CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[su5ie]

Not that I really want to think about it, but since they lived in the same very small home, and allegedly the blanket was torn/ripped and no longer being used as a blanket (if memory serves, part of it was found in a trash bag), most biological substances (that forensics would need a comparison sample from Martell) found on it could be reasonably explained, if the former blanket was being used as a household rag.

Ugh. I'll just leave it at that.

jmo

Yes hard to determine anything if they lived in the same household could have got on the blanket if blood did from a simple paper cut anything really

I would imagine the RCMP are applying that logic too

Prehaps it's something to do with all three items , the purple material, the sock and the blanket . Idk

 

[Slebby]

I believe DM’s complaints about being branded as guilty are more related to Social media posts, not mainstream media. I personally have no use for garbage on FB or YT.
DM would also help himself out if he opted not to participate on FB or YT discussions of the disappearance.
For the purposes of what we view here for media at WS according to the community rules, DM has not been tried in the media (I’m certainly open to being proven wrong if anyone wants to post articles with a clear case of “trial by media”)
Facts have been presented in MSM. He is free to challenge anything libelous in court.
The facts presented in various articles often cast him in a poor light. A good deal of those facts (admitted drug use, attendance at NA, courses in anger management etc.) have come directly from DM himself.
I personally have formed my opinions of him based on known facts from MSM. That’s not trying and convicting, that’s the formation of informed opinions.
IMHO

 

[Slebby]

Yes hard to determine anything if they lived in the same household could have got on the blanket if blood did from a simple paper cut anything really

I would imagine the RCMP are applying that logic too

Prehaps it's something to do with all three items , the purple material, the sock and the blanket . Idk

Your post remind me of something that has puzzled me and which I hope will be cleared up one day - why did DM state he believed the part of the blanket found in the woods was planted? (The other piece of the same blanket was found in the week old garbage)

Police examining blanket, other items found during search for missing Nova Scotia children

Police declined to say whether they believe the children are still alive, or whether they believe foul play was involved

www.theglobeandmail.com

My question, is it his assertion that this is evidence of foul play? Was he suggesting a kidnapper had planted it? To what end? I would expect a kidnapper to want to leave no trace of the crime. If planted, presumably the intent would be misdirection. But misdirection from what?
I ask this to stimulate discussion.
IMHO

 

[Claroon]

Got so caught up in excitement yesterday couldnt see the wood from the trees

I just had a Reread of this article and I noticed DM said he recently submitted a blood sample for DNA testing.
Something to do with the blanket

What would that be for and why would it only be requested recently?

Of course he would lie about being abusive. Abusers do that. This reminds me of the personality of Pastor John-Paul Miller, Mica Miller case, South Carolina. Some type of personality disorder. That they fought about money, maybe he planned to sell the children. Made sure wife was asleep during the trade-off (speculation).

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[su5ie]

Your post remind me of something that has puzzled me and which I hope will be cleared up one day - why did DM state he believed the part of the blanket found in the woods was planted? (The other piece of the same blanket was found in the week old garbage)

Police examining blanket, other items found during search for missing Nova Scotia children

Police declined to say whether they believe the children are still alive, or whether they believe foul play was involved

www.theglobeandmail.com

My question, is it his assertion that this is evidence of foul play? Was he suggesting a kidnapper had planted it? To what end? I would expect a kidnapper to want to leave no trace of the crime. If planted, presumably the intent would be misdirection. But misdirection from what?
I ask this to stimulate discussion.
IMHO

Yes what would be to gain from planting part of a blanket in a tree ???

 

[303gmf]

While I agree with most of this statement, I think you may be mistaken about defense of either parent in this case.
I'm not defending either of them, I'm simply commenting that it's ironic Martell's statements are actually true, and there's literally not a thing he can do about it.

Folks have opinions whether they're right or wrong, kind or unkind.
When your kids go missing on your watch, it's never a good look.

jmo

8 plus months of excuses and odd defensiveness of all things J & L disappearance is wearing thin
Where are your kids mama is my question?

 

[Ghostwheel]

I wonder, what is DM’s definition of “physical abuse”?

If asked directly, “did you ever block her, or hold her down and take away her phone?”, “did you ever push her?”, what would his answer be?

It’s possible to rationalize away anything short of a punch or kick as “not abuse”.

Just my opinion

Edit to add:
I’m not comfortable calling this a “he said, she said” as women experiencing any form of abuse have been disbelieved for centuries. MBM described this to LE, not the media. She reported it in her 5th interview according to yesterday’s Globe and Mail. This tells me it took her some time to be able to speak to it with LE. Whatever anyone thinks of MBM, it is highly possible she’s a DV victim.
IMHO

My only concern here is that she didn't say anything in the FIRST interview. What if she was coached by someone else to say that to make her look more like a victim so it eventually ended up in a later interview? Because others have not been believed, that doesn't mean everyone should be painted with the "if they said this it must be so" brush, imo. I fall on the "maybe, maybe not" scale unless there is more than just each person stating their side of it, myself. So yes, she could be a DV victim. Or maybe not. Not enough information for me to say yet.

