NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*

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From inmate's prisonjournalismproject.org Jan. 23 article. FWIW.

Luigi was issued "turtle suit" not standard orange jumpsuit.

"Every time he was escorted from his cell, D Block got locked down. During lockdowns, all prisoner movement is prohibited."

Inmates responded to NewsNation reporter night time live-streaming next to facility by shouting & flipping lights off & on.
Deputy superintendent's later response to inmates --- don't flash lights.

"The deputy superintendent’s threat was all the act-right motivation they needed. Freedom of speech suppressed? Check."

Sooooooooo, about what I would expect from fellow inmate.

Original article by inmate. Jan. 23, 2025 When Luigi Mangione Came to Our Prison

* Re "kite" in prisonjournalismproject.org article
“Kite” is a prison term for an informal message or a complaint."
"This section contains first-person reports by our writers about aspects of prison rooted in their personal experiences. Editors verify basic information in these stories. But some claims that rely on the writer’s observations and first-hand experiences cannot always be independently confirmed."

Repeating link from post by @imstilla.grandma TYVM :)
 
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I would have liked to have read this but hit with a paywall. Bummer.
I was able to read it with no paywall the first time I clicked on it, but the second time I hit a paywall. Maybe someone has a subscription and can gift an article?
 
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LM can say he was sparking some kind of social movement but he's up on murder charges. In reality, he stands accused of shooting a man in the back. Brazen, misguided, cowardly, evil. Others held that position before the victim and others will have it after. Singling him out for the job he did? BT was more than a CEO. He was a dad. A spouse, son, neighbor, colleague, friend. LM, if guilty as charged, shot a dad in the back. There's no nobility in that, nor nobility in resolving differences with a lopsided stand-off. But then, you don't bring a gun to a conversation, not that LM ever intended dialogue. He exacted no justice.

If LM had a real issue with health care/insurance and how it's implemented, maybe he should have done the time -- work his way up the system and create systemic change from the inside. Instead, if convicted, he'll be a lifelong drain on society as taxpayers pay for his room, board and medical care... while two young men grow up without a father.

There should be no celebrity-status, no glamour attached to that.

 
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dbm
 
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LM can say he was sparking some kind of social movement but he's up on murder charges. In reality, he stands accused of shooting a man in the back. Brazen, misguided, cowardly, evil. Others held that position before the victim and others will have it after. Singling him out for the job he did? BT was more than a CEO. He was a dad. A spouse, son, neighbor, colleague, friend. LM, if guilty as charged, shot a dad in the back. There's no nobility in that, nor nobility in resolving differences with a lopsided stand-off. But then, you don't bring a gun to a conversation, not that LM ever intended dialogue. He exacted no justice.

If LM had a real issue with health care/insurance and how it's implemented, maybe he should have done the time -- work his way up the system and create systemic change from the inside. Instead, if convicted, he'll be a lifelong drain on society as taxpayers pay for his room, board and medical care... while two young men grow up without a father.

There should be no celebrity-status, no glamour attached to that.

I wish that I could give this post a standing ovation!
 
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Minnesotan here. May have posted this before, but within 2 days there was a fence, gate, and human security around UHC headquarters in Minnesota. Prior to the killing, the facility was an open campus.

AND... Essentia Health and the University of Minnesota have proposed the formation of a new nonprofit healthcare organization. Our state’s healthcare providers and leaders, as well as everyday Minnesotans, have said loud and clear the status quo is no longer working for anyone.

What LM did was awful and not a solution for health care, but it did bring to the surface private insurers making profits, paying CEOs huge sums, while denying services to insured. Last 2024 denial rate for UHC was 32%. I can personally say UHC downsized my PT by 8 visits. Nice to know they are more informed than my doctor's recommendation. I am insured through a company plan, which was previously with a not-for-profit insurer that never had a public denial issue or downsizing issue. Now I am insured by this company through UHC. UHC is a private company that IMO is in it for the money, not to help people.
 
