NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #10 *Arrest*

[arielilane]

Are faraday bags considered suspicious? We already have wallets that block scammers from accessing credit card info. I keep my car key fob in a faraday box (there was a lot of car thefts for a while during Covid). If people are carrying laptops containing intellectual property would it be unusual for them to place them in backpacks that block access? In NYC and other large cities I would think there's several thousand people walking around with backpacks that have that technology. They aren't considered a threat by airport security.

I dont think a Faraday bag is considered suspicious. I think they’re smart to use at times.
LM choice to be nefarious when using the Faraday bag, as he was attempting to go incognito and that makes it suspicious.

LE use Faraday bags all the time.

moo

 

[Tiff23fr]

Another date specific data point for timelines:

Caption under a photo:
This photo, provided by the Hawaii Dept. of Land and Natural Resources, shows Luigi Mangione, a suspect in the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, receiving a citation for failing to observe a posted closed-area sign, in Honolulu, Sunday, Nov. 12, 2023. (Hawaii Dept. of Land and Natural Resources via AP)

Back trouble and brain fog bothered suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO killing, his posts show

Social media posts from Luigi Mangione show the man suspected of killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson underwent successful back surgery last year that alleviated debilitating chronic pain.

whyy.org

Replying to add location specifics since they are in a different article:
Mangione was an active hiker. Court records reveal that he received a citation last November for hiking within a closed area on the southeast slope of the Nuuanu Pali lookout.

Suspect in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO lived in Hawaii

Hawaii News Now has confirmed the 26-year-old lived in a rental unit in Kakaako.

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

 

[DizzyB]

He misses friends wedding in July, Mom files MIA Nov 18 (what took her so long), arrives NY Nov 24, murders CEO Dec 5, arrested Altoona PA, Dec 9.

Exactly what took them so long. His Twitter was wide open. It’s such a big family, do any of his cousins follow him on Twitter? I’d probably mention it to someone if he wasn’t responding to his friend that he committed to for his wedding, at the same time my aunt and uncle were not hearing from him. No alarm bells from anyone for 5 months?

 

[IDK]

His widow/estranged wife said he had been receiving threats, IF what the Mail is saying is true and he had bodyguards in NYC then why didn’t he use them? either he was very casual about the threats or arranged his own hit

Good point—- do we know yet if the threats are related to the shooting? Did they come from LM?

 

[Sundog]

Exactly what took them so long. His Twitter was wide open. It’s such a big family, do any of his cousins follow him on Twitter? I’d probably mention it to someone if he wasn’t responding to his friend that he committed to for his wedding, at the same time my aunt and uncle were not hearing from him. No alarm bells from anyone for 5 months?

Maybe there were alarm bells, but also hesitancy to contact authorities. They appear to have gone the route of hiring a private investigator at some point and contacting friends, etc.

 

[Sundog]

McDonald's employee who called 911 in CEO's shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time

More than 400 tips were called into the New York Police Department's Crime Stoppers tip line during the five-day search for a masked gunman who ambushed and fatally shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson last week. NYPD officials said about 30 of those tips were useful as information about...

www.yahoo.com

Details about how both FBI and NYC LE review and adjudicate reward money, including information on how they can split a reward in two or more ways if the tips that have come in warrant this action.

 

[CityKid]

Maybe LM had gone off the grid before but not for as long a time as this, so initially they were worried but hesitated to contact LE. Maybe when he travelled abroad he would not contact them for long time periods, and they kept thinking they would hear soon. It was reported somewhere in MSM that LM had a relative or relatives in San Francisco. So maybe the parents were contacting the relative to see if they could locate LM and help them get in contact with him.

It was reported that the family were contacting his friends in HI during this time, so we know they were active in trying to locate him. Again, it probably went longer than usual and was getting them increasingly worried, especially his mother.

I do wonder what circumstances led them to report him missing. He's an adult; adult children sometimes do cut their families out of their lives. I'm really surprised the SFPD, which probably has its hands full, followed up on this unless the parents gave reasons for their concern that we don't know about.