My own thought has always been that there is a good possibility that the kids were tired of being home sick, so Lily grabbed her pack and brother and went down the driveway to wait for the bus. Someone they were familiar with saw them, stopped and said they'd take them to school. Then did not. But that is just a theory.

 

[Orbweaver]

Your post remind me of something that has puzzled me and which I hope will be cleared up one day - why did DM state he believed the part of the blanket found in the woods was planted? (The other piece of the same blanket was found in the week old garbage)

Police examining blanket, other items found during search for missing Nova Scotia children

Police declined to say whether they believe the children are still alive, or whether they believe foul play was involved

www.theglobeandmail.com

My question, is it his assertion that this is evidence of foul play? Was he suggesting a kidnapper had planted it? To what end? I would expect a kidnapper to want to leave no trace of the crime. If planted, presumably the intent would be misdirection. But misdirection from what?
I ask this to stimulate discussion.
IMHO

What do you think the chances are that he’s implying that it was planted by the police? There seems to be a lot of attempts to control all possible narratives on his part. What’s that old saying… Putting the cart before the horses?

 

[BCSleuth]

I just did a deep dive on the blanket. There is lots of info out there on it, much of which cannot be discussed here due to ToS. I have to admit I kind of dismissed it before. It just seemed like a red herring to me. But the more I look into it the stranger it becomes.

So let's review the facts as we know them:

Lilly had a favorite blanket that she didn't want anymore. DM used it to stuff a crack around the door to stop a draft. He didn't need the whole blanket, so he tore off a piece. Later on the weather warmed up so MBM removed the blanket from the door and put it in a trash bag. So it would appear that this is the origin of the piece of blanket. One would assume the piece that was found is the piece that Daniel ripped off.

The incredible part is that somehow that piece of blanket ended up a kilometer down the road, around a corner, 6 feet up in the air, hanging on a tree branch. How? How could it be there if somebody didn't put it there? Why would anybody put it there?

I can think of 3 possibilities...

1. The wind blew it there. Highly unlikely. Sure the wind could blow it down the road but surely it would get hung up well before it was 1 km away. Plus it would not end up 6 feet off the ground. Unless they had a hurricane. (They did not.)

2. A good samaritan found it and put it there so the owner could find it. Again, that seems highly unlikely. A ripped off piece of blanket is obviously trash. Nobody would see it as anything other than trash. One would also hope that if a good samaritan did put it in the tree they would have come forward and said so.

3. Perp put it there. Why would they put it there? As a taunt or to mislead the investigation. Then one also has to wonder: how did they get it? Could Lilly have found it and put it in her backpack? What did DM do with the piece that he ripped off the blanket?

Think about it: this wasn't hanging in a tree somewhere out of sight. It was hanging from a tree right by the side of the road. Where somebody would be sure to see it. Making it look very planted.

In any case, using dashcam videos the RCMP should have been able to establish roughly when the piece appeared, I would hope. This seems like it is definitely related to the case. It didn't just randomly end up in that tree, imho, somebody put it there. And that someone sure seems like it would have been the perp. It does seem like a very strange thing to do, but how else would it have ended up in that tree?

This also, imho, completely eliminates the possibility that the kids were just lost. What? A piece of Lilly's blanket just coincidentally ended up in a tree 1km down the road on the exact same day the kids became lost in the woods? That doesn't seem very likely.

 

[TMich6811]

I just did a deep dive on the blanket. There is lots of info out there on it, much of which cannot be discussed here due to ToS. I have to admit I kind of dismissed it before. It just seemed like a red herring to me. But the more I look into it the stranger it becomes.

So let's review the facts as we know them:

Lilly had a favorite blanket that she didn't want anymore. DM used it to stuff a crack around the door to stop a draft. He didn't need the whole blanket, so he tore off a piece. Later on the weather warmed up so MBM removed the blanket from the door and put it in a trash bag. So it would appear that this is the origin of the piece of blanket. One would assume the piece that was found is the piece that Daniel ripped off.

The incredible part is that somehow that piece of blanket ended up a kilometer down the road, around a corner, 6 feet up in the air, hanging on a tree branch. How? How could it be there if somebody didn't put it there? Why would anybody put it there?

I can think of 3 possibilities...

1. The wind blew it there. Highly unlikely. Sure the wind could blow it down the road but surely it would get hung up well before it was 1 km away. Plus it would not end up 6 feet off the ground. Unless they had a hurricane. (They did not.)

2. A good samaritan found it and put it there so the owner could find it. Again, that seems highly unlikely. A ripped off piece of blanket it obviously trash. Nobody would see it as anything other than trash. One would also hope that if a good samaritan did put it in the tree they would have come forward and said so.

