GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

  • #781
Large or taller man, big build, muscular, 20-30 yo - that doesn't sound well, I have to confess. BUT Richard Allen definitely showed, it was him.
No, it doesn’t sound well at all. However, when shown a still image of BG taken from the video extracted from LG’s iPhone, ALL of the eyewitnesses who testified said the man they saw was BG, better known by the name of Richard Allen. That sounds much better.😉
 
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  • #783
Thanks for posting this, @Dotta . I was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Also from the DM's (website) link :


"....He sounded nervous and told her: ‘They’re going to pin this on me.’

Allen told his mom he had been on the trails the day the girls were murdered and had been smoking a cigarette.

He claimed investigators might find the cigarette butt, collect his DNA from it and use it to tie him to the crime scene, Janis later told police.
Allen’s mom ‘found the conversation odd,’ the authors revealed.
But she kept it to herself for years.

When her son was arrested in October 2022, Janis recalled the strange conversation and told police...."

Already preparing his defense from day 2.

I can imagine his mom waiting to reveal the conversation as no parent wants to believe their child could commit such a crime --- that's because RA's mother didn't raise him believing he was a killer !
He impacted so many families in a terrible way, including his own.
Omo.
 
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Thanks for posting this, @Dotta . I was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Also from the DM's (website) link :


"....He sounded nervous and told her: ‘They’re going to pin this on me.’

Allen told his mom he had been on the trails the day the girls were murdered and had been smoking a cigarette.

He claimed investigators might find the cigarette butt, collect his DNA from it and use it to tie him to the crime scene, Janis later told police.
Allen’s mom ‘found the conversation odd,’ the authors revealed.
But she kept it to herself for years.


When her son was arrested in October 2022, Janis recalled the strange conversation and told police...."

Already preparing his defense from day 2.

I can imagine his mom waiting to reveal the conversation as no parent wants to believe their child could commit such a crime --- that's because RA's mother didn't raise him believing he was a killer !
He impacted so many families in a terrible way, including his own.
Omo.

LE did recover cigarette butts iirc. (Or was that a different case?)

I wonder if it was cigarette butts he was worried about or did he sanitize his worry... was he worried he left DNA, in general, behind or in specific? What did you DO, Ricky? what did you wash away?
 
  • #786
LE did recover cigarette butts iirc. (Or was that a different case?)

I wonder if it was cigarette butts he was worried about or did he sanitize his worry... was he worried he left DNA, in general, behind or in specific? What did you DO, Ricky? what did you wash away?
I do not recall cigarette butts being mentioned as evidence. That’s not to say LE didn’t collect some - it just wasn’t something I recall being evidence pointing to his guilt.

If I’m being completely honest, that’s the first time I recall it being mentioned he was a smoker, but I didn’t start digging into the details of the case until fall of `24

They did collect his butt for a long term in prison though. 🤭
 
  • #787
Rick Allen, trying to control his life, his family, prison staff and the court with threats.

Angry, violent man. Who unleashed in on two little girls.

Little man.

JMO
Very happy these little tidbits where he made threats to NM & JG during his trial were put out there for the public to see. This was never brought up in MSM. Shows he’s not the little angel his supporters paint him to be.

Just a bunch of fake, selfish liars.

MOO
 
  • #788
LE did recover cigarette butts iirc. (Or was that a different case?)

I wonder if it was cigarette butts he was worried about or did he sanitize his worry... was he worried he left DNA, in general, behind or in specific? What did you DO, Ricky? what did you wash away?
You are right @Megnut They did get a cigarette butt.

LE also finds and bags a cigarette butt they deem relatively fresh. It was found on the edge of Deer Creek or in the water — it’s unclear which.”

Post in thread 'IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION'
IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION
 
  • #789
No, it doesn’t sound well at all. However, when shown a still image of BG taken from the video extracted from LG’s iPhone, ALL of the eyewitnesses who testified said the man they saw was BG, better known by the name of Richard Allen. That sounds much better.😉
This needs a source.
 
  • #790
This needs a source.
Not the OP but the source was the trial itself.

None of the bridge witnesses knew or identified Rick Allen, but agreed that the person they saw was consistent with the image in the video.

Court transcripts will bear that out IMO, once they're released.

JMO
 
  • #791
This needs a source.
A kind FYI, a partial source was posted not a week ago on the previous page but I’ll be happy to clear things up just for you.

3 of the 4 eyewitnesses called by the prosecution who saw BG are listed in the last MSM article I posted upthread on just the previous page. They are RV, BW & Betsy Blair.
  1. The state showed a photo of the "Bridge Guy" and Voorhies said, "That was the man I had waved at on the trail."
  2. Wilber testified that she believed the man she saw walking on the bridge was the man seen in the photo shared by investigators.
  3. Blair also said the man she saw on the bridge is the man in the photo released by police of "Bridge Guy."

The 4th is Sarah Carbaugh. Here is a snippet from the trial transcripts which were released about a month ago. They can be a valuable source, if you require them. I’ve posted them before & evidently you haven’t read them either. Here is a snippet of SC’s testimony from Volume 12, page 193, line 11, under direct examination by Chief Deputy Prosecutor Stacey Diener (she’s the Q & SC is the A, for precise clarity):

Q And so I’m going to show you what’s been marked as State’s Exhibit 210; do you recognize this picture?
A Yes.
Q And did you see it on the news?
A Yes.
Q And when you saw it on the news, did you recognize the image?
A Yes.
Q And what did you recognize it as?
A I recognized it as the man I saw earlier covered in mud and blood on the road.
Q And the one that you just marked, at least the area –
A Yeah, of the area of where it was.
Q Okay. And so you became familiar that this person was referred to as Bridge Guy?
A Um-hmm, yes.


