GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

[Megnut]

So he was looking for fish from 60’+ up in the air - in this pea soup looking water.
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IN v. Richard Allen: Trial Exhibits in the Delphi Murders Case

Cameras were banned from Richard Allen's trial. However, Court TV obtained evidence from the court in the Delphi Murders Case.

www.courttv.com

Proof IMO that he knew he'd been seen on the first platform.

So he had to hedge on that. I was there if it relates to BB seeing me but it's not me if it's the girls (their camera) seeing me.

Little detail he kept from KA and he didn't appreciate LE telling her.

Thus all his bravado and outrage.

Plus more gaslighting, changing it up with KA that he hadn't not told her he hadn't. Get her to doubt herself, doubt what he'd told her, then pivot and make it about her, knowing and trusting him, and putting a pin in it with a hug and an 'I love you, Babe' to out the topic to rest.

Guessing KA was well-versed in that pattern of (non)communication.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I do not believe this is posted yet -

Order or Judgment of the Court by JG

Order Issued 04-11-25.pdf

drive.google.com

P. 34-35

Worth a look.

The truth about what payments were approved and which were not. And why.

 

[mrjitty]

Thanks @Warwick7 !!

There's another "BAM!!!" in your linked post to the Court TV Docs ...
Court TV Released Delphi Exhibits

If one should scroll through the exihibts, one will see that RA streamed the Investigator's "Update" Press Conference ...

And keep scrolling to see the ehibits where BW's Work Records that were entered into evidence at trial. Note the date on the bottom of the print of his work records (report viewed and printed on 2/20/2017 - so February 20th 2017). These were part of disclosure. This report clearly shows BW checking into work at 5:41:44 am on 13th February and checking OUT of work at 2:02:32 PM on 13th February 2017.

The Defence knew this. The Defence still chose to attempt to call BW a liar on the stand and made a huge production number out of slapping down that subpoena onto him in front of the jury as he testified. No wonder they didn't recall him to the stand after dong that and calling him a liar. They knew he wasn't lying and had the evidence of that the entire time. Looking at the other timings for his work week, this seemed to be quite routine timings for him. Nothing 'off', nothing out of character. No cover up by anyone. No vast conspiracy. No lies ---- except from the Defence. How absolutely disgusting of them.

This just reconfirms for me that there needs to be, must be, an ethics investigation into this crew of their violations. Unreal.

Oh and those extractor markings lining up on the two rounds (one from his home and one found at the murder scene) ...

RA is exactly where he needs, and deserves, to be. May he sit there and rot for the remainder of his miserable life.


Peace to you both Abby & Libby. You have gotten your justice. The monster who did this to you is locked away and will never be able to harm another in his life. Thank you for helping nail him!

They did this so many times. I don't think I'll ever get over the yellow rope and the victims being hung from a tree. Something the D literally made up based on nothing.

 

[vls12345]

I suspect she ignored the red flags, did she ignore intuition?

Rsbm (in re: to KA):
I think this was a toxic relationship and that she was gaslit by him for many years. So, yes, I think she ignored intuition. Because when you have been gaslit for so long, repeatedly told what was true or not true, what was real or not real (usually in direct opposition to reality), you no longer trust yourself or your intuition. You've literally been trained (brainwashed) to not believe yourself. It's horrible. I am not excusing some of her behaviors and actions, but I do/can understand how what she believed or thought was messed up. I hope that (now that he's locked away for good and the publicity canks have died down) she can get some help/therapy and rebuild herself.
Jmo and ime.

 

[INfisherman]

YEP! That's EXACTLY what we talked about during the trial!!!

I hadn’t observed the photos or aerial footage until after the trial. I knew it had rained prior to the murders & suspected it was highly likely that the creek was at least stained but more probable that it was muddy. I held off opinion due to my unfamiliarity with the type of ground & runoff, which can affect water clarity.

Anyone who has fished or lived around a creek or river, like RA claimed he had, would know the water visibility beforehand - at best, it’s 4-7+ days recovery from an average rain. Besides, not too many people in Indiana are fishing or even considering going fishing in the middle of February, particularly in a creek or river.

Just more info which is suspect but not necessarily screaming of guilt.

thank you! Every time I scoffed at the idea of him looking at fish from the MHB someone would come along explain to me all the ways in which I was wrong. As if I don't have eyes. As if I didn't grow up fishing, sometimes from a height similar to the MHB. Thankful you get it.

