CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

[steff13]

My oldest son had a blanket that he was really attached to. He liked to drag it around, but it got so gross we cut a square of it for him to keep and threw the rest away. Maybe it was something like that? And she took the square with her when she left?

 

[Slebby]

From the article:

"a witness who said she was travelling with her sons on the morning of May 2 and saw two children walking along the side of the road"

I would think anyone seeing two children walking along the side of the road would stop to make sure they’re ok? I know I would.
IMHO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Do you think the RCMP has possibly planted this narrative to try flush out a potential suspect by putting them at ease so they may slip up if they think the officers are looking in a different direction?

I know we spoke about how the rcmp has the right to insert false or misleading information into the narrative of an investigation if they feel it may help solve a case , do you feel this is why this may be a red herring

I think it's definitely interesting they are putting this tip out now to the public. Timing is curious. Right after the G&B article. I think it's deliberate. MOO

 

[Megnut]

I would think anyone seeing two children walking along the side of the road would stop to make sure they’re ok? I know I would.
IMHO

Weren't they walking toward an adult? Toward a vehicle. Iirc.

If so, the tipster wouldn't have known it might be significant until later...

JMO

N.S. missing kids: Court documents provide details on Lilly and Jack Sullivan case | Globalnews.ca

Included in several documents are confirmation that investigators found a second piece of a pink blanket they say belonged to Lilly, in the trash.

globalnews.ca

 

[Slebby]

Weren't they walking toward an adult? Toward a vehicle. Iirc.

If so, the tipster wouldn't have known it might be significant until later...

JMO

Oops, missed that part

 

[Alice Ramnit]

I think it's definitely interesting they are putting this tip out now to the public. Timing is curious. Right after the G&B article. I think it's deliberate. MOO

I did notice at the beginning of the CBC article they don't say that they got the records via the Freedom of Information Act...so I'm assuming that the Police released them voluntarily too!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

 

[Megnut]

Oops, missed that part

Per the article

She described seeing a young girl holding a young boy’s hand — the boy had dirty blond hair and was wearing shorts, while the girl had darkish hair in pigtails and was wearing a tank top with blue strings. According to police, she said the children were walking toward a Caucasian female of about 50-60 years old with a “loose curl” haircut, who was waiting next to the passenger side of an older model tan or gold sedan with the backdoor open.

N.S. missing kids: Court documents provide details on Lilly and Jack Sullivan case | Globalnews.ca

Included in several documents are confirmation that investigators found a second piece of a pink blanket they say belonged to Lilly, in the trash.

globalnews.ca

 

[Judy Sleuth]

so my question is, just how big was this blanket? How big were the two pieces that were found?

If one piece was being as a draft stop against one of the doors, I would think it had to be a of a decent size, like not what I would call a scrap, per se. And MBM says she chucked that into the garbage about 1 week prior to kids missing. (how often is garbage pickup out there?)

Curious also about the piece found "in a tree" down the road a bit. was that piece just a scrap? Or a more sizeable piece like the one used for draft stop and tossed into the garbage?

If the premise that Lilly didn't really use or want the blanket anymore so it was repurposed and then thrown away, where on earth did the piece found on the tree come from? the couple's trash? Or was a scrap kept by Lilly (who no longer wanted the blanket per her mom)?

Was it similar to this?

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I'm picturing ripping the blanket in half length-wise, so that one length could perhaps be stuffed into a long crack or gap between the door and its frame or the floor. Used like a piece of weather-strip.

Just my imagining...

 

[Firstsnow4]

From the article:

"a witness who said she was travelling with her sons on the morning of May 2 and saw two children walking along the side of the road"

Yeah but I meant a specific time in the morning

 

[steff13]

“Malehya later reported to police that she thought Cody Sullivan, Lilly and Jack’s biological father, might have picked up them and taken them to New Brunswick.”

