NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #5

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  • #641
Or an optical illusion due to lighting.
Or something like a chin strap? They come in all shapes and you can design and print them yourself. Cant be this one of course because of the adam’s apple…but you get how there are straps for everything.
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All those people who try to arrange hits on there wind up getting scammed.

As much as I hope you're right, we almost certainly wouldn't know about the successful transactions. If some people on the dark web can purchase hard illicit drugs and have them snail mailed to their door, or (infinitely more depraved) purchase other human beings, then I suppose there could be a little more honor among thieves than we realize. I mean, I doubt there's a DarkWeb Yelp, but still. :D
 
  • #645
As much as I firmly believe he was not wearing a mask or prosthetics or makeup in the getaway cab photos.

I just saw someone point this out on X. And now I can’t unsee it or decide if he may actually have noticed something big. I’m still on the fence.

What do you think?

The man on X points to the neck in this photo and says it looks like the neck part of the mask is not tucked in. Upon zooming in… the neck does look very odd… could just be camera angle.

I was very dismissive of this possibility….

What are your thoughts?
I can buy in. I've been involved with many local theater productions. Lots of mask available. The one he maybe wearing reminds me of character mask we've used in Lion King and The Wizard of Oz. Those do go all the way down the neck, we had to use make up around the mouth, eyes, and nose.
Also makes sense why he always wore scarf. I noticed when he removed the mask at check-in he had a big thick scarf around his neck.
Yea, a mask is possible and that's kinda of the way they fit.
 

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  • #646
Or something like a chin strap? They come in all shapes and you can design and print them yourself. Cant be this one of course because of the adam’s apple…but you get how there are straps for everything.View attachment 550063
What is this used for? Looks like a post op medical device
 
  • #647
I don't see a beard in the smiling photo unless it was one of those that starts very low on the chin.
 
  • #648
All the photos are so different, only family and friends would recognize him.
 
  • #649
My initial thought was that the gun symbolized his viewing the CEO as little more than a glorified animal he was about to violently "depose", but yours is certainly an interesting take. When you mentioned a farm, I immediately thought of Orwell and how many folks use his works to justify whatever extreme ideology they evangelize. In the case against insurance, I suppose a quote like "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" would apply if one felt that the current capitalist/subsidy model was unjust.

JMO.
The veterinarian gun type is an odd choice, so we know it has meaning for Depose, Deny, Defend.

Monopoly money in the photographer brand backpack sold from 2016-2019 means something, as does the dropped phone, and the drink container carefully placed on top of the garbage bags in clear view of a camera.

Is the shooter treating an health care executive like he thinks executive health care treats clients? Like taking a bolt to the brain?

Where did he get the veterinarian gun? Did he inherit it? Does he have one for work, or he knows someone and stole it? Maybe he bought it, but it sounds somewhat restricted to veterinarians, farmers, ranchers, and field hands.

I know nothing about guns. I hope I interpreted the gun info correctly.
 
  • #650
The veterinarian gun type is an odd choice, so we know it has meaning for Depose, Deny, Defend.

Monopoly money in the photographer brand backpack sold from 2016-2019 means something, as does the dropped phone, and the drink container carefully placed on top of the garbage bags in clear view of a camera.

Is the shooter treating an health care executive like he thinks executive health care treats clients? Like taking a bolt to the brain?

Where did he get the veterinarian gun? Did he inherit it? Does he have one for work, or he knows someone and stole it? Maybe he bought it, but it sounds somewhat restricted to veterinarians, farmers, ranchers, and field hands.

I know nothing about guns. I hope I interpreted the gun info correctly.
The gun is also used on farms. It's used to euthanize animals. I think it was symbolic .... "put down" like an animal. Moo
 
  • #651
I can buy in. I've been involved with many local theater productions. Lots of mask available. The one he maybe wearing reminds me of character mask we've used in Lion King and The Wizard of Oz. Those do go all the way down the neck, we had to use make up around the mouth, eyes, and nose.
Also makes sense why he always wore scarf. I noticed when he removed the mask at check-in he had a big thick scarf around his neck.
Yea, a mask is possible and that's kinda of the way they fit.
I don't think most people realise just how realistic these masks can be. The more I look at the photos the more I can see the possibility of it being a mask. However the practicability of keeping a mask on constantly makes me doubt it. But imagine these pictures being shared, everyone looking for a white guy with bushy eyebrows and really the person underneath could look the complete opposite!
 
