NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

[MinnesotaMary]

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Imo that shooter was performing his job, doing all he'd been hired to do, including using the etched bullets. This is highly organized and remember just one more piece of this is that over in Minnesota a couple hours later there was a pipe threat on the wife's multi-million dollar mansion and approximately 1 hour prior to that pipe bombing threat the brand new security they now had observed a car with Illinois license plates drive up to wife's multi million dollar mansion and put an envelope in her mailbox.

 

[detective.moon]

a thought that popped into my head, what if the shooter is actually terminally ill (with an illness that’s not impacting him too much yet) and felt like he had nothing to lose?

i’m not expecting it to be true, but it would make a good background story, it would explain his motive too

 

[getthefax]

Imo that shooter was performing his job, doing all he'd been hired to do, including using the etched bullets. This is highly organized and remember just one more piece of this is that over in Minnesota a couple hours later there was a pipe threat on the wife's multi-million dollar mansion and approximately 1 hour prior to that pipe bombing threat the brand new security they now had observed a car with Illinois license plates drive up to wife's multi million dollar mansion and put an envelope in her mailbox.

Agree it was highly organized.
I wrote extensively in post #826 my hypothesis on what kind of crime this is…

 

[MinnesotaMary]

I can understand how he travel by Greyhound bus and then go stay in a hostel and wouldn't have a gun initially but someone please explain to me, of all the guns around there are to buy, why would he choose that looney gun to be the one he purchased?

 

[Torbs]

Stretching a little here because the range of motives is so wide, but if you’re looking at his wife the insider trading thing is actually a pretty big deal. They are separated but seem to have a good partnership going: she gets to live a pretty affluent lifestyle and her kids are set up because the victim was a well-paid exec. But if he turned out to be a crook, poof goes the career along with all of his long-term comp (there’s probably a morality clause in his employment agreement). Wave goodbye to the ill-gotten gains, too. We are talking an eight-figure impact! A tragic murder might solve for a lot of those potential problems (not to mention he certainly had a big life insurance policy). MOO.

 

[boater55]

I thought that it was stated that the thing put in the mailbox in Minnesota was simply the postal carrier delivering the mail?

 

[MinnesotaMary]

a thought that popped into my head, what if the shooter is actually terminally ill (with an illness that’s not impacting him too much yet) and felt like he had nothing to lose?

i’m not expecting it to be true, but it would make a good background story, it would explain his motive too

I agree a terminally ill sort of person could hypothetically do this crime as a lone wolf... It just seems that with the evidence they have so far this was a very well organized and long planned assassination and the people behind it have big money themselves.

 

[IDK]

Imo that shooter was performing his job, doing all he'd been hired to do, including using the etched bullets. This is highly organized and remember just one more piece of this is that over in Minnesota a couple hours later there was a pipe threat on the wife's multi-million dollar mansion and approximately 1 hour prior to that pipe bombing threat the brand new security they now had observed a car with Illinois license plates drive up to wife's multi million dollar mansion and put an envelope in her mailbox.

Thank you for laying this out so clearly. Are you thinking this is a conspiracy of some sort?

 

[getthefax]

I can understand how he travel by Greyhound bus and then go stay in a hostel and wouldn't have a gun initially but someone please explain to me, of all the guns around there are to buy, why would he choose that looney gun to be the one he purchased?

I have a hypothesis and explained it in my post (# 826). It’s actually a veterinary weapon used to put down sick and wounded animals.

Makes a weird kind of sense if you’re murdering the CEO of a widely despised health insurance company, especially if you’re the type to write on the bullets “deny” and “depose” so you can send a message.
I know, it makes for good fiction… but it’s my theory and I’m holding to it for now. MOO

 

[IDK]

I can understand how he travel by Greyhound bus and then go stay in a hostel and wouldn't have a gun initially but someone please explain to me, of all the guns around there are to buy, why would he choose that looney gun to be the one he purchased?

The weapon itself is a message? Along with the shell casings.