Well, yeah, I’ve wade fished many rivers near our family’s farm ground & driven across at least 6 creeks or rivers when going to the city where I worked from 1991-2023. Water clarity in creeks & rivers is quite unstable from fall until around Memorial Day due to precipitation & runoff. Some are constantly muddy just due to the soil makeup. Deer Creek strikes me as a mostly clear creek with some greenish/blue coloring to it, muddy after hard rains due to the runoff from nearby fields.

ETA MOO

 

[INfisherman]

Rsbm (in re: to KA):
I think this was a toxic relationship and that she was gaslit by him for many years. So, yes, I think she ignored intuition. Because when you have been gaslit for so long, repeatedly told what was true or not true, what was real or not real (usually in direct opposition to reality), you no longer trust yourself or your intuition. You've literally been trained (brainwashed) to not believe yourself. It's horrible. I am not excusing some of her behaviors and actions, but I do/can understand how what she believed or thought was messed up. I hope that (now that he's locked away for good and the publicity canks have died down) she can get some help/therapy and rebuild herself.
Jmo and ime.

Damn straight - she ignored everything which was staring her right in the face. That’s a moral decision IMO, made by parents of a daughter. Imagine her whining & RA’s anger had they been forced to walk a mile in the German’s, Patty’s or Williams’ shoes had their daughter been taken from them. They both make me ill with the choices they made. Utterly selfish to the highest degree.

I wish I were more forgiving - kids make it tough for me. You just don’t go there, ever, IMO.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I can hardly bring myself to look at the interviews and listen to the recorded calls with this sniveling, lying, manipulating child murderer.

He's an evil little man whose guilt was apparent to me from day 1 after his arrest. Call it gut intuition, hunch or whatever, but I knew it in my heart.

I'd bet his family could tell some real stories about his true nature over the years. KA, she made her choices willingly as an adult to deflect and defend or excuse his behaviors, the daughter is who I have sympathy for. I bet bad things happened more often than not in the household with RA.

I find it quite telling that the SM cranks and Due Process Gang have gone so quiet lately. RA isn't going anywhere, thankfully he'll spend the rest of his pathetic life in cage like the animal he really is. Which is exactly what he deserves for his brutal actions against two innocent young girls Abby and Libby on Feb 13, 2017.

I do wonder though, what else might RA have done and gotten away with?

jmo

 

[Vaderman]

I'm a little late but have finally watched the entirety of the released interrogation video. I am surprised how...believable RA comes across. Usually during an interrogation video, you get that obvious reaction that someone is lying and being manipulative.

 

[Megnut]

I'm a little late but have finally watched the entirety of the released interrogation video. I am surprised how...believable RA comes across. Usually during an interrogation video, you get that obvious reaction that someone is lying and being manipulative.

I have a different impression.

He is a practiced stone waller. We saw him do it with KA. Deny, deny, deny. Answer with questions.

That takes zero skill. Zero wits. 4 years olds do it. Did you take a cookie? Did I? No, I didn't. Are you sure? I'm sure. I didn't take a cookie. Chomp. Chomp. Swallow. I think you took a cookie. I didn't, you did.

RA could prattle on about every topic and time frame, at length and in great detail, until that pesky 2pm to 5pm span. Then he got very boring. Wasn't me. I didn't. I wouldn't. Anyone who knows me knows I wouldn't (even if I wanted to <----wha huh?). You say that, I didn't. I'm not going to say it again (while proceeding to say it again), I didn't do it.

Only difference was LE isn't KA so they weren't about to let him wear them out, wear them down, AND RA didn't have the benefit of 30 years conditioning them to say, "yes, dear". And hugs and 'I love you, Babe' wasn't going to work on them.

So he just kept repeating himself. Offered NOTHING that would lead toward trying to figure out what happened, no attempt even to sell another story. He just broken recorded it.

I suspect, on a good day, RA only has a couple cylinders firing.

Not the brightest mushroom in the forest

JMO

 

[Salah11]

Did he ever offer you a alibi once he got off the bridge?

 

[Boxer]

Did he ever offer you a alibi once he got off the bridge?

The witness walking up to the bridge that saw him on the platform turned around and almost immediately passed the girls on their way to the bridge, passing each other at the bend between the Mears parking and the MHB. At this bend the trail straightens out and one can see across the bridge. There is zero chance he did not see them.

 

[Bekind89]

I have a different impression.

He is a practiced stone waller. We saw him do it with KA. Deny, deny, deny. Answer with questions.