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I've just spent 2 and 1/2 hours catching up on this thread after being away for 5 hours, so I ask this in the nicest possible way...

Could y'all just shut up for awhile?

LOL j/k of course.

I appreciate all your thoughts and contributions to this thread. This is the first place I come to check in for the latest news because I know it will be here.
 
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There are times I needed to take a selfie, and I hate having to do it.
Because. I swear to god, I’m lucky if by pic 27 I find something I deem acceptable. And in some of them I look like an entirely different person.
Here we have a handful of pixelated cctv photos, in different lighting settings and most are captured during movement.
I’m not discounting the possibility of him wearing a flesh mask, but I find it unlikely he did. I don’t think he used brow pencils or altered his face with makeup. I don’t even think he gets his brows shaped by an aesthetician.
I think he wore a mask or a balaclava style covering, with an addition of a hood.
That was sufficient.
 
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The veterinarian gun type is an odd choice, so we know it has meaning for Depose, Deny, Defend.

Monopoly money in the photographer brand backpack sold from 2016-2019 means something, as does the dropped phone, and the drink container carefully placed on top of the garbage bags in clear view of a camera.

Is the shooter treating an health care executive like he thinks executive health care treats clients? Like taking a bolt to the brain?

Where did he get the veterinarian gun? Did he inherit it? Does he have one for work, or he knows someone and stole it? Maybe he bought it, but it sounds somewhat restricted to veterinarians, farmers, ranchers, and field hands.

I know nothing about guns. I hope I interpreted the gun info correctly.
I think it’s significance here is that it’s a modern version of a gun used by British special forces in World War II.

Part of this spy/rebel fantasy I think.
 
  • #655
I think it’s significance here is that it’s a modern version of a gun used by British special forces in World War II.

Part of this spy/rebel fantasy I think.
3D modeling?
 
  • #656
I don't think most people realise just how realistic these masks can be. The more I look at the photos the more I can see the possibility of it being a mask. However the practicability of keeping a mask on constantly makes me doubt it. But imagine these pictures being shared, everyone looking for a white guy with bushy eyebrows and really the person underneath could look the complete opposite!
I'm also wondering if its not even a face mask but a neck mask, to give someone an Adams apple they might not have, or part of what the beard some people see under the medical mask is attached too.
 
  • #657
I know we’ve talked a lot about doing this in busy/congested Manhattan, but to add to that specifically, the entrance Brian was using is a loading zone for the hotel. Instead of that lone woman with her coffee, there easily could’ve been a number of people coming and going close to the scene, possbly even blocking the perp’s exit path and/or some quick thinking hero type who would’ve tackled him. The black SUVs we see idling directly next to the scene could’ve had people exiting at the exact moment. I wonder if there was a plan b in the event there happened to be more people around?
Jmo
 
  • #658
From the last photo, you can definitely see that there is a man. I don't buy the idea that he has fake eyebrows, a fake nose, a face mask.
 
  • #659
Manicured eyebrows and generally expensive tastes. I'd put forth that those aren't typical priorities for folks who can't afford to pay (or leverage) high healthcare costs if theirs (or their loved one's) insurance coverage is denied. Seems to me that someone grieving, angry, and/or retaliatory wouldn't care so much about style or appearance to that degree anyway. I mean, that look and those brows look like someone from the old Iranian aristocracy. :D

I also don't feel that a retaliatory type of perp would be playing complex cat and mouse games. Wouldn't they be more likely to want the world to know what UHC did to their loved one?
 
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The veterinarian gun type is an odd choice, so we know it has meaning for Depose, Deny, Defend.

Monopoly money in the photographer brand backpack sold from 2016-2019 means something, as does the dropped phone, and the drink container carefully placed on top of the garbage bags in clear view of a camera.

Is the shooter treating an health care executive like he thinks executive health care treats clients? Like taking a bolt to the brain?

Where did he get the veterinarian gun? Did he inherit it? Does he have one for work, or he knows someone and stole it? Maybe he bought it, but it sounds somewhat restricted to veterinarians, farmers, ranchers, and field hands.

I know nothing about guns. I hope I interpreted the gun info correctly.

Yes, those would be the typical places for that type of gun. Or collectors if it was an OG spycraft gun from WWII. But there's also the possibility he printed it from a CAD design
 
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