CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[CityKid]

If the kids were seen on the road by someone the police would have stated that a passerby or whoever had seen them.
That would completely change how the public see the case and take suspicion away from the parents. IMO.

And it would also behoove RCMP to issue a warning than an unknown party might be in the area who kidnapped the children, and that parents should be especially careful. I have not heard such a warning from RCMP.

 

[MistyWaters]

I disagree. My opinion.

No problem. Indeed I hope the RCMP are able to advance their investigation when the search continues tomorrow.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Michelle Jeanis, an associate professor in the criminal justice department at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, called the case an “anomaly” due to the unusual facts and lack of physical evidence.

“This case doesn’t fit the typical pattern we see in child disappearances,” said Jeanis, who specializes in missing persons and juvenile justice. “There’s usually some form of evidence suggesting foul play. This resembles what we call ‘quiet disappearances’ in adult missing persons cases — where there’s simply nothing to go on.”

A few aspects of the case strike Jeanis as particularly unusual, including the children’s absence from school in the days leading up to their disappearance.

According to the children’s stepfather, Daniel Martell, they were not in school on the Thursday or Friday — the day they went missing — due to illness. Additionally, they were off on Wednesday because of a professional development day.

“It might just be a case of really unfortunate timing that they were unaccounted for during those 48 hours before they vanished,” “But that’s one detail that really stands out to me.”

“That doesn’t seem to fit this situation,” Jeanis noted. “From what we know, the children were in their backyard in a remote, rural area — not walking to school or passing through a public space where a quick abduction might occur.”

“For it to be a classic stranger abduction, the person would’ve had to deliberately choose those children."

Heartbreaking Mystery: Unexplained Disappearance of N.S. Children Leaves Experts and Families Searching for Answers…… - Check For Me

Two weeks have passed since siblings Lilly Sullivan, 6, and Jack Sullivan, 4, disappeared without a trace in rural Nova […]

checkforme.co.uk

 

[Andromeda]

“Children in that age range tend to hide anyway even early on,” he said. “So it’s just a very thorough effort to get into all of these areas because if somebody is hiding under a deadfall or something like that, they have to be able to see.”

Bbm

JMO, reading this, and the statement I include below, linked, no wonder investigators asked him to draw maps (per the Globe and Mail article that is locked. Still linked incase anyone else, here, can view.)

RCMP say it’s unlikely two children missing in rural Nova Scotia are alive as search efforts are scaled back

"They searched every rock, every root. Everything," Martell said. "I've been giving them every detail, everything from my bank account statements to all the information that came off my Google maps."
Lilly and Jack Sullivan update: Search intensifies in specific areas

 

[Andromeda]

RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Carlie McCann said No Amber Alert will be issued because there are specific requirements for issuing an Amber Alert, including the belief that a child has been abducted. “There’s no evidence of an abduction,” she said.

***She added that they are not believed to be with an adult.***

Two young Nova Scotia children still missing from remote wooded community in Pictou County

Siblings, aged 4 and 6, believe to have wandered away from family home on Friday morning

www.theglobeandmail.com

Yes. I was responding to op’s question whether children could fly unaccompanied (without their parent).

 

[iamafiusny]

Yes. I was responding to op’s question whether children could fly unaccompanied (without their parent).

Sorry should have clarified

Just wanted to point out they're not likely with any adult.

 

[TMich6811]

Bbm

JMO, reading this, and the statement I include below, linked, no wonder investigators asked him to draw maps (per the Globe and Mail article that is locked. Still linked incase anyone else, here, can view.)

RCMP say it’s unlikely two children missing in rural Nova Scotia are alive as search efforts are scaled back

"They searched every rock, every root. Everything," Martell said. "I've been giving them every detail, everything from my bank account statements to all the information that came off my Google maps."
Lilly and Jack Sullivan update: Search intensifies in specific areas

Such a weird statement to make. My bank account statements

 

[Jenna80]

How far is Pictou County from the ocean?

 

[iamafiusny]

Such a weird statement to make. My bank account statements

And Google maps

Sounds like maybe someone researched what they might ask for?

Moo

 

[Andromeda]

Such a weird statement to make. My bank account statements

Not if you think about it in context.

Human Trafficking - Canada.ca
"Human trafficking doesn't have to involve crossing borders. And it's not just a foreign problem, it's happening right now in communities across Canada.

