4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #101

[arielilane]

CR01-24-31665 Ada State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/Summary/Current-Case-Summary.pdf

 

[Megnut]

30m

 

[al66pine]

This MiL* covers a lotta ground including bank a/c, CU a/c, credit cards, etc. records.
Totally predictable.

This was unexpected imo: "Foris DAX (Crypto.com) financial records" for BK.**

Was BK trading crypto currencies? (Ready to be the next Sam Bankman-Fried? : ) JK )
Or just exchanging some USD$ to crypto & using it to pay, say for online purchases?i
Or something else?

______________________
*MiL

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/022425-REDACTED-Motion-inLimine-RE-911-Call.pdf

** Crypto.com
"cryptocurrency exchange company based in Singapore that offers various financial services, including an app, exchange, and noncustodial DeFi wallet, NFT marketplace, and direct payment service in cryptocurrency." and "80 million users as of June 2023."
"... operate as a payment and virtual asset service provider."

Crypto.com - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Foris DAX, Inc. Money Transmitter Licenses (NMLS ID 1966158)"
shows co. is licensed as a money transferer in nearly every state, including PA. & WA.
Also holds "Consumer Lending Licenses (NMLS ID 2256318) in several states.

Privacy Notices | Crypto.com

View all Privacy Notices from Crypto.com, detailing how we collect, use, and protect your personal information. Stay informed about our commitment to privacy and data protection

crypto.com

 

[schooling]

After watching some of the recent findings (I think) on CourtTV today, I wonder how credible the surviving housemate will be considering she admitted to being drunk when she woke up to see the killer and his "bushy eyebrows" yet seemed to have a fascination with eyebrows according to her drawings that were found on her walls. This is definitely not me shaming or blaming. Just a matter of fact from what I heard that if her testimony will be accepted or if she will be hammered by the defense.

It's not like her intoxication led to her imagining the murders or messing up the timeline (by all collective indicators, IMO). I think BK's eyebrows are distinct enough that the jury will believe her regardless of her state.

Plus, IMO, if the jury chooses to dismiss her testimony all of the evidence still points at one person.

 

[arielilane]

@BrianEntin


Text messages between Idaho surviving roommates released as part of latest Bryan Kohberger document dump.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897811001384350011

 

[schooling]

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/fixed-blade-knives-multi-tools-3532-201686?srsltid=AfmBOoq1t6Glj47KGWolfIQWUjGXqysMNBMyMxYeRcaWle2ddiTQsoAK

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/a/knife-with-sheath-0rtz06b.html?srsltid=AfmBOopp9lg3PB2qFD23qQgnoU3wpzeIWw8Bvri-1hgTCasfqffh0UHT

I know he bought the ka bar knife from amazon but they are there. as well as

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/face-masks-balaclava?srsltid=AfmBOoqi6_7PkQhDT7D0XMfD236Mn42_X4ddQQT-6hm-RxLnXMFjnQV6

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/face-masks-gaiters?srsltid=AfmBOoqeC2cmuXliFf42LMrWJnrpkTgMh6Re-HAbiQcoza4u11Y06QDq

can't access the website from here in the UK. so cant get specifix assuming they still sell the one the witness saw.

I fully believe Dateline's reporting that LE has evidence that BK purchased a knife. I'll go as far to say, IMO, he checked out of Amazon on March 30th 2022 with the knife and/or a sheath. And now we know for sure that his viewing history is likely highly incriminating and adds nefarious context to what would otherwise be a defendable knife purchase (he likes to hunt, he's a collector etc).

MOO

 

[AcousticViper]

she woke up to see the killer and his "bushy eyebrows" yet seemed to have a fascination with eyebrows according to her drawings that were found on her walls.

People like drawing eyes (eyelashes, eyebrows), hands, and other features to sharpen their art skills. It's not in Anne Taylor's interest to mention other drawings pinned to DM's wall. She's trying to paint a picture of a girl singularly obsessed with eyebrows in order to discredit her testimony.

 

[fcavanaugh]

It's getting real now.

The fear

It's palpable.

It really is, I so agree Meg. Those poor young people/victims. Going from seemingly living and enjoying life to its fullest one day, to four young adult lives ended brutally by a madman and two left having to deal with the aftermath/trauma, the next. Unfathomable.

I think there are many reasons the roommates DM & BF didn’t call 911 sooner which have already been mentioned by others like fear, shock, fatigue, effects of alcohol, unsure/ not wanting to believe what they were seeing/feeling etc.

IMO, similar to not every killer or suspected killer, or family of a missing person acts/does the same or how some might expect them to post crime/murder or disappearance, imo neither do all spared victims or witnesses acts/does the same or how others might expect them to post crime/murder.

