4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #101

[Sweeper2000]

is there a known connection to the victims? from a post upthread it sounds like a no and perhaps a chance encounter that he obsessed over.

 

[iamshadow21]

is there a known connection to the victims? from a post upthread it sounds like a no and perhaps a chance encounter that he obsessed over.

Not that we know about, or has been stated publicly by investigators.

There's a possibility of a passing encounter, but there's also the strong possibility that this home and these victims were targeted because they fit the perpetrator's fantasy, somehow, and he'd never actually met or interacted with them in any way before he murdered them.

MOO

 

[schooling]

Not sure what you mean by "bite the bullet." AT is a skilled DP-qualified lawyer. Are you suggesting she should give up defending BK? I'm confused. Of course, a defense attorney would prefer the client get off but if that's not possible, lessening punishment is thought important, especially in a DP case.
MOO

For as much flack as she tends to get from casual MMQB observers (like me) AT has been doing a great job for BK.

She’s constantly trying to reduce the scope of things she has to deal with at trial and thus evening the lopsided odds. Questioning the admissibility of every piece of evidence, and laying the ground work for avenues of appeal.

Some of the filings and arguments are moonshots, for sure. But I don’t see how BK gets any better defense than what she’s providing. He’s extremely lucky.

While I dont believe that there’s even a 1% chance he’s found Not Guilty. She’s his best chance at mistrial via 1 holdout (however unlikely, though he would SURELY be retried until they got the verdict they wanted) or being found guilty and avoiding the DP.

MOO

 

[Sweeper2000]

Not that we know about, or has been stated publicly by investigators.

There's a possibility of a passing encounter, but there's also the strong possibility that this home and these victims were targeted because they fit the perpetrator's fantasy, somehow, and he'd never actually met or interacted with them in any way before he murdered them.

MOO

any reason why they would withhold that? if there was.

not sure about his past but he seems like a bit of a reject? that house was party central as well right, so mr reject targets the popular crew.

 

[iamshadow21]

any reason why they would withhold that? if there was.

not sure about his past but he seems like a bit of a reject? that house was party central as well right, so mr reject targets the popular crew.

There has been a non dissemination order in place since very early days of this case. Virtually everything we know has come from what court records or hearings are public or only redacted rather than sealed.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

For as much flack as she tends to get from casual MMQB observers (like me) AT has been doing a great job for BK.

She’s constantly trying to reduce the scope of things she has to deal with at trial and thus evening the lopsided odds. Questioning the admissibility of every piece of evidence, and laying the ground work for avenues of appeal.

Some of the filings and arguments are moonshots, for sure. But I don’t see how BK gets any better defense than what she’s providing. He’s extremely lucky.

While I dont believe that there’s even a 1% chance he’s found Not Guilty. She’s his best chance at mistrial via 1 holdout (however unlikely, though he would SURELY be retried until they got the verdict they wanted) or being found guilty and avoiding the DP.

MOO

Absolutely agree 110%. It's AT's job (which she is well above par) and BK's Constitutional right, which I can respect even though I think he is a brooding, budding, wannabe SK psycho.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I really really miss the laugh emoji.

Me too @MeadowMuffin

 

[Balthazar]

sounds like fr her health she should quit. its not biting a bullet its chowing a cannonball. Any info on what his family position is? the way one of the article reads they were thought to have suspicions.

His father allegedly told LE that BK didn't have it in him to kill anyone. His family made one public statement supporting him and said very kind and thoughtful things about the victims. Other than gossip and a likely false stories that the sister accused BK of this, that has been all they have said. Other than that, they have been quite private. AT has said they are strong and standing behind BK and have strong faith he will be exonerated.

“First and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children,” Kohberger’s father Michael Kohberger, mother Marianne Kohberger and sister Amanda said in a statement released to People through Kohberger’s Pennsylvania attorney. “There are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them.”

The family also voiced their continued support for Kohberger.

“We will continue to let the legal process unfold and as a family we will love and support our son and brother,” they wrote. “We have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions.”

