were running around the yard or playing with toys in the garden for a period of time .

Choice of words differ in different circumstances but imo it points to either the kids regularly went out without asking permission and they usually were found to be just playing or Maleyha in her guilt is trying to make it sound for cps that she is a good mother and perfect parent . When rarely none of us are .

 

[FansBlowing]

Here is a pic from earlier in the thread. It looks like that chicken coop does not connect to that separate fenced in area off the RV. Cats would jump over it, so that area must be for Daniel's mother's dog.

 

[su5ie]

I would think so too. However, in this hypothetical of a dog attack, it might be more likely to occur outside. Would LE use lumenol on the whole property?
IMHO

I personally don't think the property has been searched forensically. The home very rarely is in missing persons cases unless its upgraded to suspected homicide . Even where kids are concerned.

Mum states they wandered off so at the moment that's what RMPC act on . I imagine they did a look around the property and possibly at a quick look around the home but I highly doubt it was an invasive search the type that is done under a warrant . That's just my opinion

 

[su5ie]

Here is a pic from earlier in the thread. It looks like that chicken coop does not connect to that separate fenced in area off the RV. Cats would jump over it, so that area must be for Daniel's mother's dog.

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There is literally umpteen places them kids could have gotten in to difficulties on that property . I genuinely believe they are in very close proximity to home

 

[su5ie]

Ok I’m confused… how did I not see this Cabin. I must have missed this article.
They built two cabins in the woods?? Eh… what kid wouldn’t try to go to them for fun? How far into the woods and what type of cabins? They live in a trailer and go to bush cabins on same property for what reason? They are already living a bit rustic in an isolated area, so they go to rough it or for solitude? Maybe it’s a trappers lodge? Or to commune with nature?
Lesson learned to always go back and read articles posted.
So they took them to those cabins for whatever reason, maybe the kids thought since spring is here we can up there now? And off they went, and got lost enroute. I think the bush needs to be reworked.
Are there hunters in area?

Very interesting article, thank you for posting. It gives more clarity on the events of that morning.

 

[AddyFinch]

According to her, they didn’t choose to let them play outside because they weren’t aware the children were out there. In other words, their negligence wasn’t intentional. I don’t think the statement is the key to anything more than it’s obviously self-serving toward her and for the benefit of the general public. What she told the RCMP no doubt is much more detailed.
JMO

That I understood but it’s contradictory….ie they got out there on their own, yet she states “which we don’t let them do”, but yet they left them out there?.??
The other thing I don’t get… all objective but, why don’t they let a 6&4 year old play in a fenced backyard without parents?? They don’t strike me as helicopter parents. Is there a specific reason, or a real or presumed fear? Eyes from both trailers would be on those kids all the time. A dog would alert strangers ( or in my darn case,,,everyonebreathing)

 

[Ontario Mom]

Will try this again with documented news. Ctv
malehya stated “we always make sure we’re out there with them”…….
“They were outside playing, but we weren’t aware of the time”… why did they choose to let them play outside this time???

What you've quoted here is not exactly what the mother said in the article. Here's the exact quote:

"We always make sure that we’re out there with them, watching them, and they happen to just get out that sliding door, and we can’t hear it when it opens, and they were outside playing, but we weren’t aware of it at the time, and the next thing we knew it was quiet,” said Brooks-Murray."

I believe what she was attempting to convey was her assumption that without her or DM's permission or knowledge, the kids opened the slider & went outside to play - then just disappeared.

 

[AddyFinch]

Yes, I did see the quote correct, but my point was they didn't allow them out alone, but were aware that am they were out there, but didn't go out, or bring them in when they became aware of them outside. Sounds to me like they fell asleep or something else, when she says "the next thing we knew it was quiet.
If they didn't allow the kids outside alone, why didn't they go out and get them or call them in? Hind sight of course, but I find the comments here and in an unapproved video to be conflicting. One interpretation could reveal that they didn't bother to get them inside, therefore culpability, possibly proving neglect.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Yes, I did see the quote correct, but my point was they didn't allow them out alone, but were aware that am they were out there, but didn't go out, or bring them in when they became aware of them outside. Sounds to me like they fell asleep or something else, when she says "the next thing we knew it was quiet.
If they didn't allow the kids outside alone, why didn't they go out and get them or call them in? Hind sight of course, but I find the comments here and in an unapproved video to be conflicting. One interpretation could reveal that they didn't bother to get them inside, therefore culpability, possibly proving neglect.

I don't think they were aware of it at all, I think they merely assumed that's what happened since they weren't in the house.

 

[musicaljoke]

Yes, I did see the quote correct, but my point was they didn't allow them out alone, but were aware that am they were out there, but didn't go out, or bring them in when they became aware of them outside. Sounds to me like they fell asleep or something else, when she says "the next thing we knew it was quiet.
If they didn't allow the kids outside alone, why didn't they go out and get them or call them in? Hind sight of course, but I find the comments here and in an unapproved video to be conflicting. One interpretation could reveal that they didn't bother to get them inside, therefore culpability, possibly proving neglect.