Again, this was a brutal ambush/blitz attack and it’s clear to me from the text messages that were just revealed between DM and BF, the 2 young ladies’ were frightened/scared out of their wits that fateful early morning, reasonably and understandably so.
IMO we will receive more clarity about why they didn’t call 911 sooner from DM & BF testimony
at future trial.

I hope DM & BF are receiving loving support and seek extra support/counseling for trauma and/or any survivors guilt they may be experiencing. Perhaps they already have and good on them if so.

My heart goes out to DM & BF,
the families of all of the victims, and the family of the suspect BK. Absolutely heartbreaking to think about the trauma, pain and loss they’ve all endured and will likely continue to endure for a lifetime.

So, so sad and senseless all the lives lost and lives affected forever by the actions of one evil maniac.

IMHOO

ETA: fixed couple of sentences.

 

[SteveP]

AT is talking about a glove which was found on Nov. 20, 2022 by CSI, NOT the glove found by the YouTuber on Nov. 28, 2022. Totally different glove or gloves - at the last hearing, they were described as "gloves." I've provided links to this information previously.

With all of the LE agencies that were working the 1122 King Rd residence, for many days after the murders, and with the number of investigators that were meticulously combing over every inch of that property, there is no way that a glove that was connected to the murders lay on the ground, mere feet from the house, for a week, without being discovered. I will not be persuaded otherwise, nor would many other people, imo. If that glove, with apparently unknown male DNA, and I only saw it listed as a single glove, not a pair, is connected in any way at all with the murders, it is most likely because it was worn by an investigator, who accidentally improperly disposed of it, as they were leaving the home, but most likely not connected at all. JMO

 

[arielilane]

@BrianEntin


Idaho 911 call transcript is a bit confusing -- figuring out who is talking -- will read it all on @NewsNation at 10pm.Also, victim Kaylee Goncalves dad and family attorney will join me.


7:55 PM · Mar 6, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897813223233008043

 

[BUF]

It's an interesting phenomena that I've seen in crime documentaries on tv. The person making the discovery of the body fails to make observations like this (seeing blood/wounds).

It's interesting that they only saw Xana, as we know Ethan was in the room with her. I wonder if she was near the door or something.

Way back there were reports that one of them was outside the room, or just outside the door to the room. We had discussions on here about who it was….X or E.

Given this new info, it was probably X and that’s the first of the four to be found and no one wanted to go any further.

 

[arielilane]

Imo, there isn't any reason for BF or DM to testify. Ive felt this all along.
They need to be protected and kept away from the meanies and negative people who are out there ready to pounce on them.

The evidence will be enough to convict BK.
moo

 

[MassGuy]

Imo, there isn't any reason for BF or DM to testify. Ive felt this all along.
They need to be protected and kept away from the meanies and negative people who are out there ready to pounce on them.

The evidence will be enough to convict BK.
moo

They’re too important to the timeline not to testify. They’re also important in explaining the events chronologically.

DM seeing a man clad in black, the roommates suddenly becoming unresponsive to texts and phone calls after she encountered that man, etc.

 

[DizzyB]

Poor girl. You see a scary stranger in your house, but he walks right by you. You try, in a drunken state, to find out what’s going on, but nobody answers. How could your mind go to murder? It can’t possibly be. You have to be imagining it, people don’t just walk into a house, kill everyone, then just walk out without giving you a second thought. It can’t be real. It’s crazy to think about. You convince yourself you’re just drunk and everyone is asleep. Until the morning, when you find out the truth. And immediately know the guy you saw was part of it.

 

[Balthazar]

With all of the LE agencies that were working the 1122 King Rd residence, for days after the murders, and with the number of investigators that were meticulously combing over every inch of that property, there is no way that a glove that was connected to the murders lay on the ground, mere feet from the house, for a week, without being discovered. I will not be persuaded otherwise, nor would many other people, imo. If that glove, with apparently unknown male DNA, and I only saw it listed as a single glove, not a pair, is connected in any way at all with the murders, it is most likely because it was worn by an investigator, who accidentally improperly disposed of it, as they were leaving the home. JMO

Usually, the crime lab has the DNA of all the investigators who were on scene, as well as the police, paramedics, victims and anyone else known to have been on the scene and they compare that DNA to whatever DNA evidence they find so they don't accidentally mistake something "improperly disposed of" for evidence. That it is unknown male DNA is interesting. The glove or gloves (still not sure which it was) was/were found during CSI's official yard search of 1122 at a time where the scene was being guarded by LE 24x7. Other than that, I don't have much of an opinion of this piece of evidence yet other than being aware the DNA in the blood inside the glove or gloves didn't match any known person associated with the scene and it was male. For me, more information is needed. I'm not someone who is quick to decide anything about a piece of evidence. I prefer to hear about everything that was found first. It will be quite some time before a full picture emerges for me - probably during the trial.

