NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #6

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  • #721
So you’re saying if he lived it wouldn’t matter because he got those three bullets out there?
He wasn’t going to live with those 2 shots to his chest through the back.
 
  • #722
  • #723
I mean, maybe a serial number could tell you if it was stolen but only if it was registered. The other info feels moot to me.
Serial could tell you what store the bike was shipped to by the manufacturer. You could then find the subject and form of payment and go from there.

JMO
 
  • #724
If they don't find it, it may lend credence to the theory that he may have had an accomplice or identify where he purchased or rented the bike?
Occam’s razor says some unrelated person took the unattended bike. Stole it.
 
  • #725
I feel like a disgruntled user hasn’t been quiet about why he’s disgruntled. So they may have to sift through upset patients and see where it leads.
sbm

with all the reactions i’ve been seeing online, i think sifting through all the upset patients seems like an impossible task!
 
  • #726
If they don't find it, it may lend credence to the theory that he may have had an accomplice or identify where he purchased or rented the bike?
I like the theory that he parked it unlocked in a spot that made it very enticing for someone to steal.
 
  • #727
The shooter couldn’t have known that for sure.
Not sure what you are implying? Are you saying a single headshot from far would have sealed his death for sure? The torso has a lot more surface area than the head and is therefore easier to target. Plus the torso has the heart and lungs - fatal if those are hit.
 
  • #728
How many bullets would he have had without reloading? Did he empty the gun?
 
  • #729
Not unusual -Steve Jobs had no security, Bill Gates who gets an incredible amount of social media hate doesn’t, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg don’t have bodyguards either and they are far higher profile than BT

Steve Jobs may have been an exception or perhaps had undercover security that wasn’t publicly disclosed. Regardless, most high-profile individuals have security teams—some highly visible, while others operate discreetly.

Elon Musk now travels with up to 20 bodyguards who refer to him by the code name 'Voyager,' report says​


Billionaire Bill Gates is seen with three bodyguards as he exits the Australian Museum before meeting the Prime Minister​


"Bezos's entourage of security personnel can seem overwhelming even to people used to an entourage.

When Bezos was on set for his cameo in "Star Trek Beyond," actor Chris Pine said, "I was there for the bit with his, like, nine bodyguards and three limos. It was really intense."


Meta spent $43 million on Mark Zuckerberg's personal security in 3 years: Report​

 
  • #730
I don’t think so. What would be the point to set up his own murder even if he’s under investigation etc.?
What if it weren't a kill. He could be in hosp. Gruesomely wounded for life.
 
  • #731
He wasn’t going to live with those 2 shots to his chest through the back.
People have survived being shot multiple times with things far more devastating than 9mm FMJ bullets. Those bullets don't do much damage beyond the permanent wound channel and you have a pretty good chance of living as long as no vital organs or vessels are hit.
 
  • #732
Er, pls don't throw rocks at an elderly (but spry) lady, what is an e bike and how are they so easy to access at a moments notice in busy nyc?

Ppl reaĺly carry batteries around? How large?
 
  • #733
What if it weren't a kill. He could be in hosp. Gruesomely wounded for life.
I’m not sure what you mean? I may need more coffee
 
  • #734
Underthinking, overthinking. Was this an indictment of an industry, a corporation, one particular individual? I do believe the killer will be caught, dead or alive. I’ll also add in the possibility of a young person who was slated to lose his job in the upcoming December lay-offs.
 
  • #735
Steve Jobs may have been an exception or perhaps had undercover security that wasn’t publicly disclosed. Regardless, most high-profile individuals have security teams—some highly visible, while others operate discreetly.

Elon Musk now travels with up to 20 bodyguards who refer to him by the code name 'Voyager,' report says​


Billionaire Bill Gates is seen with three bodyguards as he exits the Australian Museum before meeting the Prime Minister​


"Bezos's entourage of security personnel can seem overwhelming even to people used to an entourage.

When Bezos was on set for his cameo in "Star Trek Beyond," actor Chris Pine said, "I was there for the bit with his, like, nine bodyguards and three limos. It was really intense."