‘There Are No Words’: Family Of Suspect In Idaho Murders Breaks Silence After Arrest | Oxygen

The family of a man accused of brutally killing four University of Idaho college students is speaking out after his arrest last week. Bryan Kohberger — a 28-year-old doctoral student attending the nearby Washington State University — was taken into custody Friday morning at his parents’...

www.oxygen.com

 

[MassGuy]

His father allegedly told LE that BK didn't have it in him to kill anyone. His family made one public statement supporting him and said very kind and thoughtful things about the victims. Other than gossip and a likely false stories that the sister accused BK of this, that has been all they have said. Other than that, they have been quite private. AT has said they are strong and standing behind BK and have strong faith he will be exonerated.

“First and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children,” Kohberger’s father Michael Kohberger, mother Marianne Kohberger and sister Amanda said in a statement released to People through Kohberger’s Pennsylvania attorney. “There are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them.”

The family also voiced their continued support for Kohberger.

“We will continue to let the legal process unfold and as a family we will love and support our son and brother,” they wrote. “We have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions.”

‘There Are No Words’: Family Of Suspect In Idaho Murders Breaks Silence After Arrest | Oxygen

The family of a man accused of brutally killing four University of Idaho college students is speaking out after his arrest last week. Bryan Kohberger — a 28-year-old doctoral student attending the nearby Washington State University — was taken into custody Friday morning at his parents’...

www.oxygen.com

Basically they are saying exactly what they should say, and what you'd expect them to say. I can't imagine Dateline didn't use rock solid sources when they painted a completely different picture of the family's suspicions. His father allegedly not believing his involvement was consistent with this statement though.

Sources told NBC’s Dateline that one of the accused killer’s older siblings grew increasingly suspicious of her brother and his behaviour when the family gathered to spend the holidays together.

Her suspicions were so great that – at one point – several family members searched Mr Kohberger’s white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the crime, they said.

But, during his time at home, his family members noticed that he was behaving somewhat bizarrely.

The source said that Mr Kohberger was constantly wearing latex gloves, including inside their own home.

One of his two older sisters began to wonder if he could have played a part in the murders – and, at one point, she raised her concerns with her other family members.

She “loudly pointed out” that, at the time of the murders, her brother was living just a few miles from the crime scene and that he drove a white Hyundai Elantra – the make and colour of vehicle at the centre of the investigation.

Along with his bizarre tendency to wear latex gloves at all time, she believed that the family should consider that Mr Kohberger might have killed the four victims, the source said.

Mr Kohberger’s father allegedly defended his son and insisted he could not have been involved.

But the concerns were clearly big enough for several of the family members to reportedly decide to search the 28-year-old’s vehicle to look for possible evidence.

Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared he was involved in Idaho murders

Sources told NBC’s Dateline that the accused killer’s family searched his white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the Idaho college murders

www.the-independent.com

 

[Sweeper2000]

His father allegedly told LE that BK didn't have it in him to kill anyone. His family made one public statement supporting him and said very kind and thoughtful things about the victims. Other than gossip and a likely false stories that the sister accused BK of this, that has been all they have said. Other than that, they have been quite private. AT has said they are strong and standing behind BK and have strong faith he will be exonerated.

“First and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children,” Kohberger’s father Michael Kohberger, mother Marianne Kohberger and sister Amanda said in a statement released to People through Kohberger’s Pennsylvania attorney. “There are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them.”

The family also voiced their continued support for Kohberger.

“We will continue to let the legal process unfold and as a family we will love and support our son and brother,” they wrote. “We have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions.”

‘There Are No Words’: Family Of Suspect In Idaho Murders Breaks Silence After Arrest | Oxygen

The family of a man accused of brutally killing four University of Idaho college students is speaking out after his arrest last week. Bryan Kohberger — a 28-year-old doctoral student attending the nearby Washington State University — was taken into custody Friday morning at his parents’...

www.oxygen.com

not sure if you have seen this article but what I read was taken from it assuming this was the original media publishing that info. however yes the article states "the source" could be anything couldnt it? and no further word from the sister on this info to certify.

Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared he was involved in Idaho murders

Sources told NBC’s Dateline that the accused killer’s family searched his white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the Idaho college murders

www.independent.co.uk

heres another of a similar vein.