 

[gremlin444]

Poor girl. You see a scary stranger in your house, but he walks right by you. You try, in a drunken state, to find out what’s going on, but nobody answers. How could your mind go to murder? It can’t possibly be. You have to be imagining it, people don’t just walk into a house, kill everyone, then just walk out without giving you a second thought. It can’t be real. It’s crazy to think about. You convince yourself you’re just drunk and everyone is asleep. Until the morning, when you find out the truth. And immediately know the guy you saw was part of it.

BINGO!!

Stranger in my house, walks right past my door, I think he looks at me, he must have seen me....why would I think that he had murdered four other people in the house? Esp since BF is alive. Why would someone kill everyone but me and her?

 

[MTW2011]

It's an interesting phenomena that I've seen in crime documentaries on tv. The person making the discovery of the body fails to make observations like this (seeing blood/wounds).

It's interesting that they only saw Xana, as we know Ethan was in the room with her. I wonder if she was near the door or something.

JMOO but I believe this phenomena could be more at play IF there wasn’t 3 to 4 (possibly another) different people who spoke to the dispatcher. It seems unlikely to me that ALL of them would not mention any injuries or any blood. If the 911 call was limited to one or even both of the surviving roommates I could see it being plausible the shock factor affecting what was said to 911, but 4 people? That’s a lot.

I’m not alleging they knew something or were hiding something, but it seems odd that all of those who spoke to 911 seemed to not mention anything about what was otherwise described as a total blood bath per the Coroner and the victims’ families. I think we all saw the photos of blood dripping down the foundation. If I saw someone with even a small amount of blood or injury, I’m struggling to see how my mind would get to “unconscious” and we know this victim was very far from having a small injury. JMOO.

 

[arielilane]

The 911 Call

Dispatch: "911, location of your emergency."

Woman 1: "Hi, something is happening. Something happened in our house. We don't know what. We have..."

Dispatch: "What is the address of the emergency?"

Woman 1: "1122 - no don't..."

Dispatch: "What is the rest of the address?"

Woman 1: "Oh, Kings Road."

Dispatch: "Okay. And is that a house or an apartment?"

Woman 1: "It's a house."

Dispatch: "Can you repeat the address to make sure that I have it right?"

Woman 2: "I'll talk to you guys. We're, um, we live at the right, so we're next to them."

Dispatch: "I need someone to repeat the address for verification."

Woman 2: "The - the address? 1122 King Road."

Dispatch: "And what's the phone number that you're calling from?"

Woman 2: "What's your phone number?"

Woman 1: [redacted]

Woman 2: [redacted]

Woman 1: [redacted]

Woman 2: "[redacted], what's the rest?"

Woman 1: [redacted]

Woman 2: [redacted]

Dispatch: "Okay. And tell me exactly what's going on."

Woman 2: "Um, one of our - one of the roommates who's passed out and she was drunk last night and she's not waking up."

Woman 1: "No, we saw..."

Dispatch: "Okay."

Woman 2: "Oh, and they saw some man in their house last night. Yeah."

Woman 1: "Hi..."

Dispatch: "And are you with the patient? Okay. I need someone to keep the phone, stop passing it around."

Woman 1: "Can I just tell you what happened, pretty much?"

Dispatch: "What is going on currently? Is someone passed out right now?"

Woman 1: "I don't really know, but pretty much at 4:00 a.m...."

Dispatch: "Okay. I need to know what's going on right now, if someone is passed out. Can you find that out?"

Woman 1: "Yeah, I'll come - come on. Let's - we gotta go check. But we have to. Is she passed out? She's passed out. What's wrong?"

Dispatch: "Dispatching Moscow Law ambulance for..."

Woman 1: "She's not waking up."

Dispatch: "...unconsciousness, 1122 King Road."

Man 1: "Seven zero is en route..."

Dispatch: "Okay, one moment. I'm getting help started that way."


Woman 1: "Okay maybe..."

Dispatch: "(Unintelligible) 1122 King Road. All ambulance respond for unconsciousness. 1122 King Road..."

Man 1: "I copy."

Dispatch: "(Unintelligible) 58. Multiple RPs on the phone advised saying the roommate on scene is passed out and not waking up. Believe she got drunk last night and (unintelligible) about a male being in the room with them."

Man 1: "(Unintelligible) being around."

