CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

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Many people are hesitant to admit to struggling financially in general, but especially to people who they believe (whether correctly or not) are trying to take their kids away

Canada has various ‘emergency funding’ programs which social works can assist in accessing. So if children are not properly clothed for cold weather, once CPS is involved a parent admitting that finances are the issue would prevent their kids from being taken away, rather than the other alternative of negligent parenting.

JMO I doubt there’d be hesitancy to admit to struggling financially. How could it not with DM working only one day a week to support a family of five in rural NS? The social worker would be totally incompetent to not view that as a possible issue, CCB or not.
 
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So i am a little bit late to this thread but has there been any forward progress at all whatsoever regarding the kids finally being found?

i certainly hope so.
 
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So i am a little bit late to this thread but has there been any forward progress at all whatsoever regarding the kids finally being found?

i certainly hope so.

Not to our knowledge. If they were lost in the forest and there is any hope of finding them, then there would need to be another search organized once the snow melts and before the undergrowth sets out new leaves. That would be somewhere between mid April and early May. I'm not certain if any such searches are planned.
 
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So i am a little bit late to this thread but has there been any forward progress at all whatsoever regarding the kids finally being found?

i certainly hope so.

Welcome to Websleuths, @NSCCC.173.KAAYO.TX.PTY.PH !

Law enforcement (LE) is rightly keeping what they know close to the vest. In my opinion, there doesn't seem to be progress lately.
 
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are we allowed to acknowledge that the probability of someone harming these kids is looking more likely than a wandering.
 
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This is the first I have seen about any blood/DNA being found on a piece of Lily's blanket.
"During the interview Thursday, M said the blood sample he submitted would be used to test something on a blanket, but he did not provide details."
 
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are we allowed to acknowledge that the probability of someone harming these kids is looking more likely than a wander.
This has been my thought and feeling from day one that those babies never left the property alive.
 
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are we allowed to acknowledge that the probability of someone harming these kids is looking more likely than a wandering.
How does harm look more likely to you, than them wandering and getting lost?

To me, either seem equally possible and I haven't seen anything in this case that causes me to lean one way or the other.
 
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are we allowed to acknowledge that the probability of someone harming these kids is looking more likely than a wandering.

Given the location, a small home surrounded by vast, nearly impenetrable forest with numerous uprooted trees and general jumble left by the hurricane, and given that this occurred in rural Nova Scotia where children are rarely the victims of abduction, and with no evidence to suggest an abduction, I lean toward wandering out of sight and out of reach of the searchers.

The forest behind the home is so unkind that I doubt the children will ever be found. Even if they tucked themselves into the hollow of an uprooted tree, by spring, new branches will shoot up from within that space. In just one season, everything that lies on the forest floor will be hidden from view. Merely walking through the woods is never going to bring results. One would have to go over every inch of the forest with a garden rake.
 
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How does harm look more likely to you, than them wandering and getting lost?

To me, either seem equally possible and I haven't seen anything in this case that causes me to lean one way or the other.
I suppose imo only , the investigation seems to be leaning into somebody having information that can solve the case .

I also understand that a child getting lost in the woods requires an investigation too as cctv , witness statements , and every thing else that goes with finding missing people and prehaps what somebody may have is cctv that has not been offered to the rcmp or a sighting on that morning that they did not report .

It's just when an officer says that he has never seen a case like this in all the years he has worked it sounds more than two children wandering.

I could opine that what's unusual is two small children going missing in the woods and remaining unfound is what the officer is meaning but he did not say that .

The children could have been kidnapped further afield if someone happened upon them

i must question why DM is being required to give a blood sample If the kids wandered ? Why was there never an appeal from both DM and mbm on day one . Yes they spoke separately but no matter how somebody deals with a child going missing privately or publicly. Both parents generally have a United front on day one . They didn't , was/is mbm also having doubtful thinking and suspicion on what exactly happened to her children

One could say that mbm was being abused by DM and that is why she didn't feel comfortable doing that but she did say in her statement he was very good to the children. So on day one something was afoot.

As time went on red flags appeared to some people and the more time that passes looking at documents and hearing officers speak , I feel doubts creeping as to this being solely two kids lost but I'm on WS so I'm bound to have a naturally suspicious mind 😅 and I often bark up the wrong tree or back the wrong horse
 
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Given the location, a small home surrounded by vast, nearly impenetrable forest with numerous uprooted trees and general jumble left by the hurricane, and given that this occurred in rural Nova Scotia where children are rarely the victims of abduction, and with no evidence to suggest an abduction, I lean toward wandering out of sight and out of reach of the searchers.

The forest behind the home is so unkind that I doubt the children will ever be found. Even if they tucked themselves into the hollow of an uprooted tree, by spring, new branches will shoot up from within that space. In just one season, everything that lies on the forest floor will be hidden from view. Merely walking through the woods is never going to bring results. One would have to go over every inch of the forest with a garden rake.
I suppose the silver lining is the officers on the case haven't given up looking even if that is the case they have not lost hope and have not downed tools and given in to the forest
 
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This is the first I have seen about any blood/DNA being found on a piece of Lily's blanket.
"During the interview Thursday, M said the blood sample he submitted would be used to test something on a blanket, but he did not provide details."

“During the interview Thursday, M said the blood sample he submitted would be used to test something on a blanket, but he did not provide details.”

Notice DM said “a blanket” NOT the piece of the pink blanket found tied to a tree. IIRC the RCMP stated that piece was sent for analysis way back last May. It wouldn’t take many months to determine if there was blood on it and why not just test it to DNA samples? So maybe now we have a different mysterious blanket?

Honestly I think DM thrives by often dropping short non-detailed comments just to fuel speculation, generally not a tactic of a guilty person but it does serve to sustain public interest in this missing children’s case.
JMO
 
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Does anyone know if there's a reason investigators would specifically ask someone for a blood sample for DNA, rather than something less invasive like a cheek swab?
 
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Does anyone know if there's a reason investigators would specifically ask someone for a blood sample for DNA, rather than something less invasive like a cheek swab?
Great question

And what reason would officers be looking for that sample recently. Would it not have been requested at the beginning.

Unless as @MistyWaters points out that they have a new piece of blanket , interesting hypothesis.

Mysterious imo
 
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