New book makes bone-chilling revelations about Bryan Kohberger’s real target in University of Idaho murders

A bone-chilling new book claims to reveal the true target of the infamous University of Idaho murders – and unravels how suspect Bryan Kohberger’s family allegedly grew suspicious of him before his…

nypost.com

interesting point to raise though, why was dad with bk when they got stopped that in that semi famous video ? i presume that is the electra in the evidence as well? but yeh your piece seems to rule it out.

 

[Balthazar]

not sure if you have seen this article but what I read was taken from it assuming this was the original media publishing that info. however yes the article states "the source" could be anything couldnt it? and no further word from the sister on this info to certify.

Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared he was involved in Idaho murders

Sources told NBC’s Dateline that the accused killer’s family searched his white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the Idaho college murders

www.independent.co.uk

heres another of a similar vein.

New book makes bone-chilling revelations about Bryan Kohberger’s real target in University of Idaho murders

A bone-chilling new book claims to reveal the true target of the infamous University of Idaho murders – and unravels how suspect Bryan Kohberger’s family allegedly grew suspicious of him before his…

nypost.com

interesting point to raise though, why was dad with bk when they got stopped that in that semi famous video ? i presume that is the electra in the evidence as well? but yeh your piece seems to rule it out.

It is a long multi-day drive from Washington State back to Pennsylvania. It is not unusual for parents to fly to where their kids are in school and drive back home with them for the holidays. I know of 4 families who did the same thing last Christmas with their grad student adult children who are scattered around the country. JMO.

BTW, BK's car was a 2015 white Elantra, not Electra. I personally, have some serious doubts as to whether that is his car on the Linda Lane videos or the photo from the convenience shop as those vehicles appear to have tinted windows, whereas BK's car plainly doesn't in the videos of LE stops on the way back from Washington to Pennsylvania. Also one of the vehicles on Linda Lane has a sunroof, which BK's car does not - but I don't think that one is an Elantra. There are some other vehicles of interest and odd activities in the Linda Lane videos around the time of the murders. JMO.

We'll learn more when this finally goes to trial, I hope.

 

[LinasK]

is there a known connection to the victims? from a post upthread it sounds like a no and perhaps a chance encounter that he obsessed over.

I strongly think that there is a connection to at least one of the victims. It will come out.

 

[arielilane]

Ada County clerks stay busy:

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665 / Latah County CR29-22-2805

Case Summary (Updated 03/03/25)

• 03/03/2025 Order Regarding Sealing or Redacting Filings
• 03/03/2025 Order Sealing Defendants Unredacted Motion in Limine 5 and Motion in Limine 14
• 03/03/2025 Order Sealing Defendants Exhibits in Support of their Motions in Limine
• 03/03/2025 Order Sealing Exhibits iso Motion to Strike Death Penalty RE Autism Spectrum Disorder

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

JUDGE
Hippler, Steven


COUNTY
Boise, Ada, Elmore, Valley

COURT
District

DISTRICT
4

YOUTUBE CHANNEL
Watch

 

[MassGuy]

An absolute boatload of motions in limine just dropped. We're going to have a lot to talk about.

• NewStates Motion in Limine RE ATT Timing Advance Records
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Immediate Family Members in Courtroom
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Improper Death Penalty Comments
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Investigative Genetic Geneology
• NewStates Motion to Seal Motions in Limine and Exhibits to Motions in Limine
• NewMotion to Exceed Page Limit
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #1 RE Inflammatory Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #2 RE Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #3 RE Use of the Term Murder
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #4 RE Using the Terms Psychopath or Sociopath
• NewDefence Motion in Limine #5 RE Inconclusive Data
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #6 RE Rylene Nowlin and Reference to Touch and Contact DNA
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #7 RE Witness Identification by Bushy Eyebrows
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #8 RE Unnoticed 404b Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #9 RE Excluding Amazon Click Activity Evidence at Trial
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #10 RE Improper Expert Opinion Testimony - Mittelman
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #11 RE Exclude IGG Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #12 RE Make and Model of Suspect Vehicle
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #13 RE Conditions as Aggravator
• NewDefence Motion in Limine #14 RE Statistical Anaylsis
• NewMotion to File Motion in Limine #5 and Motion in Limine #14
• NewMotion to Strike Death Penalty RE Autism Spectrum Disorder
• NewStipulated Agreement of the Parties Regarding Investigators in the Courtroom During Trial
• NewStipulated Motion to File Defendants Exhibits in Support of their Motions in Limine Under Seal
• NewStipulated Motion to File Defendant's Exhibits in Support of Their Motion to Strike Death Penalty
• NewMotion Sealing the Parties Stipulated

 

[MassGuy]

Did we know this before?

