CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

Indeed, that's why I feel these pleas are the media taking advantage of hurting parents and putting them on display in their deepest agony.
From: Can a public appeal help to bring back a loved one?

Whether Hannah's disappearance was an accident, foul play, or something else is still unknown. But a public plea like this can help to generate new leads, says international kidnapping negotiator Julio Gomez, CEO of Trident Crisis Management Group.

He estimates that in 10% of cases, public pleas yield tips that can be used to aid in locating the missing person.


In cases of kidnapping for financial or political purposes, pleas by family or friends can spur captors to enter negotiations that can accelerate the hostage's release.
 
That specifically says harassment can get you sued. People can make as many theories about anything they want.

Outside of this websites rules they could flat out say who they think did something.

The title of that article is misleading.
 
did he go out in a vehicle or was he on that red Quad thats in their driveway? The quad makes more sense given the terrain.View attachment 586518
I could have sworn I heard him talk about jumping on the ATV but looking up says he got in the vehicle.

There's also a globe and mail article I can no longer access where he's photographed with the atv, so maybe that's where I originally read it.

Maybe he did car, then foot, then atv, then running.

Moo
 
My understanding is if there are no towers or the tower range is too far, then there is no “hand shake” (contact/ a date and time stamped “footprint” created.) If by spotty you mean a dropped call, or ability to hear/not/can hear again, IMO, there is signal range and your phone is ‘shaking hands’ with a tower creating a footprint. jmo
That explains it perfectly. Thank you.
 
No. That is super interesting!

CBC article is dated today, Friday May 16th.
[…]"The children's maternal grandmother, Cyndy Murray, has said police have advised the family against speaking to the media.”[…]

[…]"In a statement, spokesperson Cpl. Carlie McCann said police have spoken to the majority of people identified as potentially having information to support the investigation, and other interviews are scheduled to take place in the coming days and weeks." […]

[…]"Martell did not return a request for comment Friday.”[…]

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7536905
 
From the article posted above:


Police have said they do not believe the children were abducted, but have not ruled out that the case is suspicious.


McCann declined to provide more information about why police believe the children were not abducted.
On Friday, Kevin MacLean of Colchester Ground Search and Rescue said searchers will be back in the woods on Saturday and Sunday with volunteers from multiple search and rescue teams.
A plan is being prepared to define the search area, MacLean said.
 
From the article posted above:


Police have said they do not believe the children were abducted, but have not ruled out that the case is suspicious.


McCann declined to provide more information about why police believe the children were not abducted.
On Friday, Kevin MacLean of Colchester Ground Search and Rescue said searchers will be back in the woods on Saturday and Sunday with volunteers from multiple search and rescue teams.
A plan is being prepared to define the search area, MacLean said.
That sounds promising. I hope wee Lilly and Jack are brought home one way or another.
 
Salient point from the story (the only place where criminality is mentioned):
“If it rises to the level of criminal harassment, or threats, the police will certainly get involved and there can be criminal charges laid,” [Allison] Harris [a lawyer who helps families with missing children who have been cyberbullied] said. “On a civil side, the victims of these bullying posts do have some avenue to get justice.”
So, the article title is not justified by the story. Nothing legally contentious with posting theories, as always; never OK to threaten or harass, as always.
 
BBM. I'm curious if an abducted child has ever seen their parent(s) talking to them while they were held captive, or if a parental plea has ever led their captor(s) to release them. I can't think of a case in which this has helped. MOO but something about that being an expected behavior for the parent(s) seems odd to me.

Shawn Hornbeck saw his parents pleas. SH also posted twice as Shawn Devlin on his parents lost website.

Craig Akers said his reaction was tears when Shawn described watching his parents on television pleading for help with their search.

Pam Akers said it was painful to know "that he had to see us that way. That he wasn't able to just come home to us. But he said that did help him keep going and help him survive cause he knew one day that we was going to find him and bring him home. He kept the faith just like we did."

"We would have kept going until the end of our lives," she said. "We would have never stopped looking for him."


https://edition.cnn.com/2007/LAW/01/19/akers.hornbeck/index.html#:~:text='He kept the faith',never stopped looking for him."

all imo
 
It wouldn't change her relationship status. Rather it just wouldn't list who she was in a relationship with (so it would say "in a relationship" and nothing more opposed to "in a relationship with____"

I believe, if she had blocked him without purposely changing her status, it would just say "in a relationship" with no name mentioned.

That's exactly what happens. So if it's gone from in relationship to single then that's been physically done by her by selecting that option in the edit section.
 
I’m going to bump this Globe and Mail timeline article up that was published May 10th and is still open.

Skimming, and looking at the photos in the Globe and Mail article, there is a vigil in front of the RCMP detachment in Stellarton.

Something I’m wondering after looking at the photo in the Globe and Mail article of DM holding up pics of Lilly and Jack mounted on paper, in the beginning, did anyone make flyers to hand out in the adjacent communities for Lilly and Jack?

Per the reporting, Bbm:

[…]"
Many of the roughly 100 people who live in Lansdowne are related, and have been there for generations.

Lilly and Jack, along with their mother Malehya Brooks-Murray and baby sister Meadow, moved to the community two years ago, into the childhood home of Daniel Martell, who describes himself as the missing children’s stepfather. The children’s biological father has no contact with them, according to their family. Mr. Martell’s mother also lives on the property, in a dilapidated camper with multiple cats and a dog. It overlooks the fenced-in backyard where Ms. Brooks-Murray and Mr. Martell reported they must’ve escaped from and wandered off. […]

Two Nova Scotia children are missing. Here’s a timeline of key events since the siblings vanished

This is a very small community. The town literally doubled for a week!

[…]"Amy Hansen, the search manager for the day shifts with Colchester Ground Search and Rescue, told reporters on Monday that 100 to 140 ground searchers have been used during the day and from 60 to 75 at night.[…]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...missing-children-lily-jack-sullivan-1.7526454
 
Well it wouldn’t be the first time searchers missing finding who they were looking for. There must be a reason the RCMP has reason to believe it’s worth taking a second look at back where they began.

Police say they will return to an area they’ve already scoured to launch a fresh search and rescue operation in their efforts to find two children who have been missing in Nova Scotia for two weeks.

Ground and air teams will return to a specific area near where the children originally went missing to search over the long weekend, according to the RCMP…..


…..Police on Friday reassured the public their search would keep going two weeks after the kids disappeared — and would be stepped up over the Victoria Day long weekend.

The force said its ground and air teams would return to a previously searched area for a fresh operation.
 
Ground and air, hoping it proves worthwhile.

According to an RCMP news release, ground and air search efforts are planned for Saturday. Searchers will focus on specific areas around Gairloch Road.

The public is asked to avoid the search area.
 

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