CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[TMich6811]

You said “my bank account statements” was a weird statement to make.

IMO, investigators would want to look at his bank account statements to see if money was being deposited outside of his known employment earnings.

Or, what he was spending money on, i.e., groceries, gas, clothing for kids, activities, e-transfers to billing companies, unknown third parties (to whom?)

Basically, they would want to see the flow of his money. They would be particularly interested in a-typical large deposits outside of i.e., a tax return refund.

jmo

Yes I get all of that, it’s not really what I was saying.

It’s bizarre to say that out loud when your kids just wandered off

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Daniel Martell, stepfather of Lilly and Jack Sullivan, said he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/stepdad-of-missing-n-s-kids-says-he-hopes-something-positive-will-come-from-renewed-search-1.7538092

Police declined to say whether they will be using cadaver dogs in the search.

Ground and Air Search Renewed for Missing Children in Nova Scotia

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[ttjo]

Daniel Martell, stepfather of Lilly and Jack Sullivan, said he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/stepdad-of-missing-n-s-kids-says-he-hopes-something-positive-will-come-from-renewed-search-1.7538092

The article says that he said "he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days" but if you listen to the video that is not what he says.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6753206

Maybe I am misinterpreting?
I thought the same at first that he wanted one for himself to prove to everyone hes telling the truth because they think he "did it."
Then I listened again. and to me it sounds like he wants" everyone" to do one.

 

[AddyFinch]

I totally agree too. I personally don't think anyone seen them that morning but maybe that's because I don't believe they were ever there...

Which is plausible, as there is no confirmation of their existence from date of last school attendance, only parents say so.

 

[sunspun]

Yeah and who is “everyone” if it was just them two?

He may be referring to the children's mom, without saying her name right out, which is sad, because that would sound to me like he didn't trust her and thinks she might be hiding something. Maybe their relationship just wasn't strong enough to get through such a traumatic situation, without causing distrust and suspicion of each other, even if neither of them have done anything wrong. I hope he doesn't mean her actually.

I thought he also might mean his own relatives who live on the same property, or maybe her family who have reportedly publicly accused him of wrongdoing. Or maybe all of the above or... who knows.

 

[iamafiusny]

The article says that he said "he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days" but if you listen to the video that is not what he says.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6753206

Maybe I am misinterpreting?
I thought the same at first that he wanted one for himself to prove to everyone hes telling the truth because they think he "did it."
Then I listened again. and to me it sounds like he wants" everyone" to do one.

I'm not exactly sure what he means

I do know his answer should have been to clear it up for RCMP, not family or public.

Moo

 

[Judy Sleuth]

The article says that he said "he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days" but if you listen to the video that is not what he says.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6753206

Maybe I am misinterpreting?
I thought the same at first that he wanted one for himself to prove to everyone hes telling the truth because they think he "did it."
Then I listened again. and to me it sounds like he wants" everyone" to do one.

Yes, he answered the reporter's question of "Is that on you?" (in context, you can tell she means - will that polygraph test be conducted on you?) with "That's not just on me, but on everyone. That's what I asked for." (0:05-0:07 mark)

Could be one reason why the children's mother left and cut off contact - she may be angry at his request. (Or her leaving could be unrelated to polygraphs, of course). OMO

 

[katydid23]

Such a weird statement to make. My bank account statements

I think the LE asked for his accounts. They'd want to see what he recently purchased, or if he gave or received any large sums of cash. Or if anything was different in those specific 2 0r 3 days.

 

[Sillybilly]

The article says that he said "he has asked police to give him a polygraph test. He says he's been told it will happen in the next few days" but if you listen to the video that is not what he says.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6753206

Maybe I am misinterpreting?
I thought the same at first that he wanted one for himself to prove to everyone hes telling the truth because they think he "did it."
Then I listened again. and to me it sounds like he wants" everyone" to do one.

According to the closed captioning from the video, you are correct ttjo. Reporter asks "is that on you" and he responds ...

"That's what I asked for ..."

 

[katydid23]

Yeah and who is “everyone” if it was just them two?

Maybe his family on the property and next door neighbours too? Anyone who might have had immediate access to the kids.

Where would the kids go if they went for a walk?

I'd think their grandma or uncle's, first.
Maybe go wait for the school bus?
Or walk to a neighbour's or friends house?

 

[ttjo]

According to the closed captioning from the video, you are correct ttjo. Reporter asks "is that on you" and he responds ...

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"That's what I asked for ..."

oh good thinking to check the closed captioning.
Its just important to note becase It changed my perception of him , and the intent behind that request.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

* Nine days ago:

Martell said he has also asked police to give him a polygraph test, which will happen in the next few days.