Interviews on November 13, 2022. On November 13, 2022, D.M. was inside the house when the murders occurred and saw a figure dressed in black (hereinafter “intruder”) when she peeked out her bedroom door around 4:00 a.m. Shortly after seeing the intruder, she went downstairs to Bethany Funke’s room. The two girls fell asleep. Roughly 8 hours later, a 911 call was made from Bethany’s phone at 11:56 a.m.
Motion in Limine #7

 

[SteveP]

Did we know this before?

Interviews on November 13, 2022. On November 13, 2022, D.M. was inside the house when the murders occurred and saw a figure dressed in black (hereinafter “intruder”) when she peeked out her bedroom door around 4:00 a.m. Shortly after seeing the intruder, she went downstairs to Bethany Funke’s room. The two girls fell asleep. Roughly 8 hours later, a 911 call was made from Bethany’s phone at 11:56 a.m.

Motion in Limine #7

Not sure if you are asking about one specific aspect of this, but I do remember this being reported, at some point early on, pretty much as stated here. I do not believe the call was supposedly made by BF, but was made, IIRC, by someone else, using her phone. JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Did we know this before?

Interviews on November 13, 2022. On November 13, 2022, D.M. was inside the house when the murders occurred and saw a figure dressed in black (hereinafter “intruder”) when she peeked out her bedroom door around 4:00 a.m. Shortly after seeing the intruder, she went downstairs to Bethany Funke’s room. The two girls fell asleep. Roughly 8 hours later, a 911 call was made from Bethany’s phone at 11:56 a.m.

Motion in Limine #7

We didn’t know this as a fact. This was among the early rumors, I feel like someone in LE stated it was untrue when asked.

 

[fcavanaugh]

IMO, one of many things I find so strange/suspect in this case is what BK allegedly said while LE was in process of arresting him in PA.

Instead of asking LE but why am I being arrested officers???? and/or after being told why, he didn’t (loudly) protest no! I didn’t kill anyone, you’ve got the wrong guy!! as imo an innocent person likely would, instead BK asked LE- if anyone else had been arrested. ???!!…

The cops bust into your parents home in the middle of the night to arrest you for the brutal murder of 4 individuals and that’s the first thing or one of the first things you ask/say to the cops???!! Not only bizarre but also, very telling. IMO.

IMO an 100% innocent person would fiercely and angrily protest no! I’m innocent/had nothing to do with it!!

As I see it, this alleged first response/question of BK while or just after being arrested implies guilty knowledge/complicity, at the very, very least. IMO.

I have always thought BK to be a lone wolf, but do you think it’s at all possible/plausible he had an accomplice and was wondering if LE had got to them yet and that’s why he asked if anyone else had been arrested? Or possibly thought maybe someone in his family might have been arrested? I mean he was literally in the family home at the time he was arrested so wouldn’t he already know if any of his family members were being/had been arrested?
And why would he think any of his family members had been arrested anyways? Maybe BK thought possible his Father had been arrested? If so, for what reason would BK think that?
Did he think maybe the cops had arrested his Father for accompanying him home from WA to PA and that maybe the cops thought Dad knew something about what BK did and/or he thought LE may have thought his Father aided BK in some way post crime? (I want to emphasize that I’m not saying I think BK’s Father did anything wrong or knew anything about the murders or aided BK in any way absolutely not. I’m just thinking about possible reasons BK might have thought his Father might have been arrested).

