NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #5

[Yellowbunny2]

I'm very disheartened by seeing lots of support on social media for this killer.

Regardless of how callous, or greedy, or shady people perceive insurance companies to be, any wrongdoing should be held in a trial, not murder. As someone said before, we live in a civilized society.

I feel for the victim's family, and want this person to be caught. Murder is not justified against a man walking down a street, whether he is a CEO or a random civilian.

Just my two cents.

 

[eddie_van]

I don't think he was paid by an individual to do this. He wouldn't be playing games. The person who hired him would be pissed.

I think he did have someone working with him based on precise timing.

He is a very very patient man. He got to NY ten days before the killing.

I wonder if he'll try another murder....

yes, the games discount any murder for hire theory imo

 

[Arkay]

I can’t think of any other similar assassination-type killings where the killer ‘played games’ with LE before — does anyone know of any? The level of bravado this suspect is displaying and the way he is taunting LE seems like a quite a departure from ‘typical’ assassination-type killings. It makes me think BT’s murder was just a way for him to convey his message, as opposed to being solely motivated by revenge. MOO.

Not really as far as assassinations go, but serial killers, yes.

Son of Sam sending those “teasing” letters to LE and Jimmy Breslin, the Zodiac Killer with his taunting letters…bravado and gamesmanship.

But nothing is coming to mind similar to this. A one and done (hopefully) killer.

Most serial killers eventually get caught because they repeat their crimes. (Not the Zodiac, though).

This guy seems to have done the job and vanished.

If he doesn’t do another murder like this, we may never find out his identity or his motive.

JMO

 

[99cats]

Another thought about people supporting this murderer simply because of who he killed...

Well when the copy cat crimes start because people think they will get this same level of notoriety, I hope the target isn't anyone closer to home. What if it's someone you (hypothetical you) know and love that is targeted because their job doesn't align with someone else's idea of how things should go?

Right. Like what if a doctor refuses a treatment the patient sees as necessary? Will they now feel empowered to "take revenge"? What if a store is selling items you don't agree with? What if someone writes something you feel is questionable on the internet? etc. It's a slippery slope.

 

[wibbleflea]

I was just thinking...other than the explanation that POI is a foreign national, does greater New York area have any insular cultural or ethnic groups where someone brought up in such a community, or with at least one foot still in the community, would not have a strong online presence or digital trail? And thus would be less concerned with being recognized?

This is a good angle.

 

[Inthedetails]

Right. Like what if a doctor refuses a treatment the patient sees as necessary? Will they now feel empowered to "take revenge"? What if a store is selling items you don't agree with? What if someone writes something you feel is questionable on the internet? etc. It's a slippery slope.

^^This^^

 

[heykiki831]

Someone with extensive experience with guns probably wouldn’t have hit someone in the leg…then again they wouldn’t have access to a silencer.

I wonder if it was factory loaded ammo or hand loaded. Also, have they hey said anything what the firearm malfunction was? Was it simply a jam, or was it a misfire? If he left a message on his bullets it seems like maybe he was motivated to spend the ammunition…overkill would leave more casings with his messages…just shooting the breeze here. Thanks all.

 

[Chili Fries]

the monopoly money is very interesting, and it confirms that this guy is leaving clues behind intentionally.

I think it's likely but there's still the possibility that he simply played monopoly with somebody, maybe at the hostel. Reports are that he buried the backpack in the park so it seems unclear as to whether he expected the backpack to be found or not.

 

[MassGuy]

Not really as far as assassinations go, but serial killers, yes.

Son of Sam sending those “teasing” letters to LE and Jimmy Breslin, the Zodiac Killer with his taunting letters…bravado and gamesmanship.

But nothing is coming to mind similar to this. A one and done (hopefully) killer.

Most serial killers eventually get caught because they repeat their crimes. (Not the Zodiac, though).

This guy seems to have done the job and vanished.

If he doesn’t do another murder like this, we may never find out his identity or his motive.

JMO

They have his DNA. Worst case scenario is they use genetic genealogy down the road.

I’d be surprised if he wasn’t already under surveillance. I think Adams tipped his hand, and the attempt to walk it back was because he pissed of the NYPD.