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ETA Emboldening for emphasis. All 4 BG eyewitnesses identified the man they saw as BG who is by default Richard Allen unless his conviction is overturned, which IMO likely isn’t happening since his appellate attorneys are requesting an extension to file their motion. I arrive at that opinion because if there were any low hanging fruit (easy pickings for it to be reversed) they’d be in front of the judge already.

I hope this helps. See you in a couple of weeks or so.🤙
 
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  • #792
Not the OP but the source was the trial itself.

None of the bridge witnesses knew or identified Rick Allen, but agreed that the person they saw was consistent with the image in the video.

Court transcripts will bear that out IMO, once they're released.

JMO
🤌🤌💯🤌🤌

Thanks, Meg. I went the long route. 😉

Transcripts are released & were posted a few weeks ago. Let me know if you want a link to them on Google Drive; all 21 volumes.
 
  • #793
You are right @Megnut They did get a cigarette butt.

LE also finds and bags a cigarette butt they deem relatively fresh. It was found on the edge of Deer Creek or in the water — it’s unclear which.”

Post in thread 'IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION'
IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION
There I go…thanks for the correction.

ETA Nice recall @Megnut.
 
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A kind FYI, a partial source was posted not a week ago on the previous page but I’ll be happy to clear things up just for you.

3 of the 4 eyewitnesses called by the prosecution who saw BG are listed in the last MSM article I posted upthread on just the previous page. They are RV, BW & Betsy Blair.
  1. The state showed a photo of the "Bridge Guy" and Voorhies said, "That was the man I had waved at on the trail."
  2. Wilber testified that she believed the man she saw walking on the bridge was the man seen in the photo shared by investigators.
  3. Blair also said the man she saw on the bridge is the man in the photo released by police of "Bridge Guy."

The 4th is Sarah Carbaugh. Here is a snippet from the trial transcripts which were released about a month ago. They can be a valuable source, if you require them. I’ve posted them before & evidently you haven’t read them either. Here is a snippet of SC’s testimony from Volume 12, page 193, line 11, under direct examination by Chief Deputy Prosecutor Stacey Diener (she’s the Q & SC is the A, for precise clarity):

Q And so I’m going to show you what’s been marked as State’s Exhibit 210; do you recognize this picture?
A Yes.
Q And did you see it on the news?
A Yes.
Q And when you saw it on the news, did you recognize the image?
A Yes.
Q And what did you recognize it as?
A I recognized it as the man I saw earlier covered in mud and blood on the road.
Q And the one that you just marked, at least the area –
A Yeah, of the area of where it was.
Q Okay. And so you became familiar that this person was referred to as Bridge Guy?
A Um-hmm, yes.


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ETA Emboldening for emphasis. All 4 BG eyewitnesses identified the man they saw as BG who is by default Richard Allen unless his conviction is overturned, which IMO likely isn’t happening since his appellate attorneys are requesting an extension to file their motion. I arrive at that opinion because if there were any low hanging fruit (easy pickings for it to be reversed) they’d be in front of the judge already.

I hope this helps. See you in a couple of weeks or so.🤙
I think Betsy Blair also said the man that she saw in the first platform was the man in the video.
 
  • #795
It’s so strange how his family were prepared to just ignore his weird behavior after the murders.

If he hadn’t tipped himself in he would have likely gotten away with this as his family were never gonna do the right thing. IMO
 
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It’s so strange how his family were prepared to just ignore his weird behavior after the murders.

If he hadn’t tipped himself in he would have likely gotten away with this as his family were never gonna do the right thing. IMO
I agree. Specific people knew by November 2022 who was in the BG image/video. It’s been denial ever since. Talk about "how dare you……". Please. Take a look in the mirror.

MOO
 
  • #797
I agree. Specific people knew by November 2022 who was in the BG image/video. It’s been denial ever since. Talk about "how dare you……". Please. Take a look in the mirror.

MOO
Yes. Carter said most PCs that someone out there knows this man, the way he walks, his mannerisms. He promised protection for that person.

And it turns out that person was KA who also knew he was on the trail that day.
 
  • #798
Yes. Carter said most PCs that someone out there knows this man, the way he walks, his mannerisms. He promised protection for that person.

And it turns out that person was KA who also knew he was on the trail that day.

It's hard to believe she did not at least suspect him. She either had her blinders on or believed his lie.
 
  • #799
LE did recover cigarette butts iirc. (Or was that a different case?)

I wonder if it was cigarette butts he was worried about or did he sanitize his worry... was he worried he left DNA, in general, behind or in specific? What did you DO, Ricky? what did you wash away?
IIRC they did recover a cigarette butt down by the creek's edge. Maybe water had washed away the DNA or it wasn't enough for a full profile?

You know that sicko psycho would have to smoke while he watched Abby and Libby laying there bleeding out. 🤬

This just reinforces the fact that his family 'knew', yet they chose to remain silent to protect this sad, little, evil gnome of a man. 2+2=4 Every time, all day long.

EBM - Remove Non POI names

JMO
 
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