NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #11 *Arrest*

[Tamagal]

Exactly, we don't know. It seems from what we've seen he had a fairly wide circle of friends and in that sense it doesn't seem he lacked personal skills. People in tech aren't always the most socially adept and when you throw in remote work, people can be even further removed from their coworkers. But like you say, we just don't know what he was like in his job or exactly how

 

[Tamagal]

I think we are reading way too much into this. I believe he was a spoiled brat his whole life & felt he needed a purpose in life (like many rich kids I grew up with). He just took it to the extreme.
….and hopefully pays dearly for it!!

 

[Friday Fan]

If that's true, which is very dubious, it had no bearing on the terrorism enhancer, which was a state charge.

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Dec 21, 2024

Exclusive | Insurance industry leaned on DOJ to take Luigi Mangione case as deterrent against copycat killers: sources

Health insurance industry leaders leaned on the US Department of Justice to prosecute accused UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin Luigi Mangione.

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“Sources told The Post that the federal charges came amid pressure from health insurance industry leaders to make an example out of Mangione, though it was unclear which specific entities petitioned the DOJ.”

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I think it came from this. But, I don't think the feds are gonna pursue the death penalty. (I hope not. This guy is already a "martyr")

Many murders are death penalty eligible and it is rarely pursued at the federal level.

I'm skeptical of this

 

[MassGuy]

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Dec 21, 2024

Exclusive | Insurance industry leaned on DOJ to take Luigi Mangione case as deterrent against copycat killers: sources

Health insurance industry leaders leaned on the US Department of Justice to prosecute accused UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin Luigi Mangione.

nypost.com

“Sources told The Post that the federal charges came amid pressure from health insurance industry leaders to make an example out of Mangione, though it was unclear which specific entities petitioned the DOJ.”

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I think it came from this. But, I don't think the feds are gonna pursue the death penalty. (I hope not. This guy is already a "martyr")

Many murders are death penalty eligible and it is rarely pursued at the federal level.

I'm skeptical of this

Yeah, I don't see them going for the death penalty here. The nice thing is that the feds don't have to prove the terrorism element to get what amounts to a first degree murder charge. So no matter what happens in New York, that's what he could wind up facing regardless, life in prison.

 

[Tamagal]

Yeah, I don't see them going for the death penalty here. The nice thing is that the feds don't have to prove the terrorism element to get what amounts to a first degree murder charge. So no matter what happens in New York, that's what he could wind up facing regardless, life in prison.

Isn’t it sad we can watch on video a man being shot in the back by another, and we have to question what proof they have & what an appropriate sentence for cold-blooded murder should be?

 

[MassGuy]

Isn’t it sad we can watch on video a man being shot in the back by another, and we have to question what proof they have & what an appropriate sentence will be?

Lol, I know. It's the quintessential example of premeditated first degree murder. Honestly, I can't think of a more perfect example.

 

[Friday Fan]

Isn’t it sad we can watch on video a man being shot in the back by another, and we have to question what an appropriate sentence will be?

Laws are laws. New York does not have the death penalty. The federal government rarely imposes it. This is mainly due to the fact that data shows the death penalty has been applied unevenly amongst certain demographics.

I prefer that he be out of the public eye and the best way is in prison. Preferably federal prison. They provide more privacy. He wants a megaphone. Death row will give him a megaphone. Even Timothy McVeigh got a megaphone near the end.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Isn’t it sad we can watch on video a man being shot in the back by another, and we have to question what proof they have & what an appropriate sentence for cold-blooded murder should be?

He'll have a proper defense and be convicted and do serious time. The end.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Isn’t it sad we can watch on video a man being shot in the back by another, and we have to question what proof they have & what an appropriate sentence for cold-blooded murder should be?

I must have missed something. Who is questioning what proof they have?

 

[LadyL]

By all accounts at each hearing he was said to be searching for a familiar face to no avail.
MOO

seeking their approval of his 'heroic measures' IMO

 

[MassGuy]

seeking their approval of his 'heroic measures' IMO

Yeah, I think he was looking for validation. I think he has a very big ego.

 

[GRT]

Jeez they had more cops around him than El Chapo did. Guess it's to show the scared CEOs that things are safe for then and to continue the nice political donations

The spectacle LE is making and the media blitz around this guy is more likely to trigger copycats than dissuade them. MOO

 

[GRT]

Wondering what his sentence will be. Rumors are CEOs got the DOJ involved, which is why the terrorism charge. I don't see it as terrorism, just planned murder.