 

[otto]

Suggesting that a jury would be selected due to opinion about the health insurance industry almost presupposes that some murder is justified. That is, if jurors believe that the health insurance industry is corrupt, should they conclude that Mangione committed justifiable homicide? Obviously not.

 

[Jamara3]

That's interesting tht LM volunteered to take part in the activities of his alma mater's alumni chapter in Hawaii. On the other hand, this was an event where he could be viewed as special, again, since he was a recent grad of Penn and most of the other alums attending the social outing/cultural event had apparently graduated a long time ago.

This is helping to add to a theory for me that he was really struggling with post Ivy League school life. Not any sympathy here, just recognizing something I’ve seen before. Post college life is hard for a lot of people. Especially for some elite grads, imo they’re not prepared well. The real world lacks the loftiness of high academia. There he felt in a special world and class. The subject matter is abstract rather than pedantic and based on the mundane day to day needs and tasks of capitalism. He thought he was on top of the world in his ivy league school, and realized how out of water he is in the tech world in SF.

He got laid off and sought refuge with alumni, perhaps seeking the same kind of support he felt in school or with professors. It was his safe place, like McDonalds (ha). The guy should have just gone into academia, back to get his PhD and start teaching IMO.

 

[mrstfs]

UNITEDHEALTHCARE CEO KILLING: LUIGI MANGIONE LEFT NEW YORK CITY BY TRAIN, NOT BY BUS, SOURCES SAY​

UnitedHealthcare CEO killing: Luigi Mangione left New York City by train, not by bus, sources say

Luigi Mangione, the suspect accused of gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, left New York City by train, and not by bus as first thought, police sources told ABC News.

abc7ny.com

 

[Big Ears]

I was thinking as Luigi was a full grown adult; she kept thinking he'd hooked up with friends and was neglecting to check in with his parents ?
A little rude .. but an 'oh well', type of situation ?
Until his mom thought it could no longer be ignored, or she was able to contact all of his friends and associates and literally no one had heard from him ?
Imo.

Yes, I would imagine she and family were heartsick not knowing his whereabouts, resulting in the MIA report ten days prior to Thanksgiving. Most families would certainly expect to hear from him and see him for the holiday. I wonder where he spent that day in NY. Maybe the hostel had a dinner.

 

[DizzyB]

UNITEDHEALTHCARE CEO KILLING: LUIGI MANGIONE LEFT NEW YORK CITY BY TRAIN, NOT BY BUS, SOURCES SAY​

UnitedHealthcare CEO killing: Luigi Mangione left New York City by train, not by bus, sources say

Luigi Mangione, the suspect accused of gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, left New York City by train, and not by bus as first thought, police sources told ABC News.

abc7ny.com

And none of the cameras in Penn picked that up???

 

[kaen]

And none of the cameras in Penn picked that up???

I would bet that this gap has been fixed already......

 

[armchairagatha]

This is helping to add to a theory for me that he was really struggling with post Ivy League school life. Not any sympathy here, just recognizing something I’ve seen before. Post college life is hard for a lot of people. Especially for some elite grads, imo they’re not prepared well. The real world lacks the loftiness of high academia. There he felt in a special world and class. The subject matter is abstract rather than pedantic and based on the mundane day to day needs and tasks of capitalism. He thought he was on top of the world in his ivy league school, and realized how out of water he is in the tech world in SF.

He got laid off and sought refuge with alumni, perhaps seeking the same kind of support he felt in school or with professors. It was his safe place, like McDonalds (ha). The guy should have just gone into academia, back to get his PhD and start teaching IMO.

In this case, he should have gone after the TrueCar CEO or a tech CEO. If his anger was against Corporate America. Instead, it seemed to be more specifically targeted at UHC and health insurance which is baffling especially since he doesn’t seem to have had any major claims turned down.