Meta spent $43 million on Mark Zuckerberg's personal security in 3 years: Report​

it's just not unusual for a C-suite executive to walk a city block without security. the people around him would probably call him paranoid if he demanded a security detail for such a walk.
 
  • #736
So let's say he set it set it up, why go to NY for 10 days in advance? If BT set it up, why not just set it up in MN? Why would he set up his own murder?
Hitman may be from outside the US. Chance to go visit NYC for a bit because he knew as soon as he did his hit job, he would have to bolt ASAP. BT set it up because he knew he was being investigated for insider trading. He had cashed in millions of $$. Afraid his boys would be left with nothing if government siezed the money. Plus he did not want to go to jail again (DUI years ago). Plus he did not want the shame of his boys knowing he did something illegal. He was hoping he could set it up that it looked like someone disgruntled with the insurance industry. And did not want to do it in Minnesota where he knew his wife and sons would be too close, possibly end up having to show up at crime scene. NYC gave him a buffer of them not seeing crime scene as well as no one they knew would be involved in crime scene: paramedics, police officers, etc. I think he hired someone from out of the country, which is why no one seems to know who this guy. Even his fingerprints and DNA have not been found in police database. Hitman casually went to Starbucks right before hit. Not concerned at all about missing BT. BT put on a bright blue jacket that morning. I think he called hitman and said "Okay, I'm walking out of hotel in five minutes with bright blue jacket on." I believe BT walked out of hotel and shooter came from BEHIND and shot him. He didn't see this guy from the front. He KNEW this was the guy without seeing his face. It was the jacket. No one would know what BT was wearing that morning except for BT. Hitman literally got to the hiding spot by the SUV five minutes before BT walked out the door. BT did not have an overcoat. No laptop bag. No briefcase. BT knew he did not need those that morning. A 50 year old CEO does not go to an out of town conference without a laptop. Period.
 
  • #737
Serial could tell you what store the bike was shipped to by the manufacturer. You could then find the subject and form of payment and go from there.

JMO
Maybe, maybe not. With a bike it could be different because there aren’t hundreds of thousands made. But the idea of there being a huge log of serial numbers somewhere is not really realistic.
 
  • #738
Steve Jobs may have been an exception or perhaps had undercover security that wasn’t publicly disclosed. Regardless, most high-profile individuals have security teams—some highly visible, while others operate discreetly.

Elon Musk now travels with up to 20 bodyguards who refer to him by the code name 'Voyager,' report says​


Billionaire Bill Gates is seen with three bodyguards as he exits the Australian Museum before meeting the Prime Minister​


"Bezos's entourage of security personnel can seem overwhelming even to people used to an entourage.

When Bezos was on set for his cameo in "Star Trek Beyond," actor Chris Pine said, "I was there for the bit with his, like, nine bodyguards and three limos. It was really intense."


Meta spent $43 million on Mark Zuckerberg's personal security in 3 years: Report​

I think that the main reason for body guards isn't necessarily assassination attempts but rather the risk of kidnapping for ransom.

If you want to kill someone then shooting them is pretty easy if no one knows you're there. Donald Trump is only alive because the two people who had a go at him (that we know of) were totally incompetent. His Secret Service bodyguards and all of the local police force had no effect on someone shooting at him.
 
  • #739
Er, pls don't throw rocks at an elderly (but spry) lady, what is an e bike and how are they so easy to access at a moments notice in busy nyc?

Ppl reaĺly carry batteries around? How large?

Electric
 
  • #740
Serial could tell you what store the bike was shipped to by the manufacturer. You could then find the subject and form of payment and go from there.

JMO
Just saying....local bike shops sell used bikes, bikes pieced together from other bikes, bike parts, bikes that, um, "fell off the truck," as well as distribute new from manufacturer. It is a cash business in many instances, in my experience, without necessarily a paper trail.

But, yes, finding the bike could yield useful info about the perp.

jmo
 
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