 

[arielilane]

Been going over past thread and read about the Monopoly money. Posting link.


The backpack recovered by the NYPD that allegedly belonged to the suspect wanted in the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, only had two items inside: a Tommy Hilfiger jacket and Monopoly money, sources with knowledge of the ongoing investigation told ABC News Saturday.

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Suspect's backpack had Monopoly money: Sources

The manhunt for the suspect who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has now entered its fourth day as authorities learn more about his movements before the attack.

abcnews.go.com

12/7/2024

 

[Friday Fan]

It's a strange added element, as you see that sort of thing with serial killers and domestic terrorists (symbolism and taunting), but not with assassins.

Is this an assassination or act of domestic terrorism? I tend to think it's more in line with the unabomber. Killing because of a corporation's stance. If someone asked me who the CEO of UHC was, I could not tell you his name.

 

[penguinface]

Reminds me of Bonnie & Clyde. People remember them as good-looking, wild and romantic bank robbers and prison escapees. 20,000 people attended Bonnie's funeral, and they have movies, musicals, songs and books enshrining them as folk heroes.

They actually murdered 12 people, though! That's horrible. But somehow their crime spree spoke to the zeitgeist of desperate people during the Depression enough that popular culture and history have been willing to overlook that.

It's an interesting and baffling phenomenon in social psychology, that's for sure!

Similar phenomenon with the Kray twins in the UK.

 

[Vegasgrl]

One thing about the lack of gloves: He probably doesn't have a criminal record.

Or any job or activity that requires fingerprints. I was recently fingerprinted again because I helped out at the polls during the election.

 

[vls12345]

It's a strange added element, as you see that sort of thing with serial killers and domestic terrorists (symbolism and taunting), but not with assassins.

Maybe he sees himself/his actions as being domestic terrorism or serial killing in that he could be planning more? If he's backed by or from a specific group, maybe they are planning more? Like he or they have the world's attention now & maybe plan to continue/escalate from here? (I have no idea what that might look like, if he/they would confine it to a particular company, or industry, or businesses in general, or businesses perceived as monopolies, etc.) Or maybe he/they won't be able to carry out more but the initial plan was to continue with other victims (hence leaving a calling card like Monopoly money).

Just musing aloud.

 

[thefragile7393]

Is this an assassination or act of domestic terrorism? I tend to think it's more in line with the unabomber. Killing because of a corporation's stance. If someone asked me who the CEO of UHC was, I could not tell you his name.

Assassination unless we see more high profile insurance executives gunned down. If you don't have a vendetta against a particular hospital system or insurance company then no, you aren't going to care who the CEOs are

 

[arielilane]

the monopoly money is very interesting, and it confirms that this guy is leaving clues behind intentionally.

Any thoughts on Tommy Hilfiger jacket? Anyone? TIA

 

[MassGuy]

Someone with extensive experience with guns probably wouldn’t have hit someone in the leg…then again they wouldn’t have access to a silencer.

I wonder if it was factory loaded ammo or hand loaded. Also, have they hey said anything what the firearm malfunction was? Was it simply a jam, or was it a misfire? If he left a message on his bullets it seems like maybe he was motivated to spend the ammunition…overkill would leave more casings with his messages…just shooting the breeze here. Thanks all.

There was an expert breaking this down on CNN last night. He said that the first two shots were fired without a problem, and the jam occurred subsequent to that. If I heard correctly, because this gun needs to be racked before each shot (or whatever the mechanism is with this firearm design), it is prone to jam if it isn't done hard enough. They recovered 6 rounds (3 spent and 3 unspent), and 3 of them had words on them. For that reason, I believe he planned on firing 3 rounds, and there are 6 there only because of the jams.

So the first 2 rounds (spent) would have the markings, and the first jammed round (unspent) would have a marking.

 

[thefragile7393]

Any thoughts on Tommy Hilfiger jacket? Anyone? TIA

Probably a random jacket he had IMO. No special significance to the case

 

[Warwick7]

I think this is it, and the Monopoly money was the money that’s “owed” for the medical debt.

This is exactly my thoughts!

 

[Inthedetails]

Any thoughts on Tommy Hilfiger jacket? Anyone? TIA

American designer. From New York State.

jmo