CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

This reads like a list of answers to all of our questions, wonder has someone been snooping on our posts
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jokes aside This inspires alot of confidence for me knowing that nothing is being left to chance and in fairness the RMPC are being meticulous in their efforts. And it would certainly appear that no scenario has been left off the table

Please god it is revealed as to what has happened and the children are found

Thank you for posting

Some of the information in this latest press release might be in response to ā€˜tips’ received by the RCMP. In the true sense of the word people sometimes misinterpret asking for ā€˜tips’ is requesting ways to help solve the case as in crowdsourcing… ie where and what to search, etc.
 
In this situation, you should actually call the RCMP directly vs. 911 because it's a missing person and they are the appropriate channel for that, which is why I mentioned missing persons reports in my example. I was just stating that not many people are aware of this.
I grew up in a Canadian city in the 70's and 80's and it was drilled into our heads ad nauseam at school and after school clubs and by parents: (1) if there's an emergency, phone 911. (2) Police / Fire /Ambulance - phone 911. In fact, so well-drilled that 911 is the first thing I think of in an emergency, even though I live on another continent and it's not applicable anymore. So I'm really surprised to think there could be confusion on what emergency number to phone.

Is it different in rural areas, where only the RCMP is policing, so no City Police force? I would have hoped that phoning 911 in a rural area would put you in touch immediately with RCMP. Wouldn't makes sense to not have 911 covered. MOO
 
I grew up in a Canadian city in the 70's and 80's and it was drilled into our heads ad nauseam at school and after school clubs and by parents: (1) if there's an emergency, phone 911. (2) Police / Fire /Ambulance - phone 911. In fact, so well-drilled that 911 is the first thing I think of in an emergency, even though I live on another continent and it's not applicable anymore. So I'm really surprised to think there could be confusion on what emergency number to phone.

Is it different in rural areas, where only the RCMP is policing, so no City Police force? I would have hoped that phoning 911 in a rural area would put you in touch immediately with RCMP. Wouldn't makes sense to not have 911 covered. MOO

I agree, 911 is who most Canadians would call in an emergency. I think it would depend on the situation. A 4 and 6 year suddenly nowhere to be found, that’s an emergency as they can’t survive on their own IMO. A 28 year old sibling who hasn’t been in contact for a couple of months so needing to file a missing persons report, that’s not an emergency and probably a call that could be placed with the local PD.
JMO
 
A 28 year old sibling who hasn’t been in contact for a couple of months so needing to file a missing persons report, that’s not an emergency and probably a call that could be placed with the local PD.
Yes, of course. But that's obviously not the case with Jack and Lilly.

In fact I read on some Canadian police or RCMP page that when notifying of a missing person, if the person is under 12 or elderly, then it's an emergeny, you phone Emergency!
MOO
 
I'm afraid that I do not agree with you. When children are gone from sight, it is an emergency. Calling the police missing persons line could send you into a telephone tree where someone will call you back ... eventually.
I also said it was an emergency? Calling 911 is just going to get you transferred to the RCMP, you end up in the same place, you've just done extra steps to get there. 911 won't dispatch anyone to you any quicker, you're going to go through the same protocol in the end. I've had to declare a lot of people missing, and they've always sent someone right away, and these were adults, not children. If there are vulnerable people involved, they move quickly.
 
I grew up in a Canadian city in the 70's and 80's and it was drilled into our heads ad nauseam at school and after school clubs and by parents: (1) if there's an emergency, phone 911. (2) Police / Fire /Ambulance - phone 911. In fact, so well-drilled that 911 is the first thing I think of in an emergency, even though I live on another continent and it's not applicable anymore. So I'm really surprised to think there could be confusion on what emergency number to phone.

Is it different in rural areas, where only the RCMP is policing, so no City Police force? I would have hoped that phoning 911 in a rural area would put you in touch immediately with RCMP. Wouldn't makes sense to not have 911 covered. MOO
Calling 911 puts you in touch with a dispatch centre. They will however transfer you to the RCMP if you need their services.
 
I still don't know what I think happened. I continually remind myself not to expect these parents to react the way I would...or think I would. I live in a remote area of Northern Vermont on the Canadian border. My town is very small, many here are hardworking but impoverished without much education, maybe not even a high school education. My husband and I are highly educated, well traveled and chose to live in this particular town because it's in one of the most beautiful places we've ever been.

I know plenty of people like this family, and am friends with many of them. Do you think DM and MBM don't know what you think when you see where they live and their life circumstances? It can be overwhelming to suddenly be the focus of international attention. Your kids are missing. Everyone's looking at you. You're a mixed family, kids from different relationships. You know people are giving you the cross-eye. So you overcompensate with too many details...or you hide from public view. You use the wrong words. You can't cry anymore, even though people expect you to. How do you wake up every day and do it all over again?