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“There were a couple of these photos where he’s smiling at just the right angle, and it just kind of dawned on me,” Horan said. “Like, oh my God. That smile looks exactly like the guy in the surveillance photos.”

Horan on Wednesday was named officer of the month in December for his role in connecting Mangione to the New York slaying, four days before his name became public following his Dec. 9 arrest at a Pennsylvania McDonalds.
 
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Luigi may have been hankering for notoriety for several years, even before he sustained any injury to his back or decided to target the healthcare industry. I suspect he carried some notion that he would make an impact on society, that his life meant something, which led him eventually to ruin lives, his own included, by a very high profile public murder. He sought to affect change with violence. He appears to me more and more immature the more his actions are considered.
 
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There's no way of telling at this time, but I wonder how much remorse LM feels for what he did. I hope that he does. I hope he finds a way of expressing it believably, however remote the possibility, but for the rest of his existence he will amount to nothing more than the killer of Brian Thompson. He might feel there's redemption in the fact that his actions sparked debate about what is wrong within the healthcare industry, but the feeling (if held) is too validating of an unnecessary execution that discards every positive manner available to address the issues plaguing healthcare.

I would want him to feel remorse. Thus far, I suspect he might only be looking for validation for what he has done. Pleading Not Guilty, though expected, bolsters my suspicion. The trial should be interesting.
 
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There's no way of telling at this time, but I wonder how much remorse LM feels for what he did. I hope that he does. I hope he finds a way of expressing it believably, however remote the possibility, but for the rest of his existence he will amount to nothing more than the killer of Brian Thompson. He might feel there's redemption in the fact that his actions sparked debate about what is wrong within the healthcare industry, but the feeling (if held) is too validating of an unnecessary execution that discards every positive manner available to address the issues plaguing healthcare.

I would want him to feel remorse. Thus far, I suspect he might only be looking for validation for what he has done. Pleading Not Guilty, though expected, bolsters my suspicion. The trial should be interesting.
I know from experience, someone like him doesn't feel remorse, only remorse that they were caught.
 
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I know from experience, someone like him doesn't feel remorse, only remorse that they were caught.
Sadly, that is what I expect. He does not want accountability, he wants notoriety, like many of his ilk.
 
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Luigi Mangione is appointed "learned counsel"—that is, an attorney experienced in death penalty cases.Joining Mangione's defense team is Avraham Moskowitz, whose bio says he's "successfully represented more than fifty clients charged with capital crimes in the federal courts of New York." https://buff.ly/4jHDs4a

 

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"Luigi is aware of the fund and very much appreciates the outpouring of support. My client plans on utilizing it to fight all three of the unprecedented cases against him," Karen Friedman Agnifilo, an attorney for Mangione, told Newsweek in a statement on Tuesday.
 
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He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of the state charges."The Agnifilo Intrater team is pleased to have Avi Moskowitz lend his considerable expertise in death penalty cases to Mr. Mangione's federal case as 'learned counsel.' The charges could not be more serious and our client needs every resource at his disposal to fight these unprecedented charges in three jurisdictions," a spokesperson for the firm said in a statement provided to ABC News.
Red emphasis mine.
In what universe would cold-blooded murder be considered, 'unprecedented' ?
As if it's unheard of to be facing such harsh charges.
Smh.

Brian's wife, kids, and the rest of his family members will never get to see him again.
As much as I think LM is definitely eligible for the death penalty, I'd push for life without parole if on the jury.
Let him sit in a tiny cell as he ages and turns grey, thinking about the opportunities in life that he threw away.
Omo.
 
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What Happens Next​

Mangione remains jailed in Brooklyn. His next federal court date is set for February 17 and he is due back in New York state court on February 21.



2/4/2025
 
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A death penalty expert was appointed to the defense team of Luigi Mangione on Tuesday by a federal judge in New York. Mangione, 26, is charged with the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in front of a Midtown Manhattan hotel in December
 

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