3. Perp put it there. Why would they put it there? As a taunt or to mislead the investigation. Then one also has to wonder: how did they get it? Could Lilly have found it and put it in her backpack? What did DM do with the piece that he ripped off the blanket?

Think about it: this wasn't hanging in a tree somewhere out of sight. It was hanging from a tree right by the side of the road. Where somebody would be sure to see it. Making it look very planted.

In any case, using dashcam videos the RCMP should have been able to establish roughly when the piece appeared, I would hope. This seems like it is definitely related to the case. It didn't just randomly end up in that tree, imho, somebody put it there. And that someone sure seems like it would have been the perp. It does seem like a very strange thing to do, but how else would it have ended up in that tree?

This also, imho, completely eliminates the possibility that the kids were just lost. What? A piece of Lilly's blanket just coincidentally ended up in a tree 1km down the road on the exact same day the kids became lost in the woods? That doesn't seem very likely.

I may be in the minority but the blanket piece means nothing to me. I feel like the area wasn’t the cleanest and it’s not hard to envision trash all over the place in the woods from their trash.

And I’ve been in the same boat since the beginning that something nefarious happened by someone close to home but it’s just trash that got blown around imo

Eta - my yard is quiet cleaner than theirs appears to be and I have a child’s sock in one of my trees

eta again - child is mine. Sock is theirs. No idea how or why

 

[Bigditch]

I may be in the minority but the blanket piece means nothing to me. I feel like the area wasn’t the cleanest and it’s not hard to envision trash all over the place in the woods from their trash.

And I’ve been in the same boat since the beginning that something nefarious happened by someone close to home but it’s just trash that got blown around imo

Eta - my yard is quiet cleaner than theirs appears to be and I have a child’s sock in one of my trees

eta again - child is mine. Sock is theirs. No idea how or why

Do we know if it was a child's sock or an adults?

 

[Bigditch]

Question, if you're standing on the road looking directly down DM driveway, is the pipeline trail on the right or left? And, what direction would the kids travel in to get to school, right or left?

 

[TMich6811]

Do we know if it was a child's sock or an adults?

The sock is at my house

 

[truecrimel]

I have been following this case since the beginning, but I have reserved commenting on it until now. My very first inclination when this case broke was that something nefarious happened to the children. Just a lot of the story of that morning didn’t sit right with me. As time has gone on, there was a brief period where I thought maybe the children had wondered and gotten lost, but my thoughts have remained mostly the same as the beginning.

It seems unlikely to me that both children could vanish without a trace and succumb to the elements. I understand the area is much more difficult terrain for searchers than other areas - but that leads me to believe the kids wondered even less. Why would the children try and traverse through such dense wilderness? And how far could they truly have gone before searchers started calling out for them? Wouldn’t they be getting hungry for breakfast around that time in the morning?

I know a lot of people took issue with MBM for leaving and returning to her family after the fact. However, I always thought maybe she was trying to get away from DM. I didn’t want to say anything, because I didn’t want to victim blame, but DM has rubbed me wrong from the very beginning. Let’s say MBM doesn’t know what happened (or maybe she does) but believes DM could be responsible for whatever happened to the kids - she’s not going to stay in the home with him with another child and risk it. If you look at the situation from the lens of MBM being scared of DM and thinking he could’ve hurt the children, her actions make sense IMO.

All of this is JMO of course.

 

[su5ie]

Question, if you're standing on the road looking directly down DM driveway, is the pipeline trail on the right or left? And, what direction would the kids travel in to get to school, right or left?

Is the pipeline not behind the trailer

 

[Bigditch]

Is the pipeline not behind the trailer

I can't remember. Will go back and look. If it is behind the trailer how close is it?

 

[su5ie]

I can't remember. Will go back and look. If it is behind the trailer how close is it?

I'm not sure enough to state as fact

Prehaps another poster can chime in

 

[Ontario Mom]

8 plus months of excuses and odd defensiveness of all things J & L disappearance is wearing thin
Where are your kids mama is my question?

We all have the same question.

jmo

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Question, if you're standing on the road looking directly down DM driveway, is the pipeline trail on the right or left? And, what direction would the kids travel in to get to school, right or left?

(Google map).

The small pin is the family home. The school bus stopped at their driveway, and from what has been reported the bus travelled in the direction towards Lansdowne Station. The pipeline trail is highlighted in yellow. It’s about 1.2 kms from the home.

 

[Bigditch]

View attachment 637936
(Google map).

The small pin is the family home. The school bus stopped at their driveway, and from what has been reported the bus travelled in the direction towards Lansdowne Station. The pipeline trail is highlighted in yellow. It’s about 1.2 kms from the home.

Thank you, Lexiintoronto. Much appreciated.