Human trafficking involves recruiting, moving, or holding victims to exploit them for profit, usually for sexual reasons or forced labour. “

jmo/moo

 

[AIGT]

And Google maps

Sounds like maybe someone researched what they might ask for?

Moo

Agreed. Hopefully researched everything on that phone…
MO

 

[Andromeda]

How far is Pictou County from the ocean?

From Landsdowne, N.S. to the Northumberland Straight, approximately 1 hr 45 min. (PEI lies between N.S. and the Atlantic Ocean.)

 

[TMich6811]

Not if you think about it in context.

Human Trafficking - Canada.ca
"Human trafficking doesn't have to involve crossing borders. And it's not just a foreign problem, it's happening right now in communities across Canada.

Human trafficking involves recruiting, moving, or holding victims to exploit them for profit, usually for sexual reasons or forced labour. “

jmo/moo

I have no idea what this has to do with what I said

 

[MarcieM]

I totally agree. It would be a totally different investigation and the police would have certainly considered an abduction. As you say there would be appeals to anyone driving in that area to come forward .

I totally agree too. I personally don't think anyone seen them that morning but maybe that's because I don't believe they were ever there...

 

[Andromeda]

I have no idea what this has to do with what I said

You said “my bank account statements” was a weird statement to make.

IMO, investigators would want to look at his bank account statements to see if money was being deposited outside of his known employment earnings.

Or, what he was spending money on, i.e., groceries, gas, clothing for kids, activities, e-transfers to billing companies, unknown third parties (to whom?)

Basically, they would want to see the flow of his money. They would be particularly interested in a-typical large deposits outside of i.e., a tax return refund.

jmo

 

[Judy Sleuth]

You said “my bank account statements” was a weird statement to make.

IMO, investigators would want to look at his bank account statements to see if money was being deposited outside of his known employment earnings.

Or, what he was spending money on, i.e., groceries, gas, clothing for kids, activities, e-transfers to billing companies, unknown third parties (to whom?)

Basically, they would want to see the flow of his money. They would be particularly interested in a-typical large deposits outside of i.e., a tax return refund.

jmo

And I believe someone earlier posted that the times of transactions on a bank/debit card can help to tell the story.

 

[appleatcha]

You said “my bank account statements” was a weird statement to make.

IMO, investigators would want to look at his bank account statements to see if money was being deposited outside of his known employment earnings.

Or, what he was spending money on, i.e., groceries, gas, clothing for kids, activities, e-transfers to billing companies, unknown third parties (to whom?)

Basically, they would want to see the flow of his money.

jmo

Additionally, it would make sense to me if LE checked the parents' bank statements to check for any indication that the children were "sold" into human trafficking. (I hate to even say that. ) In any case, I think it's very normal for law enforcement to check the bank statements of parents/stepparents of missing children - especially if the parents are willing to offer up whatever they ask for, as DM's statements imply.

All of this is my opinion only.

Edit: I just realized you were probably trying to imply exactly this with your second sentence, sorry.

 

[Dreamcherry]

We don't even have patrols between provinces. You don't even know when you enter another province. You might have a toll booth here and there if you're entering a national park ( Like Banff) but that's just so you pay; they dont ask for anything besides 20 bucks.

Yeah, there's not really a border to patrol between NS and NB. There's a little tourist kiosk once you get into NS and that's about it. There's nothing that indicates that you've entered NB that I can remember. I've crossed that border enough times to instinctually know where it is, but there's no sign or anything, like there is between NB and Québec. That I remember anyway, maybe I'm so used to it that I don't clock it. Same for PEI, you just come off the bridge and you're there (or the ferry back in the day!)

 

[ttjo]

This story starts out with both of them having the same story,
as well as her wanting an amber alert and him wanting borders checked.
Then mom leaves with the baby and has zero to no contact with stepdad after that
DM tells the media he has asked for a round of polygraphs for everyone
How do you go from the same story to wanting everyone to take polygraphs?

 

[AIGT]

This story starts out with both of them having the same story,
as well as her wanting an amber alert and him wanting borders checked.
Then mom leaves with the baby and has zero to no contact with stepdad after that
DM tells the media he has asked for a round of polygraphs for everyone How do you go from the same story to wanting everyone to take polygraphs ?

Yeah and who is “everyone” if it was just them two?