Dispatch: "That one I copy about 20-year-old female unconscious trying to get further."

Man 1: "Copy."

Man 2: "Yeah. Yeah, it's (Evan)."

Woman 1: "Okay."

Dispatch: "Okay. And how old is she?"

Woman 1: "Um, she's 20."

Dispatch: "20 you said?"

Woman 1: "Yes, 20, here do you wanna talk to 'em?"

Dispatch: "Okay."

Woman 2: "Hello? Hello?"

Dispatch: "Okay. I need someone to stop passing the phone around because I've talked to four different people."

Woman 2: "Okay. Sorry. They just gave me the phone."

Dispatch: "Is she breathing?"

Woman 2: "Hello?"

Dispatch: "Is she breathing?"

Woman 2: "No."

Dispatch: "Okay."

Man 1: "(Unintelligible) en route."

Woman 2: "(Bethany) or (Dylan) I need you to - to talking to them, okay? I can't talk to them. I need you to talk to them."

Woman 1: "Okay. Hello?"

Dispatch: "Okay. I have already sent the ambulance and law enforcement, stay on the line."

Woman 1: "Okay."

Dispatch: "If there is a defibrillator available, send someone to get it now and tell me when you have it. Unit's responding RPs advising..."

Woman 1: (Unintelligible)

Dispatch: "...the patient is not conscious, not breathing."

Woman 1: (Unintelligible)

Dispatch: "Okay. If there is a defibrillator available, send someone to get it now and tell me when you have it."

Woman 1: "We don't have one."

Man 1: "Unconscious, not breathing."

Woman 1: "Do you have a defibrillator?"

Man 3: "Yep."

Woman 1: "Yes, we have one."

Dispatch: "But are you talking to the officer?"

Woman: "Yes."

Dispatch: "Okay. I'm gonna let you go since he's there with you and can help you."

Woman 1: "Okay. Thank you. Bye."

Dispatch: "Okay."

Man 4: "Moscow 46 out."

Dispatch: "Copy."

Man 4: "13. I think we have a homicide."

Man 5: "Moscow engine 20 is en route."

Man 4: "13 70."

Man 2: "70 (unintelligible). 107 I relayed it."

Unsealed court documents reveal chilling texts and 911 call from night of Moscow student murders

MOSCOW, Idaho -- A Boise judge unsealed court documents Thursday of text and phone conversations that came from the Moscow house where four University of Idaho students were killed in

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[SteveP]

JMOO but I believe this phenomena could be more at play IF there wasn’t 3 to 4 (possibly another) different people who spoke to the dispatcher. It seems unlikely to me that ALL of them would not mention any injuries or any blood. If the 911 call was limited to one or even both of the surviving roommates I could see it being plausible the shock factor affecting what was said to 911, but 4 people? That’s a lot.

I’m not alleging they knew something or were hiding something, but it seems odd that all of those who spoke to 911 seemed to not mention anything about what was otherwise described as a total blood bath per the Coroner and the victims’ families. I think we all saw the photos of blood dripping down the foundation. If I saw someone with even a small amount of blood or injury, I’m struggling to see how my mind would get to “unconscious” and we know this victim was very far from having a small injury. JMOO.

I am not sure that all of the people who talked to the 9-1-1 operator had been into the house. Certainly 100+ threads into the case, I cannot easily find this, so take it for what it's worth, but, IIRC, DM and BF were outside the house when the call was made, and several students had come over, I THINK because someone had been called to come over and see if they could get someone to wake up, or maybe even the surviving roommates were unable to get into XK's room because someone was basically lying against the door, maybe. The phone was probably just being passed around, to someone who was not in such a state of shock, as I believe one of the roommates did, or almost did pass out. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

JMOO but I believe this phenomena could be more at play IF there wasn’t 3 to 4 (possibly another) different people who spoke to the dispatcher. It seems unlikely to me that ALL of them would not mention any injuries or any blood. If the 911 call was limited to one or even both of the surviving roommates I could see it being plausible the shock factor affecting what was said to 911, but 4 people? That’s a lot.

I’m not alleging they knew something or were hiding something, but it seems odd that all of those who spoke to 911 seemed to not mention anything about what was otherwise described as a total blood bath per the Coroner and the victims’ families. I think we all saw the photos of blood dripping down the foundation. If I saw someone with even a small amount of blood or injury, I’m struggling to see how my mind would get to “unconscious” and we know this victim was very far from having a small injury. JMOO.

I don’t think they all saw her. I think it was one person and then things were relayed to the others.

That foundation blood thing was Daily Mail nonsense. There’s no evidence that was blood, and it makes no sense that blood could drip through the walls and floors.