I thought this was interesting. When I first started reading I wondered if there was a custody dispute. I know she said bio dad wasn't involved, but sometimes that's not because they don't want to be. But then his mom said that he gave up his rights to the kids, so I assumed that wasn't the issue.

I wonder why she suggested it if he gave up his rights to the kids?

 

[Sillybilly]

Well thank you all for sharing the article ,greatly appreciated.

That answers a few burning questions and also kind of clears doubt regarding DM and MBM.

And now my question is if the RCMP had this tip of a possible sighting by this witness of two children walking along the road , why not share this with the public ? Surely it may have stopped a lot of the mud slinging and speculation

IMO, LE's main concern would be to find the children, and not so much about mud slinging or speculation.

I suspect it was holdback in the event they could let DM and/or MBM take the heat publicly while LE was pursuing other possibilities in the background. This would leave visual that the focus was on the parents, while they work on other possibilities behind the scenes. Even the fact that DM told us he passed the poly but LE didn't confirm that until now when news of a possible abductor is released, IMO seems to coincide with a bit of a prior disinformation campaign to aid an investigation. The witness who claims to have seen the children going towards a car ... IMO just because that info has just been released, I bet LE prolly had that info from the get-go and was placing more emphasis on DM's claim of an abduction than they were letting on to the public. Let an abductor think they weren't under suspicion.

All JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

I won't bother to opine on the poly results since they aren't admissible in court.

<rsbm>

I'll opine a bit here

RCMP use the poly as an investigative tool. When a close relative of mine applied to the RCMP, it was a very long process (seemed about 6 months). He was told he would have to take a poly, and the biggest advice was along the lines of .. they don't care if you took a quarter out of your Dad's pants when you were a kid .. just don't lie about it. IOW, the machine won't tell us the truth, but will tell us you are a liar

 

[su5ie]

So in light of the new article what are the thoughts about what happened the kids .

Tbh imo if this is how the investigation lies atm and no one is assumed guilty or named a poi and there is no current lead that we are aware of that indicates homicide or abduction . Where are the cadaver dogs ? As it seems to be the logical step to take if everything else appears ruled out .

Maybe if those fundraising funds were diverted from lawn posters to actually paying private companies with access to cadaver dogs we might have closure sooner rather than later imo

Yes I know I looked at BG fb page and seen the fundraising being done to have people erect posters on boards in their lawns to obtain the above info but BG has put her self out there in the public eye and actively wants people to know this so technically not sleuthing family members

 

[MistyWaters]

Wow! Key new information from the CBC article:
1) DM & MBM both willingly submitted to polygraphs on May 12th and passed.
2) Biological father (CS) passed a polygraph on June 12th.
3) MBM's mother and her boyfriend each passed a polygraph on July 2nd.
4) DM's mother (JM) did a polygraph on June 10th. However... "her "physiology" was "not suitable for analysis" and no opinion was rendered."
5) MBM gave five interviews to the RCMP. In the first one, she described DM as "an involved parent who would help her especially when she was overwhelmed." She also said that there was never any physical discipline.

In summary, there appears to be no evidence that DM or MBM were involved, which only deepens the mystery surrounding the children's disappearance.

BBM above.

Just a minor correction, the article does not state MBM passed the polygraph, it reads she answered truthful to specific questions. That suggests it wasn’t concluded she answered truthful to ALL of the questions, therefore it’s not entirely true she passed. Regardless even so, the RCMP didn’t believe the case was criminal in nature, so perhaps the questions which she didn’t answer truthfully (according to the polygraph) were inconsequential to the reason for the children’s disappearance. JMO

Quoted from link above “Martell’s polygraph “indicated he was truthful,” as did the test for Brooks-Murray that found she was truthful when answering specific questions, although the list of questions is redacted in the document.”

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Per the article

She described seeing a young girl holding a young boy’s hand — the boy had dirty blond hair and was wearing shorts, while the girl had darkish hair in pigtails and was wearing a tank top with blue strings. According to police, she said the children were walking toward a Caucasian female of about 50-60 years old with a “loose curl” haircut, who was waiting next to the passenger side of an older model tan or gold sedan with the backdoor open.