I’ve read it’s a weapon used to euthanize animals.

 

[getthefax]

The weapon itself is a message? Along with the shell casings.

I’ve read it’s a weapon used to euthanize animals.

yes, precisely.

 

[IDK]

I have a hypothesis and explained it in my post (# 826). It’s actually a veterinary weapon used to put down sick and wounded animals.

Makes a weird kind of sense if you’re murdering the CEO of a widely despised health insurance company, especially if you’re the type to write on the bullets “deny” and “depose” so you can send a message.
I know, it makes for good fiction… but it’s my theory and I’m holding to it for now. MOO

Totally agree.

 

[clearskies1]

At any time day or night in NYC, an unattended bike, especially an e-bike, would be stolen in 30 seconds.

Of course. Theft is why I think he may have left it in the street -- to get rid of the bike. I'm talking about after the crime, not before. Before and during the crime, he probably locked it.

 

[Jamara3]

a thought that popped into my head, what if the shooter is actually terminally ill (with an illness that’s not impacting him too much yet) and felt like he had nothing to lose?

i’m not expecting it to be true, but it would make a good background story, it would explain his motive too

I’ve thought about this as well. His build looks rather thin, especially his bone structure in the maskless image of his face. From one perspective it appears Chalamet chique, or it could actually be frail like someone terminally ill.

 

[getthefax]

Stretching a little here because the range of motives is so wide, but if you’re looking at his wife the insider trading thing is actually a pretty big deal. They are separated but seem to have a good partnership going: she gets to live a pretty affluent lifestyle and her kids are set up because the victim was a well-paid exec. But if he turned out to be a crook, poof goes the career along with all of his long-term comp (there’s probably a morality clause in his employment agreement). Wave goodbye to the ill-gotten gains, too. We are talking an eight-figure impact! A tragic murder might solve for a lot of those potential problems (not to mention he certainly had a big life insurance policy). MOO.

Agree this is a very interesting angle. Excellent post.

 

[Nikynoo]

I have a hypothesis and explained it in my post (# 826). It’s actually a veterinary weapon used to put down sick and wounded animals.

Makes a weird kind of sense if you’re murdering the CEO of a widely despised health insurance company, especially if you’re the type to write on the bullets “deny” and “depose” so you can send a message.
I know, it makes for good fiction… but it’s my theory and I’m holding to it for now. MOO

is it this post? if so, it has changed number now - NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #2

Interesting theory. There were many companies hit at the beginning of the year (don't ask how I know).

 

[Nikynoo]

Of course. Theft is why I think he may have left it in the street -- to get rid of the bike. I'm talking about after the crime, not before. Before and during the crime, he probably locked it.

This is a good angle and an excellent way to get rid of a bike.

 

[Kittybunny]

One theory I haven’t seen posted yet is that the shooter is an employee or ex-employee who worked for UHC. Disgusted by his company’s policies, maybe he was a tech guy involved in the AI implementation, or oversaw claims and just couldn’t take it anymore. Maybe he was fired because he started to push back on policies or didn’t toe the company line. He’s an injustice collector, a self-styled hero of the people and he’s laid all his grievances on the back of the CEO, literally.

I’m not sure I lean this way myself, because I think he would be quickly recognized but we don’t know if someone has already turned him in. Like @MassGuy said, I don’t think we will hear about his identity at this point until he is captured…or until the trail runs cold.

 

[getthefax]

is it this post? if so, it has changed number now - NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #2

Interesting theory. There were many companies hit at the beginning of the year (don't ask how I know).

Thank you, yes! I’ll correct it. Thanks for the kind word.

Yes, so many companies hit. I worry that the revenue generated may pay for a lot of subsequent crimes.

ETA: welp, I could t correct it. #814 is where I posted all my mental post-it notes.

 

[Charlot123]

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Correct. I assumed all along he had the bike locked up somewhere, e.g., to a streetlamp, fence, utility pole, or other solid object

But he was holding a battery, remember? An unattended e-bike without a battery would not be stolen fast.