That takes zero skill. Zero wits. 4 years olds do it. Did you take a cookie? Did I? No, I didn't. Are you sure? I'm sure. I didn't take a cookie. Chomp. Chomp. Swallow. I think you took a cookie. I didn't, you did.

RA could prattle on about every topic and time frame, at length and in great detail, until that pesky 2pm to 5pm span. Then he got very boring. Wasn't me. I didn't. I wouldn't. Anyone who knows me knows I wouldn't (even if I wanted to <----wha huh?). You say that, I didn't. I'm not going to say it again (while proceeding to say it again), I didn't do it.

Only difference was LE isn't KA so they weren't about to let him wear them out, wear them down, AND RA didn't have the benefit of 30 years conditioning them to say, "yes, dear". And hugs and 'I love you, Babe' wasn't going to work on them.

So he just kept repeating himself. Offered NOTHING that would lead toward trying to figure out what happened, no attempt even to sell another story. He just broken recorded it.

I suspect, on a good day, RA only has a couple cylinders firing.

Not the brightest mushroom in the forest

JMO

"Not the brightest mushroom in the forest". Made me giggle.
He reminds me of an evil little yard gnome. One like your grandma had that you used to put back far into the shrubbery because it creeped you out so much.
When I first read the transcript of that interview, that remark of "Even if I wanted to" just jumped off the screen.
Only a child-killkng pedophile would want to SA and murder children, Richard Allen, and that is exactly what you are . Talk about a Freudian slip.

 

[Megnut]

"Not the brightest mushroom in the forest". Made me giggle.
He reminds me of an evil little yard gnome. One like your grandma had that you used to put back far into the shrubbery because it creeped you out so much.
When I first read the transcript of that interview, that remark of "Even if I wanted to" just jumped off the screen.
Only a child-killkng pedophile would want to SA and murder children, Richard Allen, and that is exactly what you are . Talk about a Freudian slip.

So, so true. So, so demented.

Bet he shocked himself, that he'd actually done it.

Because until that day, he'd only wanted to.

JMO

 

[INfisherman]

I hope he’s enjoying his time in Pendleton - a little man in a great big prison. He’s earned his stay, with all the benefits which come with a luxury lifetime stay.

Spring is finally springing here. Today is a beautiful day. I’ve already enjoyed more of it than he’s allowed in 3 days time. It makes me feel good knowing every day will be like that going forward.

A & L have to be smiling today.

 

[dkaras]

I'm a little late but have finally watched the entirety of the released interrogation video. I am surprised how...believable RA comes across. Usually during an interrogation video, you get that obvious reaction that someone is lying and being manipulative.

I felt the same in the early interviews and was pretty disturbed by my own feelings! I actually thought "wow, maybe..." but then it was the interaction with his wife that really hit me. IMO he was obviously gaslighting her, overdoing it for the cameras. I've unfortunately seen that in real life before. And the "you told me you weren't on the bridge".

 

[mrjitty]

Seems there is a feud within the ranks of team Rick

Best I can figure it out, Wieneke and Ausbrook tried to get Rick/Kathy to sign a contract for the post conviction investigative work. Somehow that contract was then leaked by other Rick fans. Wieneke now tries to explain what on earth is going on.

Also Rick seems to be on track to miss the deadline to file suit on his tort. Some may recall Baldwin filed this aways back and it made Judge Gull big mad.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912489897853595767

 

[mrjitty]

My guess is the appellate lawyers, who are serious and well regarded attorneys who only work in the appeals courts, have likely sidelined the assorted cast of fans from the trial days. Why would they want yet more chaos when they are trying to win an appeal.

 

[arielilane]

I do wonder though, what else might RA have done and gotten away with?

jmo

Rsbm

My exact sentiments. moo

 

[arielilane]

It's also very interesting that KA says they are messing with you and RA's response is No, they're not.

That's pretty clear for me. When someone tells you something, I am going to believe it. The whole phone confessional phone call spoke volumes.

Surprise that she still wants to fight for "her person" as she stated something about this isn't over as she is leaving court (her person convicted). Exhausting.

Try to thinking about Abby's and Libby's families.

moo

 

[Boxer]

I hope he’s enjoying his time in Pendleton - a little man in a great big prison. He’s earned his stay, with all the benefits which come with a luxury lifetime stay.

Spring is finally springing here. Today is a beautiful day. I’ve already enjoyed more of it than he’s allowed in 3 days time. It makes me feel good knowing every day will be like that going forward.

A & L have to be smiling today.

Probably he is doing fine - he was an undirected adult with no boundaries.