What if the kids really did slip out the door and are lost in those woods? What if the creepy resident, or one of many creepy residents in town, took your kids? What if people start wondering about grandma, who just wasn't home, maybe she was at work or grocery shopping? What if it was someone who had watched your kids get off the bus every day? What if your mind is spinning as much as everyone else's?

Until authorities tell me these parents are responsible for the disappearance, I will continue to give them grace. And from what we know, authorities just don't know, any more than I do, you do, we do.
 
April 28 - May 2, All weekdays, Monday to Friday timeline. People going to work or coming home. Regular commuters including mail parcel delivery, cable hookup, internet / telephone repair, school bus, municipal employees. I wonder if there were any anomalies I.e., power or construction issues along Gairloch Rd that week?
 

RCMP also revealed that so far, they’ve received hundreds of hours of video from the areas around Lansdowne Station. This includes footage taken from Gairloch Road between noon on April 28 and noon on May 2.

It seems like the RCMP got the video footage the last asked for
I hope this is helpful. In this day and age, we don’t always remember, there are cameras everywhere. The right video footage could show someone in the area, whether potential witnesses or perpetrators.
 
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It's too late for me to edit all my posts in this thread . So I just want to leave an apology here for my spelling error re the jumbled up lettering of RCMP .

No disrespect or offence was meant and it will be corrected going forward
You are so sweet! I am pretty sure no apologies are needed. Everyone likely knew what you mesnt.
 
In my country of Ireland not much legal weight is afforded to polygraph tests . As the results can be a askewed How important are they when submitting evidence in a Canadian court of law ?
Not much, and not usually admissible in court, but rather used as a tool for LE working cases. Some companies (esp high level security) also use them during hiring process.
 
This article is behind a paywall but new info is: They were in New Glasgow getting groceries. They spent that night at home and Daniel worked on the fence at the back of the property. His mother owns the mobile home, but resides in the camper. Malehya marked the children absent from school at 6:17 am and four hour later she made the call to 911. They discuss copper mines in the area and Alex Penney whose body was not discovered for 19 years.

 
"John William Alexander Penney. Nineteen years after he disappeared, Alex Penney’s remains were found in an abandoned copper mine in Pictou County.

Penney’s remains, which were identified through DNA analysis, were removed by an RCMP extraction team in September 2002 after being discovered by local amateur mineral explorers inside the old copper mine, located on private property a short distance off the New Lairg Road near Gairloch.

The remains were located about 15 metres (50 ft.) inside the mine and down a vertical shaft approximately nine metres (30 ft.) to 15 m deep."

 
Chris Lewis, CTV’s policing expert and a former polygraph examiner for the Ontario Provincial Police, says it’s significant the RCMP has administered polygraph tests.


ā€œYou don’t do polygraph tests and waste that resource on people that maybe just saw something or heard something or is a real remote suspect. That’s not the way it works,ā€ Lewis told CTV News.

ā€œIf they are doing polygraph tests and examinations on people, those are people they suspect might be involved in some way or for whatever reason aren’t being honest.ā€


Something has to be up, this doesn’t seem to be just a case of children wandering off. I would love to give MBM and DM the benefit of doubt but all that’s going on seems extreme to me
 
I still don't know what I think happened. I continually remind myself not to expect these parents to react the way I would...or think I would. I live in a remote area of Northern Vermont on the Canadian border. My town is very small, many here are hardworking but impoverished without much education, maybe not even a high school education. My husband and I are highly educated, well traveled and chose to live in this particular town because it's in one of the most beautiful places we've ever been.

I know plenty of people like this family, and am friends with many of them. Do you think DM and MBM don't know what you think when you see where they live and their life circumstances? It can be overwhelming to suddenly be the focus of international attention. Your kids are missing. Everyone's looking at you. You're a mixed family, kids from different relationships. You know people are giving you the cross-eye. So you overcompensate with too many details...or you hide from public view. You use the wrong words. You can't cry anymore, even though people expect you to. How do you wake up every day and do it all over again?

What if the kids really did slip out the door and are lost in those woods? What if the creepy resident, or one of many creepy residents in town, took your kids? What if people start wondering about grandma, who just wasn't home, maybe she was at work or grocery shopping? What if it was someone who had watched your kids get off the bus every day? What if your mind is spinning as much as everyone else's?

Until authorities tell me these parents are responsible for the disappearance, I will continue to give them grace. And from what we know, authorities just don't know, any more than I do, you do, we do.
Awesome. Well said!
 

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