 

[Seattle1]

Not really, no. Waiving just speeds up the process, but it would be a smart move on his part if he intends to seek a plea.

I dunno -- if the evidence authorities have for murder proves true, LM must know his days of freedom are over. I don't think I'd be in any hurry to leave PA State Correctional in Huntingdon (depicted below) for Rikers Island! I think I'd be on the extended stay --but that's just me.

Prosecutors in NYC presenting evidence in the CEO murder case to a grand jury: sources

An indictment could strengthen the case for extradition, which 26-year-old Luigi Mangione is fighting.

abc7ny.com

 

[Kapua]

I think he was a lone wolf too (but before he was caught, I didn't!).

I am curious about his finances, though. How was he funding all the world travel? Does he have disposable income from family?

Even rich kids are often expected to fend for themselves after schooling. Were his international travels FOR money?

And/or, did losing his job shock him into thinking he couldn't fend for himself? Did he have a wake-up call that being an adult is full of challenges, and he wasn't up to facing them? (That's what I kind of think, at the moment).

jmo

Many of us thought he was a lone wolf, and then we heard that he has a big family and he was popular in grade school and college - life of the party, cracking that beer open on his head.

I think adulting is a rude awakening to many late teens/twenty-somethings regardless of whether you come from a working-class, middle-class or affluent background. It's a huge adjustment from school days. I am certain that losing his job was traumatic as well.

I think he had a mental break. I can't pretend to know what triggered it, or if he was somehow predisposed to it. There are many possibilities - bipolar disorder? early onset schizophrenia? But nobody in his life has come forward to say that they saw it coming. In fact, the opposite appears to be true. I wish his mom's PI could have found him before he committed this heinous crime.

All MOO

 

[citygirl]

Agreed with your comment -- that he was loved, cared for, and safe.
All the more reason to find this crime so disturbing !

However, I really can't imagine being cuffed, surrounded by cops, and thrown into jail, mostly because I also can't imagine shooting someone in cold blood who is walking away from me and whom hasn't harmed me or mine.
LM had to have known he'd be arrested.

He's prob. more savvy about the world and the results of his own actions, than one might think ?
The cops weren't rough with him and were only trying to get him from point A to point B without undue fussing, it looked like.

Opinion might change, but at this time I'm not feeling sympathy for Mr. Mangione.
It's sad that two kids will have to spend their first holiday without their dad.
Not to mention the rest of Brian's family.

And the Mangione's have also lost their son to the courts and justice system -- in the worst possible circumstances. I am sorry he put them through this.
He's callous.
Omo.

I know. I’m too soft hearted. At my age he seems like a lost kid to me. Not forgiving what he did, though. Fully aware that he needs to be held accountable. Feel for the victims family and his family. The ubiquitous ripple effect. MOO

 

[legalese]

I dunno -- if the evidence authorities have for murder proves true, LM must know his days of freedom are over. I don't think I'd be in any hurry to leave PA State Correctional in Huntingdon (depicted below) for Rikers Island! I think I'd be on the extended stay --but that's just me.
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Prosecutors in NYC presenting evidence in the CEO murder case to a grand jury: sources

An indictment could strengthen the case for extradition, which 26-year-old Luigi Mangione is fighting.

abc7ny.com

You got me there! Truly, the minimal favor he may get for waiving and looking a little cooperative isn’t worth it when the outcome is more time in Rikers.

 

[citygirl]

You got me there! Truly, the minimal favor he may get for waiving and looking a little cooperative isn’t worth it when the outcome is more time in Rikers.

And he has no idea how deep he is in. MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Basically, the San Fran police tip went to the FBI and was then forwarded to NYPD. Because the FBI didn’t say this tip had come from another LE agency, it was handled just like a standard tip, when it should have received priority.

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UnitedHealthcare CEO killing latest: Veteran former prosecutor to represent Luigi Mangione in New York

Luigi Mangione may waive extradition to New York City as early as Tuesday, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said on Friday.

abcnews.go.com