NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[Boodles]

Federal charges need to be filed to stop this nonsense. jmo

He’ll be extradited, it’ll just take longer. He’ll make things as difficult as possible. I just wonder if NYPD detectives can meet with him now that NYS murder charges have been filed. (Not that LM is going to cooperate with them, but maybe he’d blurt out some angry rants if he refuses to listen to his attorney and zip it.)

 

[Warwick7]

Several things can be true at the same time
1) his actions are lighting a fire under millions of citizens hurt by "health care" corporations, he is an historic figure

2) to many he is no more than a cold blooded murderer

All children are affected by the price their parents pay just to stay alive.

"insulin prices in other developed countries, including neighboring Canada, have stayed the same. Insulin pricing in the United States is the consequence of the exact opposite of a free market: extended monopoly on a lifesaving product in which prices can be increased at will, taking advantage of regulatory and legal restrictions on market entry and importation"

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(19)31008-0/fulltext#:~:text=Insulin%20pricing%20in%20the%20United,on%20market%20entry%20and%20importation.

I will agree with you...

 

[Marantz4250b]

The previous reports were that the murder weapon was a converted WW2 gun that is used for executing horses/livestock

No, a modern design based on the wartime Welrod pistol. It wasn't, though.

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh lord...now there's a lady on Reuters Live, loudly scolding reporters to clear off her property near the courthouse. Wow!

Don't mess with the Altoona folk!

jmo

 

[Herat]

based on his outburst it’s likely his trial will become the people v the health insurance industry. given the overwhelming reactions we see online that is not something these companies are going to want to endure. it makes me wonder if there will be pressure to seek a plea agreement. The circus factor will be through the roof otherwise. Tough situation.

I think this is his full intent.

 

[justtrish]

I think the "incel" / involuntary part is his back issues interfering with intimacy, as was alluded to by a friend from his past.

Well there are many ways to be intimate and I don't doubt that for a young man having something happen to the "main attraction" would be difficult to deal with, it isn't the only way to be intimate. Plenty of people prefer other ways to the main way anyway. I think I would be put off more by his arrogance and attitude than I would any problems he would have with his body parts. Surely such a deep thinker like him could come up with other ways to connect with people.

If this was really something he was struggling with then why not use his abilities to document it and his perceived issues with health insurance.

 

[estone28]

1. I do not believe he wanted to be caught. People of exceptional intelligence often believe they can pull off the perfect crime (Brian Kohberger), and are very indignant when caught. (I am still shocked he planned and pulled off an almost perfect hit, to the not think through "post-op." Beard, Mustache, Hair Dye or even just ditching the mask and wearing a ball cap ...and he likely goes unnoticed.)

2. The best work an attorney will do for him is to get him into a min-sec facility at Butner or Eglin AFB. He has a decent shot at it with his education and lack of prior arrests.

3. It was clear on Day 2 or 3, the NYPD had no clue who he was. I expected him to disappear and his manifesto to be printed in the NYT in the next 6 months or so.

 

[sds71]

While sitting at the defense table before the hearing, Mangione mostly kept his head high and looked ahead, occasionally turning to look around the room. After it began, when he was asked if he understood his rights, he told the judge “yes, sir.” Later, he shook his head when a prosecutor said he had been found with a large amount of cash, some of it in foreign currency.

At one point, Mangione’s lawyer began telling the judge that his client may have been wearing a medical mask when he was arrested because of fears of Covid-19. Mangione, sitting near his lawyer, began to say “I bought the mask —” and was quickly interrupted by his lawyer, who shushed him and said “No, no. Don’t say a word.”

The judge said Mangione has 14 days to apply for a writ of habeas corpus, challenging his detention. The judge also gave prosecutors 30 days to procure a governor’s warrant, which they said they were already pursuing. In the meantime, Mangione will be held at a state prison in Huntingdon, Pa., a 45-minute drive from where he was arrested.

Suspect in C.E.O.’s Killing Fights Extradition to New York

The 26-year-old suspect was charged with murder in New York after being arrested at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa. He appeared in court in Pennsylvania on Tuesday afternoon.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Joe Friday]

It will become a historical circus show.
Just wait for it...buckle up.

For those of us old enough to remember the OJ trial. I can see this trial turning into the same.

