CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

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MistyWaters said:
That does not explain this “last seen on the road” statement for me. Neither of them stated to the media they saw the children on the road. Their driveway was a fair distance away from the road as well.

No parent would admit to observing their 4 and 6 year old children hanging out on a public road for no reason, rather than quickly bringing them back home to safety.
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My comment said their trailer not the road.
 
AnnieOakley123 said:
Of course. It's a discussion thread, so folks can discuss theories based on the information provided so far. My only point is that RCMP and other agencies are working 24/7 behind the scenes, and in an active investigation, the public is not privy to or owed details on their due process.
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It does however take a village to find a child. Imo
 
MistyWaters said:
This is from the RCMP’s first press release dated May 2nd. Unless somebody retracted their statement, the children were last seen on the road. That addresses the reason it’s believed the children wandered. Of everything repeatedly written by the media, the sentence below is the least.

Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lilly Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.
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I don't think that necessarily means they were out on the road. It could mean "in their home (or yard) on Gairloch Road".
 
Skigh said:
I really think it refers to the actual address not that the children were seen on the road. This report was early on when they first went missing. I think it they were actually seen on the road it would have been public knowledge and discussed here.
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An RCMP press release is definitely public information. Whether or not anyone pays attention to it can’t be controlled but it certainly addresses why the RCMP have stated the children are believed to have wandered and why they have spent so much time and energy searching the area.

Maybe it wasn’t discussed here due to the early fascination of analyzing the confusing and somewhat nonsensical comments of both parents. Unfortunately we don’t have the ability to screen out what’s important to discuss and what’s not.
JMO
 
doublestop said:
I don't think that necessarily means they were out on the road. It could mean "in their home (or yard) on Gairloch Road".
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The word is “on”. It’s not an option to read different words than were contained in the RCMP release.

“They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.“
 
Andromeda said:
I was going to quote the exact quote you did.
https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7536905

IMO, the thing about this case is how technology comes into play (or lack thereof). These rural areas of N.S. have no cell service, or spotty service at best. It would be very easy to maintain that cloak of darkness using a burner phone.

RCMP have said from the beginning, they did not believe Lilly and Jack were abducted. Per Cambridge dictionary’s definition, abduction implies someone can resist and fight. jmo/moo

abduct
abduct /ăb-dŭkt′/
to force someone to go somewhere with you, often using threats or violence

Cellular for Nova Scotia Program
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There are approximately 20,000+ unserved civic addresses and 1,010 kilometres of unserved primary roads.

Areas of the province lack adequate and consistent cellular coverage, posing a challenge to public safety and seamless communication."
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I would say the majority of young children who've been abducted have been led away without kicking up a fuss or resisting because kids are trusting souls and believe someone if they tell them mommy sent me, or they ask for help to look for a lost pet, or offer them an ice cream or teddy bear or toy.

Maybe 10 or more years ago, there was a special on TV regarding abductions and how to instill in your children to be wary of strangers. They old Stranger Danger. So this tv station did a special on Stranger Danger. It started with having a whole bunch of parents together asking them whether they were confident or not whether their kids would succumb to going willingly with a stranger. I would say almost 100% felt confident they had instilled in their kids the dangers of going with someone they don't know, even someone they know, if their parents weren't around. So the tests were having an ice cream truck come into a neighbourhood and asking kids if they wanted to go inside the truck and see how they made the cones and the reward would be getting a free ice cream. Two young kids, maybe 5 and 8, were talking to the man and the older boy wanted to go inside the truck to get a freebie, while the younger one kept reminding her brother what they had been taught. I think both of them ended up going in the truck. Another was having the parents visit a pet store under the auspices of buying something, can't remember, fish or a gerbil or rabbit, and while the parents were engaged with the staff a man came into the store with an empty leash and asked the kid to help him find his puppy who got loose. Almost without fail, because kids are inherently good, they ALL went to help the guy look for his lost puppy. When they showed the results to the families they were gobsmacked and couldn't believe how easy it was for someone to take their kids. Abductors are not bogeymen, they don't look scary, they smile and are asking for help and what kid doesn't want to find a puppy? I think the whole idea of having a safe word may have started from this show so if someone came and said "mommy told me to pick you up, she's in the hospital", the child is supposed to ask for the safe word. How often that happens and how successful the program is, I don't know.

There was also a guy who usually posted prankster videos who showed how easy it would be to lure a child away in a park with a parent! to see some puppies.

So the actual definition shouldn't include being taken away by force, when referring to little kids. Definitely, an adult would resist if being taken by force.
 
MistyWaters said:
The word is “on”. It’s not an option to read different words than were contained in the RCMP release.

“They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.“
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I see where you’re coming from. But, if someone asked i.e., me, were I lived, I would say “at" (the address) or non-specifically, “on” road/street/avenue.

Lilly and Jack Sullivan lived on Gairloch Road in Landsdowne Station, Nova Scotia.

jmo
 
These searchers are highly motivated. I hope they’re successful. She mentions search may continue throughout the weekend.

Amy Hansen, one of the search managers, said the search resumed this weekend so the teams could "come back in with fresh people and cover more areas because we haven't resolved the situation yet."

"We just want to find these children and bring them home," said Hansen.

The searchers will be expanding into areas that haven't been searched. They will also be looking more deeply into areas already covered, including where children tend to go when missing in wooded areas.

Multiple drones in the air from different agencies are being used to help with the search.

Hansen said previous search efforts were suspended because of exhaustion, stress and injuries consisting of bad falls, sprained ankles and twisted knees. But they are now prepared to search for the weekend.

"Everybody's rested, refreshed, ready to go," said Hansen. "They're still going to push themselves to the point where they can't anymore, but they're troopers."
 
appleatcha said:
Wait, their address isn't on Gairloch Rd? Then why is that the title of the thread?
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We already know Jack apparently was not seen inside nor outside by the parents that morning as it’s not known what he was wearing. And the RCMP press release does not state “the children were last seen at their residence….”.

Anyway if you do not want to believe anyone sighted the children on the road that’s totally okay. For me, it answers the reason for this search, also that Lilly grabbed her backpack because she thought she was going to school that day.
 
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MistyWaters said:
The word is “on”. It’s not an option to read different words than were contained in the RCMP release.

“They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.“
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Yet we'd say something like, "the missing man was last seen on 5th Avenue, near the Whole Foods store" and definitely not mean that the man was standing on the actual roadway where car traffic runs.
 
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