The parents weren't aware that the kids had gone outside until suddenly it was quiet. That was the alert that something was wrong, they got up, found them missing and one called the police while the other began searching. There wasn't a period in which they were aware that the kids were playing outside and the parents left the kids out there alone.

 

[su5ie]

What you've quoted here is not exactly what the mother said in the article. Here's the exact quote:

"We always make sure that we’re out there with them, watching them, and they happen to just get out that sliding door, and we can’t hear it when it opens, and they were outside playing, but we weren’t aware of it at the time, and the next thing we knew it was quiet,” said Brooks-Murray."

I believe what she was attempting to convey was her assumption that without her or DM's permission or knowledge, the kids opened the slider & went outside to play - then just disappeared.

This is the sentence that bothers me the most from everything that has been said by Maleyha and Daniel.

Maybe I'm nitpicking. But I've read it and listened to it a few times . If they weren't aware they were playing outside and the sliding door is silent, how does she know someone didn't come into the home and take them ? What makes the mom so sure lilly and jack were playing outside . Did DMs mum BG see them in the yard or did someone else verify that the kids actually went outside ? Did they always sleep with the door unlocked ? Did lilly and jack ever go outside without an adult if they were always supervised when outdoors ? I know there is always a first time for everything. But it is strange for Maleyha to speculate that they were outside playing if she or Daniel honestly didn't hear them go outside. Guessing doesn't find her kids , I understand her logic , if the kids aren't in the home , they must have went outside . But why not say someone possibly took my kids. Or my kids are gone I can't find them .

Outside playing insinuates that the kids were running around the yard or playing with toys in the garden for a period of time .

Choice of words differ in different circumstances but imo it points to either the kids regularly went out without asking permission and they usually were found to be just playing or Maleyha in her guilt is trying to make it sound for cps that she is a good mother and perfect parent . When rarely none of us are .

My point was why assume that they went out to play in the yard if they never did . Daniel also states they never closed the door behind them which contradicts what Maleyha states that they never went out alone so why didn't an adult just close over the door instead of Daniel repeatedly reprimanding them to do so .

Maybe someone else opened the sliding door and enticed them out and then closed the door shut . Obviously this would be someone with an awareness of the door being quiet

Daniel reveals a lot about family dynamics if you look at what he is saying more closely

Daniel also states in that article that he told the kids to be quiet as the baby the parents needed her sleep and that they try get the baby to sleep as much as they can . Did they also like all the kids to sleep as much as possible and prehaps gave them legal or illegal medicines to aid that sleep . Melatonin is sometimes prescribed to children with autism to aid sleep but maximum dosage here for an older child is 10ml don't know what it is in Canada. Did they give them too much ?

 

[su5ie]

The parents weren't aware that the kids had gone outside until suddenly it was quiet. That was the alert that something was wrong, they got up, found them missing and one called the police while the other began searching. There wasn't a period in which they were aware that the kids were playing outside and the parents left the kids out there alone.

But Daniel told them to be quiet so the baby could sleep again contradictory

 

[su5ie]

Does anyone think Maleyha called the police very quickly . Daniel hadn't even returned from searching?

 

[AddyFinch]

Might not be related, but could be of interest Child Luring Nova Scotia June 2025
and another Child approached March 2025
and another Attempted abduction December 2024
and another Attempted 2022
and another Attempted 2021
And another, he was Found in Nova Scotia June 5, 2025

I am definitely rethinking abduction. Something is going on in that province, and by the looks of it, could be for quite awhile. Is it coincidental ? Could be, but all avenues should be examined, and my guess is RCMP and local PD have way more info than newsfeed. Would love to know if any of them have any connection, or are they all just a crime of opportunity???

 

[FansBlowing]

Does anyone think Maleyha called the police very quickly . Daniel hadn't even returned from searching?

Yes, I do. She didn't call the police though, she called 911. 911 is commonly used when there is an accident and people need medical help. I think these kids died in an accidental way, but the family is covering it up to protect either themselves or someone else in the family.

 

[Ontario Mom]

My point was why assume that they went out to play in the yard if they never did .

RSBM

Because they weren't in the house. It's a logical conclusion to assume, as she did, that they may have gone outside to play.

 

[AddyFinch]

Yes, I do. She didn't call the police though, she called 911. 911 is commonly used when there is an accident and people need medical help. I think these kids died in an accidental way, but the family is covering it up to protect either themselves or someone else in the family.

Could be cover for their illegal activity if any. 911 is how we get the police up here.
"911, would you like Police, Fire or Ambulance"?.... sorry, an operator's voice and blurb from a lifetime ago..... LOL.