NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*

[Betty P]

Unfortunately, it happens too frequently

Federal grand jury indicts man accused of killing Minnesota lawmaker

Vance Boelter is accused of shooting dead Democratic legislator Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tragg]

IMO, Mangione is just a guy who has a grudge over United Healthcare's denial of coverage for medical treatment. It isn't clear to me that the insurance contract says the treatment was covered.

Mangione's anger over the coverage denial was magnified by the pain he experienced, and IMO his mental state will be an issue in his trial.

Insurance has long had the reputation for making its money selling coverage and denying responsibility. It is no surprise that a large number of people empathize with his anger. What is shocking and dangerous is that people have come to see his act as heroic.

Mangione is no hero, but his cowardly and self-centered act occurred in a moment of our history when rage and violence are valued and promoted by the powerful people who seek to rule us. We live in dangerous times.

In a large city like New York, I think an impartial jury can be selected and the evidence of his guilt is overwhelming. He'll be convicted, but until the message from the top changes, his conviction will not stem the ever growing tide of killings by strangers whose rage you have unknowingly triggered.

 

[LinasK]

IMO, Mangione is just a guy who has a grudge over United Healthcare's denial of coverage for medical treatment. It isn't clear to me that the insurance contract says the treatment was covered.

Mangione's anger over the coverage denial was magnified by the pain he experienced, and IMO his mental state will be an issue in his trial.

Insurance has long had the reputation for making its money selling coverage and denying responsibility. It is no surprise that a large number of people empathize with his anger. What is shocking and dangerous is that people have come to see his act as heroic.

Mangione is no hero, but his cowardly and self-centered act occurred in a moment of our history when rage and violence are valued and promoted by the powerful people who seek to rule us. We live in dangerous times.

In a large city like New York, I think an impartial jury can be selected and the evidence of his guilt is overwhelming. He'll be convicted, but until the message from the top changes, his conviction will not stem the ever growing tide of killings by strangers whose rage you have unknowingly triggered.

It wasn't United Healthcare who denied him though. He didn't have United Healthcare, unless he's just lashing out at the health insurance industry in general, like murderers who were abused and hate their mothers, so they take it out on other random women.

 

[ilovewings]

That support you refer to is going to make it difficult to find a NYC jury that will convict him. I see many "hung juries" in the future, IMO.

I worry about stealth jurors in a case like this

 

[Betty P]

It wasn't United Healthcare who denied him though. He didn't have United Healthcare, unless he's just lashing out at the health insurance industry in general, like murderers who were abused and hate their mothers, so they take it out on other random women.

True, as I recall United Health Care was not his insurance provider. IIRC, he did some research on the subject of industry abuse and focused on them. They have a very poor track record of violations, one of the worst insurance companies in the business.

unitedhealth-group | Violation Tracker

Violation Tracker, produced by the Corporate Research Project of Good Jobs First, is a wide-ranging database on misconduct by large and small corporations throughout the United States.

violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org

UnitedHealth Group Abuse Tracker - American Economic Liberties Project

UnitedHealth Group has a long history of denying claims for necessary procedures or medications, unfairly squeezing out independent physician practices and pharmacies, and fraudulently manipulating medical and patient data to maximize its profits.

www.economicliberties.us

Details of United Health’s abuse problems will probably come out at the trial as part of the killer’s motive. Mangione probably thought this was the only way to shine a spotlight on this company’s patient abuse and corrupt business practices.

I wonder if he will testify on his own behalf? Either way, there’s probably computer and internet evidence of his research on UHG while planning who his target was going to be.

Murder is never the answer, but UHG seems to get by with a lot of illegal activity while being protected by the US news media. It seems it’s probably a part of the reason LM focused on them.

 

[mrC]

i wonder if other things will come out extremly strange behavior of the Pensylvania police

 

[girlhasnoname]

IMO, Mangione is just a guy who has a grudge over United Healthcare's denial of coverage for medical treatment. It isn't clear to me that the insurance contract says the treatment was covered.