Or do you think it’s possible BK was just messing with the cops implying someone else helped because he thought they found something on him during the initial stages of investigation (the arrest took place over a month after the murders even though they didn’t have his name until Dec.19th, he wouldn’t have known that when they arrested him) but thought they wouldn’t be able to prove he did the actual killings and wanted LE to think someone else/an accomplice did the murders?

I mean accomplice being involved is way down on my list personally because I think LE would have sussed them out by now, but now I’m wondering about another possibility, that is if BK maybe wanted the cops to think perhaps he had an accomplice and that he wasn’t or wouldn’t turn them in after being arrested, just to mess with them.
Idk but I can picture him saying/asking the cops something like that if he thought LE already had something on him, to mess with them and try to blame it on some non-existent accomplice that he’d never give up name of. IMO.

‘Has anyone else been arrested?’
Is this the first thing an 100% innocent, framed/set-up, railroaded individual is going to say upon arrest of 4 brutal murders ?????
I say no absolutely not and tend to believe the reporting that that was the first or one of the first things he said as he was or just after being arrested. Because if he did ask them why am I being arrested?????? like he had no clue, and/or protested and said no! I’m innocent/not responsible for murdering four people! we would have heard about it in the reporting as it’s a pretty important thing if he protested and said he was innocent because again, an innocent person accused of committing this type of crime if truly 100% innocent would be angry and stand up for themselves right away and say something like no, no, no! it wasn’t me!! You got the wrong guy etc. etc.

Apologies for the long, rambling post and if this was already discussed I probably missed it and it doesn’t hurt to revisit things while waiting for more movement in a case.

Basically, makes zero sense to me and is one of the things that makes me side eye ‘ole BK even more when it’s added together with all the other incriminating circumstances pointing to his guilt.

IMHOO

Source: Kohberger asked if there were other arrests | NewsNation Live

NewsNation's @BrianEntin says he was told by a source that when Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger was arrested, he allegedly asked "if anyone else was arrested." Watch live: www.newsnationnow.com/joinus

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[Megnut]

An absolute boatload of motions in limine just dropped. We're going to have a lot to talk about.

• NewStates Motion in Limine RE ATT Timing Advance Records
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Immediate Family Members in Courtroom
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Improper Death Penalty Comments
• NewStates Motion in Limine RE Investigative Genetic Geneology
• NewStates Motion to Seal Motions in Limine and Exhibits to Motions in Limine
• NewMotion to Exceed Page Limit
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #1 RE Inflammatory Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #2 RE Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #3 RE Use of the Term Murder
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #4 RE Using the Terms Psychopath or Sociopath
• NewDefence Motion in Limine #5 RE Inconclusive Data
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #6 RE Rylene Nowlin and Reference to Touch and Contact DNA
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #7 RE Witness Identification by Bushy Eyebrows
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #8 RE Unnoticed 404b Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #9 RE Excluding Amazon Click Activity Evidence at Trial
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #10 RE Improper Expert Opinion Testimony - Mittelman
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #11 RE Exclude IGG Evidence
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #12 RE Make and Model of Suspect Vehicle
• NewDefense Motion in Limine #13 RE Conditions as Aggravator
• NewDefence Motion in Limine #14 RE Statistical Anaylsis
• NewMotion to File Motion in Limine #5 and Motion in Limine #14
• NewMotion to Strike Death Penalty RE Autism Spectrum Disorder
• NewStipulated Agreement of the Parties Regarding Investigators in the Courtroom During Trial
• NewStipulated Motion to File Defendants Exhibits in Support of their Motions in Limine Under Seal
• NewStipulated Motion to File Defendant's Exhibits in Support of Their Motion to Strike Death Penalty
• NewMotion Sealing the Parties Stipulated

RE motion in limine #1 RE Inflammatory Evidence

This steams me. BK wants to limit the jury's exposure to gruesome crime scenes -- because juries exposed to them are likely to convict and it's too prejudicial.

Maybe he should have thought of that BEFORE he decided to slaughter four people.

This is the crime he's accused of. I feel for the jury who will be traumatized by what they can never unsee but he shouldn't get to hide what he did.

JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Wow this is a lot. DM’s story is mind blowing. And did we know for sure before today that BK was on the spectrum?