GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

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RA's presence on the bridge -- where mostly the young dare each other to go -- and a hat which gave the appearance of a lot of hair, I can see why she'd think he was younger vs older.

All the witnesses that day, none of whom expected to BE witnesses did an amazing job recalling enough detail to convict RA, especially Libby and Abby, in recording the act, time, place and agent of their abduction while keeping that evidence hidden from him.

JMO
I wouldn’t be surprised if BB was farther away from the troll than she thought she was - likely much further.

JMO
 
  • #1,382
I wouldn’t be surprised if BB was farther away from the troll than she thought she was - likely much further.

JMO

Plus... she was on her walk, saw a guy. She never thought she'd be pressed to remember every detail about him.
 
  • #1,383
I wouldn’t be surprised if BB was farther away from the troll than she thought she was - likely much further.

JMO
IMO, I suspect so too. And when you viewing an object( in this case RA), outside in the open like that with nothing nearby to give you context, it’s often difficult to guess a height.
 
  • #1,384
In terms of the appeal, I am not at all worried about the witnesses. Zero concern about the search warrant and Odinism. The ritualistic angle presented in the Frank’s Motion was frankly laughable, and has not improved with age.

I have some concern about the admissibility of the confessions, and Gull’s ruling of no nexus to third-party suspects. But, the defense is only fooling themselves if they are leaning into Odinism to support that nexus. The appellate court ain’t got time for nonsense.

In the end, this is still the correct answer:

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photo from Indy Star

JMO
 
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  • #1,385
In terms of the appeal, I am not at all worried about the witnesses. Zero concern about the search warrant and Odinism. The ritualistic angle presented in the Frank’s Motion was frankly laughable, and has not improved with age.

I have some concern about the admissibility of the confessions, and Gull’s ruling of no nexus to third-party suspects. But, the defense is only fooling themselves if they are leaning into Odinism to support that nexus. The appellate court ain’t got time for nonsense.

In the end, this is still the correct answer:

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photo from Indy Star

JMO
I wish he wasn't guilty-
meaning that when he felt the urge to do innocents harm, he checked himself, ran away and examined himself in horror. The I wish he set about fixing what he knew was wrong with him.
 
  • #1,386
I wish he wasn't guilty-
meaning that when he felt the urge to do innocents harm, he checked himself, ran away and examined himself in horror. The I wish he set about fixing what he knew was wrong with him.
He doesn’t care enough about anyone else other than himself to be able to do that. As long as people give him attention when he gets mad, he will continue his inward thinking. The good thing is he will pout & throw his childish fits behind bars going forward, for the rest of his life.

MOO
 
  • #1,387
He doesn’t care enough about anyone else other than himself to be able to do that. As long as people give him attention when he gets mad, he will continue his inward thinking. The good thing is he will pout & throw his childish fits behind bars going forward, for the rest of his life.

MOO
True. What a monstrosity he made of himself.
 
  • #1,388
I wish he wasn't guilty-
meaning that when he felt the urge to do innocents harm, he checked himself, ran away and examined himself in horror. The I wish he set about fixing what he knew was wrong with him.
You are a kind person @Boxer.
I wish the girls would have pushed him off the bridge.

I should be nice today though.
Merry Christmas!
 
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That too.
Maybe a stupid question...but why don't they tear that dangerous monstrosity down?? I would NEVER walk on it, or let my kid walk on it.
 
  • #1,391
Maybe a stupid question...but why don't they tear that dangerous monstrosity down?? I would NEVER walk on it, or let my kid walk on it.

The bigger monstrosity got two life sentences.
 
  • #1,392
Nine Christmas seasons without them. 😢
Abby and Libby never forgotten. 💕

 
  • #1,393
Maybe a stupid question...but why don't they tear that dangerous monstrosity down?? I would NEVER walk on it, or let my kid walk on it.
Because it's railroad property and the civil laws are such that companies don't have to clean up their old infrastructures, and they don't want to bear the the cost so it sits there.
Now it is in some sort of non profit -- and they put the safety barrier on the bridge.
 
  • #1,394
You are a kind person @Boxer.
I wish the girls would have pushed him off the bridge.

I should be nice today though.
Merry Christmas!
When I first heard about the girls, my spontaneous thought was, that a perp had pushed them off the bridge.
RA, this coward, certainly feared to fall himself, if he had done that.
 
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When I first heard about the girls, my spontaneous thought was, that a perp had pushed them off the bridge.
RA, this coward, certainly feared to fall himself, if he had done that.

Killing them wasn't the goal, however. Killing him was to cover up what he'd done, which IMO he did do, during those 18 minutes he won't talk about.

If only the bridge could have given out, one the girls were safely across.

He could have counted fish on his way to straight to hell.

JMO
 
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Killing them wasn't the goal, however. Killing him was to cover up what he'd done, which IMO he did do, during those 18 minutes he won't talk about.

If only the bridge could have given out, one the girls were safely across.

He could have counted fish on his way to straight to hell.

JMO

I still think it's possible that he saw that Dateline episode a little over a week before and knew that one of those girls survived being shot in the head and left for dead. I just don't understand why he chose a box cutter as a murder weapon if his intent was to kill. He had so many knives in varying sizes. So I also tend to believe that his original intent wasn't to kill.
 
  • #1,397
When I first heard about the girls, my spontaneous thought was, that a perp had pushed them off the bridge.
RA, this coward, certainly feared to fall himself, if he had done that.

RA's wife said her first thought was that the girls fell from the bridge. When LE and the families couldn't locate the girls they were searching downstream in case they had fallen from the bridge.
 
  • #1,398
RA's wife said her first thought was that the girls fell from the bridge. When LE and the families couldn't locate the girls they were searching downstream in case they had fallen from the bridge.

And Ricks "first thought" was we aren't going to search because we might get blamed.

Blamed for what, Rick? Nobody blames anyone for finding missing girls, well alive ones who were just lost. Nobody blames anyone for finding missing girls, who are injured, well, accidentally injured.

Brain leak. Just confessed to his wife that, whatever befall the missing girls, blame would be assigned.

Only one was to know that....

JMO
 
  • #1,399
When I first heard about the girls, my spontaneous thought was, that a perp had pushed them off the bridge.
RA, this coward, certainly feared to fall himself, if he had done that.

Unfortunately, the location of BG when he reached them put them all past where he could have been injured being pushed off the rails. It's easy for us, removed from the dire situation, to what if it for the girls. but they were frozen with terror and probably just trying not to "anger" BG so that he would not harm them. The crossing of the creek would have been the last chance but with a gun on them, they were children and many of us adults would also have been too scared to make a break for it.

Again, they killer was RA and the girls had zero to do with their demise.
 
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And Ricks "first thought" was we aren't going to search because we might get blamed.

Blamed for what, Rick? Nobody blames anyone for finding missing girls, well alive ones who were just lost. Nobody blames anyone for finding missing girls, who are injured, well, accidentally injured.

Brain leak. Just confessed to his wife that, whatever befall the missing girls, blame would be assigned.

Only one was to know that....

JMO

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