Mangione's anger over the coverage denial was magnified by the pain he experienced, and IMO his mental state will be an issue in his trial.

Insurance has long had the reputation for making its money selling coverage and denying responsibility. It is no surprise that a large number of people empathize with his anger. What is shocking and dangerous is that people have come to see his act as heroic.

Mangione is no hero, but his cowardly and self-centered act occurred in a moment of our history when rage and violence are valued and promoted by the powerful people who seek to rule us. We live in dangerous times.

In a large city like New York, I think an impartial jury can be selected and the evidence of his guilt is overwhelming. He'll be convicted, but until the message from the top changes, his conviction will not stem the ever growing tide of killings by strangers whose rage you have unknowingly triggered.

Luigi's insurance was not with UHC, he chose them (Brian) as a target because they were the top profit making Insurance Carrier.

There are many, many photos of Luigi hiking, surfing, etc., after his alleged back injury and surgery.
He was in top physical condition as shown by the many shirtless selfies he posted on SM. You don't get that way without working out and a lot of physical activity.

Agree that we'll see some sort of mental defect by the Defense. His Mother's statement that "it sounds like something Luigi could be capable of" when speaking with the FBI really makes me wonder about the family dynamics.

JMO

 

[Betty P]

i wonder if other things will come out extremly strange behavior of the Pensylvania police

Both sides will probably present a lot of evidence in support of their case. I'm not sure there was anything suspicious about the PA police. They might have made some mistakes, but JMO, it honestly seems like they were in an unusual situation and responded as best they could. It's one of those things we'll have to wait until the trial to see what happens.

 

[Tragg]

Murder is never the answer, but UHG seems to get by with a lot of illegal activity while being protected by the US news media. It seems it’s probably a part of the reason LM focused on them.

RSBM, BBM

UHC goes to great lengths to silence critics, but some at least stand up to it.

United Healthcare's Campaign to Silence Critics

 

[Tragg]

It wasn't United Healthcare who denied him though. He didn't have United Healthcare, unless he's just lashing out at the health insurance industry in general, like murderers who were abused and hate their mothers, so they take it out on other random women.

You're right! Thanks for this!

 

[Betty P]

RSBM, BBM

UHC goes to great lengths to silence critics, but some at least stand up to it.

United Healthcare's Campaign to Silence Critics

Sounds like some other people/organizations who try to use dirty tactics to silence critics. Their record of violating laws and abusing consumers is public record, though.

 

[sds71]

Mangione's lawyers claim the Manhattan DA violated HIPAA and wrote a fake subpoena to review his confidential health records.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/mangione-hippa-defense-filing.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945961375848689717

 

[LinasK]

True, as I recall United Health Care was not his insurance provider. IIRC, he did some research on the subject of industry abuse and focused on them. They have a very poor track record of violations, one of the worst insurance companies in the business.

unitedhealth-group | Violation Tracker

Violation Tracker, produced by the Corporate Research Project of Good Jobs First, is a wide-ranging database on misconduct by large and small corporations throughout the United States.

violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org

UnitedHealth Group Abuse Tracker - American Economic Liberties Project

UnitedHealth Group has a long history of denying claims for necessary procedures or medications, unfairly squeezing out independent physician practices and pharmacies, and fraudulently manipulating medical and patient data to maximize its profits.

www.economicliberties.us

Details of United Health’s abuse problems will probably come out at the trial as part of the killer’s motive. Mangione probably thought this was the only way to shine a spotlight on this company’s patient abuse and corrupt business practices.

I wonder if he will testify on his own behalf? Either way, there’s probably computer and internet evidence of his research on UHG while planning who his target was going to be.

Murder is never the answer, but UHG seems to get by with a lot of illegal activity while being protected by the US news media. It seems it’s probably a part of the reason LM focused on them.

Hopefully the focus of the trial is on this cold-blooded unnecessary murder, not on the policies of UHC. They aren't the ones on trial here.

