CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lily Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025

[TMich6811]

So in truth, no one has seen these kids since the Tuesday before the Friday when they were reported missing.

Yes unless the people living on the property did or someone else but it hasn’t been reported

 

[Snoop Sister]

This one is a tough nut to crack. I keep thinking that if the kids wandered off into the rural woods and died in the elements, this seems like an area where predators might be big enough to take their small bodies away, making any remains even smaller and harder to find. And I hate typing that out. JMO.

If they did indeed wander off, I would think the search would be in recovery mode now?

 

[TMich6811]

If they did indeed wander off, I think the search would be in recovery mode now.

I was reading the thread of the 3 year old missing from the area and trying to determine when they switched it to recovery for a similar timeline

 

[Snoop Sister]

I was reading the thread of the 3 year old missing from the area and trying to determine when they switched it to recovery for a similar timeline

That would be good to know.

 

[iveyguy]

Dylan Ehler went missing exactly 5 years ago today, less than 100 km from this location. His boots were found in the river (in separate places) approximately seven hours after he was reported missing.

 

[LostSeeker]

I’m not sure of the Canadian school system but over here in the UK

A 4 year old would be in Nursery - they are only entitled to 15 free hours per week (unless both parents work then they get 30 hours) so if the system is similar to here it could just be that he wasn’t due in that day.

I’m also very uncomfortable at this point

Also in the UK: here most children will start school at 4, although they don’t legally need to go until they’re 5. Nursery/preschool isn’t compulsory, so technically, a UK 4-year-old could be in nursery/preschool, school, or neither.

My kids are 5 and 7. Personally, I’d still have taken my youngest to school/nursery if my older one had been sick. But as they don’t HAVE to be there at 4, I can understand why other parents wouldn’t bother, especially with it being nearly the weekend and both adults are home anyway.

 

[daisychain8]

More new information - there was an argument at the property (on Saturday). The Stepfather was accused. His mother kicked the children's Mothers' family out.

"He said there was an argument between the two families out in the yard of the home that day.

"My mother had to kick ... some people off the property cause they were saying that I did it, I had something to do with it, and I'm the only one here fighting for them, which is sad," he said."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/pictou-county-missing-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-6-1.7527394

It does make you wonder why the 'people' believe that he had something to do with it. Not speculating anything, but wondering why these 'people' felt so strongly that he was involved that they needed to be kicked off the property.

 

[technicallymissing]

If there was some sort of confrontation between families and she left without any sort of explanation or conversation, his comment makes perfect sense.

In any case, the parents are not named suspects in this awful case.

Knowing what we know now about the confrontation, saying he has “no idea” why she left does not make any sense in my opinion. He’s just told the press exactly why she left, so I don’t understand why he would have said he had no idea less than 24 hours ago. That said, I’m sure it’s a struggle for anyone related to these kids to get their message across to the public right now. Probably not sleeping much, not used to being the public eye, etc.

 

[TMich6811]

Dylan Ehler went missing exactly 5 years ago today, less than 100 km from this location. His boots were found in the river (in separate places) approximately seven hours after he was reported missing.

Yes, that was his name. Do you know when that changed from a search to a recovery?

 

[Nikynoo]

I saw this case on my fb newsfeed. My immediate thoughts, the children didn’t wander off. After skimming the thread, my thoughts are, the children didn’t wander off. If the children are supposedly autistic (as reported by the SF up thread) I cannot see that an autistic child would do this. I suspect they are both somewhere on the property. I hope I am wrong and they are safe somewhere.

 

[otto]

Knowing what we know now about the confrontation, saying he has “no idea” why she left does not make any sense in my opinion. He’s just told the press exactly why she left, so I don’t understand why he would have said he had no idea less than 24 hours ago. That said, I’m sure it’s a struggle for anyone related to these kids to get their message across to the public right now. Probably not sleeping much, not used to being the public eye, etc.

Not really. The maternal grandmother apparently accused the stepfather of doing something to the children. The paternal grandmother asked the accusers to leave. For unknown reasons, the mother and 16 month left home after the altercation. She didn't need to leave, and many have pointed out how unusual it is that she left the one place that the children know as home.

 

[technicallymissing]

Not really. The maternal grandmother apparently accused the stepfather of doing something to the children. The paternal grandmother asked the accusers to leave. For unknown reasons, the mother and 16 month left home after the altercation. She didn't need to leave, and many have pointed out how unusual it is that she left the one place that the children know as home.

I guess if I was the stepfather I would take her leaving with her family to mean that she agrees with them or is at least having doubts. It seems like a very clear message to me, but I’m realizing now after posters here have shared different opinions that people can certainly read things very differently. I still think “no idea” was strong phrasing from him given what had occurred between the two families. The stepdad at the very least knew L&J’s mom’s family was having doubts about him.

 

[iveyguy]

Not really. The maternal grandmother apparently accused the stepfather of doing something to the children. The paternal grandmother asked the accusers to leave. For unknown reasons, the mother and 16 month left home after the altercation. She didn't need to leave, and many have pointed out how unusual it is that she left the one place that the children know as home.

She's not the "paternal grandmother". She is not related to these children. Her son is in a relationship with their mother.

 

[FansBlowing]

Could they not have wanted to stay home from school and decided to walk to school themselves? That means they would walk down the road. How far is the elementary school?

 

[Stunned]

thank you I was just wondering about these newly mentioned cabins. So they would be like a rough hunting type shack not meant for living or staying in over the long term but to shelter in on a temporary basis.

Are they survivalist?

 

[iveyguy]

Some new information in an updated CBC article. The Stepfather was interrogated by the police on/around Saturday. His family was interrogated on Monday (yesterday).

When the children were reported missing on Friday, the RCMP said there was no evidence they had been abducted. Since then, there's been no indication from police that this has changed. But Martell said Tuesday that he now believes the children were taken. He said investigators with the RCMP's major crimes unit spoke with him a few days ago and with members of his family on Monday. "[The RCMP were] taking statements from the very start. They just want to rule everything out before they switch … concerns from being, you know, search and rescue to abduction," he said in an interview Tuesday.

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7527613

 

[shetalksinstereo]

I saw this case on my fb newsfeed. My immediate thoughts, the children didn’t wander off. After skimming the thread, my thoughts are, the children didn’t wander off. If the children are supposedly autistic (as reported by the SF up thread) I cannot see that an autistic child would do this. I suspect they are both somewhere on the property. I hope I am wrong and they are safe somewhere.

I wonder if there are any wells, either active or inactive on their property or adjacent properties?

 

[iveyguy]

There is no municipal water or sewer service in this area. Every house would likely have a well and septic tank, but these are generally not accessible and wouldn't be considered a common threat.

There was a previous question about "walking to school" - it's 20km/20-minute drive away. I'm not exaggerating when I say this... Nobody walks along this road! I suspect the kids would have never walked along the road in their lives - it's simply too far to go anywhere by walking, there's no sidewalk, and cars are whizzing by at 100 km/h. If anyone driving by had observed two young, improperly dressed children walking on this road, they would have remembered and likely would have intervened.

 

[moonriverfarm]

That littered unkempt property has many a hiding place for small kids - but they would easily be found by now.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I saw this case on my fb newsfeed. My immediate thoughts, the children didn’t wander off. After skimming the thread, my thoughts are, the children didn’t wander off. If the children are supposedly autistic (as reported by the SF up thread) I cannot see that an autistic child would do this. I suspect they are both somewhere on the property. I hope I am wrong and they are safe somewhere.

I may be reading this wrong. Are you saying an autistic child wouldn't wander off?