JMO

 

[Big Ears]

Delay on his court departure by about 45 minutes. Source: Reuters and Sheriff

 

[Heather22]

Some people say the monopoly money represented UHC being a monopoly.
A business that controls a large portion or the entirety of a market for a specific product or service:
If there were fraud and insider trading allegations, could the monopoly money be about the McDonald's monopoly promotion scam ? (movie called McMillions) Maybe he was bothered that while claims were being denied, there were allegations of insider trading going on.

I have similar thoughts. I thought the monopoly money represented that insurance companies were a "monopoly scheme." I find it odd that he was arrested at McDonald's of all places, which is known for the monopoly game. Original game locations are NJ- fake ID from NJ. NY Avenue- murder. PA Avenue- arrested. Then of course jail. I have probably put way too much thought into it and it could all be coincidental.

 

[Sunshynn]

Answering for myself about the lawyer...according to this article he has one and was discouraged from speaking in court by said lawyer.

UnitedHealthcare CEO killing: Luigi Mangione yells to press outside courthouse, contests extradition

Luigi Mangione saw the killing as a 'symbolic takedown' of United Healthcare over perceived corruption, source says

abc30.com

 

[Van Helsing]

Major drama with HIM at the center.

Just what he wants.

My sympathy for his medical problems is eroding, quickly.

He'll probably want the opportunity for grandstanding, as all arrested terrorists do.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

Good point. His grandparents had 10 children, and they each had children of their own. That may be a lot of people to split up the wealth of the grandparents. They might be well off, but not necessarily rolling in dough.

I read somewhere last night, maybe in the San Franciso Standard, that the grandparents had 38 grandchildren as of 2008. That's a lot of heirs. Sorry that I cannot provide a link.

 

[estone28]

No, but it does help prosecutors establish the intent element of a second degree murder charge imo. If he is convicted of second degree murder, a judge will likely consider his laying in wait (as well as the pre-planning involved, of course) as aggravating factors for sentencing. Second degree murder carries a minimum sentence of 15-25 years and a maximum of life, so a judge will consider aggravating and mitigating factors to determine what they believe to be an appropriate sentence within this range. These factors are also significant to the prosecution in determining what, if any, plea deal to offer.

Umm, he road a bus from Atlanta, used cash only, had a 3D printed firearm and Fake ID's... the whole thing was pre-planned / pre-meditated, long before waiting outside the hotel.

 

[Chimera]

UnitedHealthcare CEO murder latest: Luigi Mangione extradition hearing underway

Mangione, 26, will be extradited to New York as he faces murder charges in connection to the slain United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson

www.independent.co.uk

From the link ^^^

Front and side view of LM's mugshot :

 

[DS2021]

He is gonna do just fine in jail. I expect the reception for him in jail will be similar to the reception hes recieved from the public

 

[Inthedetails]

I think the "incel" / involuntary part is his back issues interfering with intimacy, as was alluded to by a friend from his past.

I have a hard time buying his back issues were the reason he couldn't date. He's good looking, educated, rich. Plenty of people would be happy to partner with someone like that and figure out an intimate relationship that works. But, someone has to really like you to do to that.

I think it was his personality that gave him trouble in the dating department. I am guessing he is quick to anger, critical, easily frustrated, and smug, which are not attractive traits on the dating scene.

jmo

 

[otto]

What I don't understand is: if he had this condition since childhood, why did he lift weights and go surfing? He knew he had a weakness, so why didn't he live life with more caution? It's almost as though he made choices that would aggravate the condition and place him in the position where he would need surgery at a young age.

A lot of people blow a knee during sports. Knowing that they have a weakness in that knee, they modify their sports choices to minimize further injury. Why didn't Mangione use that same common sense - or did he assume/imagine that medical science could perform miracles and restore his spine to perfect health? When that didn't happen, he needed someone to blame?

 

[Warwick7]

The New York Times and CNN obtained an internal NYPD report that walked through a “manifesto” found on Mangione when he was arrested, and noted Mangione “appeared to view the targeted killing of the company’s highest-ranking representative as a symbolic takedown and a direct challenge to its alleged corruption and ‘power games,’ asserting in his note he is the ‘first to face it with such brutal honesty.’”

Sounds to me like LM found a bridge to BT.