 

[LinasK]

True, as I recall United Health Care was not his insurance provider. IIRC, he did some research on the subject of industry abuse and focused on them. They have a very poor track record of violations, one of the worst insurance companies in the business.

unitedhealth-group | Violation Tracker

Violation Tracker, produced by the Corporate Research Project of Good Jobs First, is a wide-ranging database on misconduct by large and small corporations throughout the United States.

violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org

UnitedHealth Group Abuse Tracker - American Economic Liberties Project

UnitedHealth Group has a long history of denying claims for necessary procedures or medications, unfairly squeezing out independent physician practices and pharmacies, and fraudulently manipulating medical and patient data to maximize its profits.

www.economicliberties.us

Details of United Health’s abuse problems will probably come out at the trial as part of the killer’s motive. Mangione probably thought this was the only way to shine a spotlight on this company’s patient abuse and corrupt business practices.

I wonder if he will testify on his own behalf? Either way, there’s probably computer and internet evidence of his research on UHG while planning who his target was going to be.

Murder is never the answer, but UHG seems to get by with a lot of illegal activity while being protected by the US news media. It seems it’s probably a part of the reason LM focused on them.

Or because he found Brian Thompson to be an easy target.

 

[Sundog]

Hopefully the focus of the trial is on this cold-blooded unnecessary murder, not on the policies of UHC. They aren't the ones on trial here.

Well said!

 

[Betty P]

Mangione's lawyers claim the Manhattan DA violated HIPAA and wrote a fake subpoena to review his confidential health records.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/mangione-hippa-defense-filing.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945961375848689717

If accurate, this is surprising, coming from a Manhattan DA.

Regarding motive, if it becomes an issue at trial, each side will have the chance to make their arguments using the evidence available. Digital and social media evidence will probably be important. IIRC LM posted a lot of discussions, papers and other analysis online discussing health care policy topics.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Mangione's lawyers claim the Manhattan DA violated HIPAA and wrote a fake subpoena to review his confidential health records.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/mangione-hippa-defense-filing.pdf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945961375848689717

If this is in fact true as described, the DA shouldn't have a job any longer. I find it hard to believe a DA would be so incompetent and underhanded, especially in such a high profile case, but I've been shocked many times over the years.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Sounds like some other people/organizations who try to use dirty tactics to silence critics. Their record of violating laws and abusing consumers is public record, though.

I worked in the Healthcare Industry for years and they all do it. It's appalling, but true. It's all about the bottom line $$$ in the end. I've personally known CEO's of Hospitals and Insurance CO's. and the stories are shocking.

I don't defend any of them or their practices, it makes me beyond angry. You can ask any friend of mine what my hot button is. They will all say HealthCare.

What I will not defend is murdering a man in cold blood and leaving him laying dead on a NY street. Luigi appointed himself Judge, Jury and Executioner. Now he needs to pay the price for his actions.

JMO

 

[Sundog]

IIRC LM posted a lot of discussions, papers and other analysis online discussing health care policy topics.

I think that would all be irrelevant at trial.

 

[stanerd]

Agree, it was all fun and games until he was arrested and realized his days of traipsing the world posting happy, smiling, shirtless selfies were gone. As were the nice clothes, meals, lodging and other material items he was accustomed to.

Locked in a cell 10 x 12 isn't fun for Luigi anymore. He'd like to go home now please, he's had enough of this pretend altruism and he'd like to be free to do as he pleases again without penalty or retribution. He was just doing this for the little people...because SOMEBODY had to do it.

Sit down and be quiet Luigi, those days are gone. You accomplished nothing.

JMO

Oh, I think he's having fun. I believe that he absolutely loves the attention that he's been getting. He looks pretty happy in the picture in this article:

Luigi Mangione Poses in New Photo From Inside Brooklyn Jail

Luigi Mangione looks like he's fitting in at the Brooklyn detention center where he's awaiting his murder trial ... because he's posing with some fellow inmates ... and his latest photo goes hard.

www.tmz.com