"I just want to clear it up for everyone, not just the people online making crazy accusations and everything else," he said. "I asked for that early on, and there's not many places that do that in Canada, so they're flying somebody in."

Polygraphs are sometimes used in police investigations, but the results are not admissible in Canadian courts because they are unreliable. RCMP declined to say whether a polygraph would be administered.

"To ensure the integrity of the investigation, no further details will be released at this time," spokesperson Allison Gerrard wrote in an email

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/pictou-county-missing-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-8-1.7529741

 

[AIGT]

He may be referring to the children's mom, without saying her name right out, which is sad, because that would sound to me like he didn't trust her and thinks she might be hiding something. Maybe their relationship just wasn't strong enough to get through such a traumatic situation, without causing distrust and suspicion of each other, even if neither of them have done anything wrong. I hope he doesn't mean her actually.

I thought he also might mean his own relatives who live on the same property, or maybe her family who have reportedly publicly accused him of wrongdoing. Or maybe all of the above or... who knows.

Could be yeah but if his story is still the same where he was with MBM and it had only been minutes from the time he heard them to the time they went missing I’m not sure why he would want her to take a polygraph unless he wanted to clear her name too?

I’ll say this (IMO) - If Daniel Martell ever finds himself in the room with RCMP doing a polygraph, it’s a bad day to be Daniel Martell.

And if you don’t understand what I mean by that then on the same note - If the RCMP ever finds themselves in a situation where they are just using a polygraph to rule out individuals who they have no evidence against, then it’s a bad day to be the RCMP.

 

[ttjo]

Martell said he has also asked police to give him a polygraph test, which will happen in the next few days.

"I just want to clear it up for everyone, not just the people online making crazy accusations and everything else," he said. "I asked for that early on, and there's not many places that do that in Canada, so they're flying somebody in."

Polygraphs are sometimes used in police investigations, but the results are not admissible in Canadian courts because they are unreliable. RCMP declined to say whether a polygraph would be administered.

"To ensure the integrity of the investigation, no further details will be released at this time," spokesperson Allison Gerrard wrote in an email

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/pictou-county-missing-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-8-1.7529741

Yes I think there might be a few news clips out there. He often said the same things or with a slight moderation.

 

[ttjo]

Note to Daniel: Stay off the News and away from reporters

 

[iamafiusny]

Yes I think there might be a few news clips out there. He often said the same things or with a slight moderation.

I think DM likes to be in control and is just wording things as if he's asking and giving.

<modsnip: opinions can't be stated as facts>

He just has to stand back and let them do their thing because they have all the equipment and helicopters (ya, that's why).

Jmo

 

[AddyFinch]

Yes, he answered the reporter's question of "Is that on you?" (in context, you can tell she means - will that polygraph test be conducted on you?) with "That's not just on me, but on everyone. That's what I asked for." (0:05-0:07 mark)

Could be one reason why the children's mother left and cut off contact - she may be angry at his request. (Or her leaving could be unrelated to polygraphs, of course). OMO

Yes, he said her side doesn’t believe him. What does her family know or what was the family relationship like with him prior? What is mother saying to her family? Or is she fearful for herself or baby? Iamsure all large Cdn LE agencies have polygraphs and operators. RCMP would use their own firstly then other agencies as needed. And yes polygraphs are not admissible in Cdn courts,but are often used byLE as part of their investigation.

 

[AddyFinch]

Note to Daniel: Stay off the News and away from reporters

Lol, I was thinking same thing.

 

[Scrutineer]

So I posted in here earlier saying I believed this was an innocent case of children lost in the woods. I still think that is possible, considering the remoteness of the location, but it's quickly becoming apparent this is not a normal case.

The step-father is asking for a polygraph, but it's worth noting that they're inadmissible and unreliable which he likely knows. However, I'm not convinced he's involved. People are quick to point to him, but while the situation is unusual, I feel like they would have found more evidence by now.

<modsnip: No link to source re targeted abduction theory>

They were also out of school for three days leading up to the disappearance, but one of those days was a professional development day (meaning all students had this day off) and the other two days have been explained as illness, which is plausible but also pretty bad timing.

I still don't think the "lost in the wilderness" theory should be discounted. However, this is clearly not a typical case and other possibilities shouldn't be ruled out, including the possibility that parents, extended family, family friends, or strangers were involved.

 

[MarcieM]

Which is plausible, as there is no confirmation of their existence from date of last school attendance, only parents say so.

Exactly. You think they would have atleast seen a family member or a family friend. Someone. I also notice nowhere has it been said that Daniel's Mom and brother who also live on the property had said that they had seen them or maybe they did but it wasn't reported as fact for obvious reasons.