N.S. missing kids: Court documents provide details on Lilly and Jack Sullivan case | Globalnews.ca

Included in several documents are confirmation that investigators found a second piece of a pink blanket they say belonged to Lilly, in the trash.

globalnews.ca

Sedans are typically 4 doors from my knowledge of using that term. So if this woman was waiting next to passenger door with backdoor open, definitely sounds like a 4 door.

Backdoor open already, waiting.... I am so curious if she hopped in the front passenger seat and someone else was driving.

If the car was kept running let's say with a driver and she hopped out to escort/disarm kids (if needed, they may have recognized her from somewhere) there may be 2 people.

Or, she got kids in the car and walked around, got in the car (maybe started it) and was driver.

I bet the witness knows more and maybe LE does too. They are letting out breadcrumbs. MOO

 

[MistyWaters]

Do you think the RCMP has possibly planted this narrative to try flush out a potential suspect by putting them at ease so they may slip up if they think the officers are looking in a different direction?

I know we spoke about how the rcmp has the right to insert false or misleading information into the narrative of an investigation if they feel it may help solve a case , do you feel this is why this may be a red herring

Indeed, Police in Canada have the right to lie to potential suspects during interrogation. But I can’t think of why this tip being released would cause anyone to slip up or be flushed out.

I think it’s more likely the RCMP are interested if somebody might come forward and admit to some innocent happening that day in that location, such as it was me and my kids as we were collecting bottles from the ditch or we have a little dog that needed a walk, tipster must’ve not noticed it.

At this date this is definitely not what we wanted to hear:
On Friday, the RCMP said in a statement that it is still “considering all scenarios” as it continues the investigation..

 

[Lalalacasbah]

“Malehya later reported to police that she thought Cody Sullivan, Lilly and Jack’s biological father, might have picked up them and taken them to New Brunswick.”

I thought this was interesting. When I first started reading I wondered if there was a custody dispute. I know she said bio dad wasn't involved, but sometimes that's not because they don't want to be. But then his mom said that he gave up his rights to the kids, so I assumed that wasn't the issue.

I wonder why she suggested it if he gave up his rights to the kids?

Maybe bio dad didn't want the kids but could someone else in his side of the family want to take them in? Thinking out loud.. Doubtful after this long of time has passed. MOO

 

[su5ie]

Indeed, Police in Canada have the right to lie to potential suspects during interrogation. But I can’t think of why this tip being released would cause anyone to slip up or be flushed out.

I think it’s more likely the RCMP are interested if somebody might come forward and admit to some innocent happening that day in that location, such as it was me and my kids as we were collecting bottles from the ditch or we have a little dog that needed a walk, tipster must’ve not noticed it.

At this date this is definitely not what we wanted to hear:
On Friday, the RCMP said in a statement that it is still “considering all scenarios” as it continues the investigation..

Yes this makes much better sense . Least you got to the point

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Indeed, Police in Canada have the right to lie to potential suspects during interrogation. But I can’t think of why this tip being released would cause anyone to slip up or be flushed out.

I think it’s more likely the RCMP are interested if somebody might come forward and admit to some innocent happening that day in that location, such as it was me and my kids as we were collecting bottles from the ditch or we have a little dog that needed a walk, tipster must’ve not noticed it.

At this date this is definitely not what we wanted to hear:
On Friday, the RCMP said in a statement that it is still “considering all scenarios” as it continues the investigation..

Could it be both?

If DM and MBM are "cleared" in the eyes of the public via news article, LE/press releases and if DM was involved, it may get him to rest on his laurels? He would relax, feel at ease... then that's when perps slip up, get overly confident.

On the other hand, so true too as you say - could be RCMP want to jog more people's memories to garner tips about that day and time. Or someone may have seen that same car/woman at a gas station or something, etc.

 

[steff13]

My theory is that the kids are alive and safe with someone related to them.