I'm going to wait a bit longer to see if LM's crime, shenanigans, and manifesto trigger a more significant movement before I decide if I think it was terrorism or not.

Either way, if CEOs did convince the DOJ to get involved (that's possible because big money gets big results), it might not have the effect they want.

As many here have stated, calling it terrorism is going to shine more light on his "cause."

 

[GRT]

I think it's entirely possible his parents aren't there because he doesn't want them there. He did disappear for months prior to this murder, and they were desperately looking for him. Perhaps this is a continuation of that.

I think this is likely.

Through his defense team, he can communicate his wishes to his parents, and they can likewise send messages to him.

 

[Betty P]

wow, i wonder what they were thinking with this hollywood photo opportunity! it seems like whoever makes these decisions is not really in touch with the sentiments of the public. i think if you want to nip something in the bud, you first have to understand what’s behind it. for example, the idea of wealth/power disparity, something that luigi supporters are angry about, is only strengthened with this display because well, someone who kills ordinary people wouldn’t get this treatment

also just the imagery of lots of armed characters in black, and one unarmed, calm looking handsome guy in colour, i think it’s having the opposite effect of what they were going for

JMO, the governor and LE decision to make a big photo op of this has already backfired. Playing PR with this case is a bad choice. The backstory of millions of Americans suffering from lack of access to health care will prevent anyone from capitalizing on this case.

Among the victims this time are the abused patients, deceased or suffering and bankrupt. That’s not going away. They would also do well to avoid trying to make martyrs of the other CEOs who profit from similar abuse.

This doesn’t seem to be a case in which to use media theatrics, JMO. It’s nothing like the Boston Bombings case, not at all.

 

[GRT]

JMO, the governor and LE decision to make a big photo op of this has already backfired. From a political standpoint, playing PR with this case is a bad choice. The backstory of millions of Americans suffering from lack of access to health care will prevent any politicians from capitalizing on this case.

Among the victims this time are the abused patients, deceased or suffering and bankrupt. That’s not going away. They would also do well to avoid trying to make martyrs of the other CEOs who profit from abuse. Now isn’t the time to play politics with this case, JMO.

Good point about politicians!

I hadn't even considered that--but it's true.

 

[Betty P]

Why was Thompson who lived in Minnesota specifically targeted? Why not AW, the highest paid service CEO? Certainly not suggesting harm to him. Just wondering.

It’s an interesting question, one I hope we’ll learn the answer to. I wonder how he was able to track Thompson? Was he able to track AW, too? Did one have a more public-facing work schedule than the other?

 

[detective.moon]

i just read that there had been a halt of 20 years for federal death penalty, until Trump brought it back in 2017. now Biden has commuted 37 out of 40 death sentences to LWOP. so i’m guessing even if LM gets the death penalty, it will
depend on future presidents and their stance on federal death penalty whether it will be carried out.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/23/politics/biden-federal-death-row-trump/index.html

 

[Marantz4250b]

That's what really bothers me about this case. A young, intelligent, educated, seemingly socially adept man from a wealthy family background just decides out of the blue to ruin both his life and another man's life. He had to have realized that he would be caught and probably spend the rest of his life in prison. I just don't get it. He could have had a very successful career, started a family, and enjoyed many more trips to exotic locations around the world. Why he opted for living in a cage instead is beyond my comprehension.

I don't think that's the case, tbh. He didn't just change from "charming pillar of the community" to a raging, psychotic swivel-eyed loon overnight. People don't do that - brain injuries and sudden onset medical issues aside.

His mother is reported to have said to the cops/FBI _it's something I can see him doing_ and she hadn't even heard from him for months.

This will have been simmering in him for years. It's his personality.

All my own opinion, obvs.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The hearing on Monday marks Mangione’s first opportunity to formally address the accusations brought by the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office.

He formally waived extradition and was flown from Pennsylvania to New York and arrived in Lower Manhattan surrounded by dozens of heavily armed law enforcement officers and the city’s mayor.

A federal criminal complaint was unsealed Thursday, in which Mangione was charged with murder through use of a firearm, two stalking charges and a firearms offense

Luigi Mangione, CEO killing suspect, expected to be arraigned on state terror and murder charges today

(CNN) — Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a busy sidewalk in Midtown Manhattan, is expected to be arraigned Monday in New

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