NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[legalese]

Umm, he road a bus from Atlanta, used cash only, had a 3D printed firearm and Fake ID's... the whole thing was pre-planned / pre-meditated, long before waiting outside the hotel.

Yes, I never said otherwise. As I said, aggravating factors (such as the pre-planning involved) and mitigating factors will be considered when determining a potential plea and at sentencing.

 

[DS2021]

Imo, the prosecution will try to cut a deal.

Jury nullification is a real risk in this case

 

[Betty P]

He was shouting at the news media and carrying on as he was escorted to his hearing today. Apparently fighting extradition. Good luck with that.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-12-10-24/index.html

 

[SlimPickens]

What I don't understand is: if he had this condition since childhood, why did he lift weights and go surfing? He knew he had a weakness, so why didn't he live life with more caution? It's almost as though he made choices that would aggravate the condition and place him in the position where he would need surgery at a young age.

A lot of people blow a knee during sports. Knowing that they have a weakness in that knee, they modify their sports choices to minimize further injury. Why didn't Mangione use that same common sense - or did he assume/imagine that medical science could perform miracles and restore his spine to perfect health? When that didn't happen, he needed someone to blame?

He likely exaggerrated the impact of his condition to further rationalize his bloodlust, IMO.

 

[Chimera]

Wondering if LM's atty. took this case pro bono as a career move (high profile); or if he was hired by family ?
Omo.

 

[Warwick1991]

1. I do not believe he wanted to be caught. People of exceptional intelligence often believe they can pull off the perfect crime (Brian Kohberger), and are very indignant when caught. (I am still shocked he planned and pulled off an almost perfect hit, to the not think through "post-op." Beard, Mustache, Hair Dye or even just ditching the mask and wearing a ball cap ...and he likely goes unnoticed.)

2. The best work an attorney will do for him is to get him into a min-sec facility at Butner or Eglin AFB. He has a decent shot at it with his education and lack of prior arrests.

3. It was clear on Day 2 or 3, the NYPD had no clue who he was. I expected him to disappear and his manifesto to be printed in the NYT in the next 6 months or so.

There's no longer a Federal prison on the grounds of Elgin AFB. Federal Prison Camp, Eglin - Wikipedia
There's a new Federal prison camp in Pensacola, Florida.

Unless he's convicted of Federal charges, he will be in state prison in NY

 

[10ofRods]

I read somewhere last night, maybe in the San Franciso Standard, that the grandparents had 38 grandchildren as of 2008. That's a lot of heirs. Sorry that I cannot provide a link.

Here's a link!

Who is Luigi Mangione’s grandfather? Grandson of prominent Baltimore real estate developer identified as alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter

On Monday, December 9, 2024, 26-year-old Maryland Baltimore native Luigi Mangione was identified and arrested as the person of interest in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.soapcentral.com

(It says 37 grandchildren - but that's still a lot; none of the 10 kids of the original wealth-builder has the equivalent net worth to the senior Mangione).

 

[Herat]

What I don't understand is: if he had this condition since childhood, why did he lift weights and go surfing? He knew he had a weakness, so why didn't he live life with more caution? It's almost as though he made choices that would aggravate the condition and place him in the position where he would need surgery at a young age.

A lot of people blow a knee during sports. Knowing that they have a weakness in that knee, they modify their sports choices to minimize further injury. Why didn't Mangione use that same common sense - or did he assume/imagine that medical science could perform miracles and restore his spine to perfect health? When that didn't happen, he needed someone to blame?

There is surely an element of narcissim here.

He is blaming everyone else for his problems, and not accepting any responsibility.

 

[BrianJohnson]

I don’t understand why NYC has not charged him with first degree under the grounds of domestic terrorism

“The U.S Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”

He is surely by killing BT intimidating healthcare execs to change course on policy

 

[Tiff23fr]

(XX replaces the name in the article.)

In the spring of this year, a man in Japan struck up a conversation with a writer in England. The writer, XX, had built an online following for his posts about technology, psychology and society.

Suspect in C.E.O.’s Killing Fights Extradition to New York

The 26-year-old suspect was charged with murder in New York after being arrested at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa. He appeared in court in Pennsylvania on Tuesday afternoon.

www.nytimes.com

The man, Luigi Mangione, now accused of fatally shooting Brian Thompson, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare, became a paid subscriber to XX’s work on Substack in early April.

 

[Inthedetails]

Making judgments based on the cellphone blocking is a valid thing to speak up and complain about.

I have a shirt that has pockets which purportedly blocks signals, but that's because I liked the color and it was $5 on clearance. Also, I've read that people in cities with car theft issues should keep their car starter somewhere blocked to prevent the key from being cloned. I don't think it's reasonable to infer anything based only on having that.

Lying about not knowing about the cash is odd, however. They should be able to find ATM / bank records of him withdrawing it for the trial.

He has a degree in computer science. He knows what a Faraday bag is, imo.

jmo

 

[SlimPickens]

Imo, the prosecution will try to cut a deal.

Jury nullification is a real risk in this case

Cannot be overstated, IMO.

 

[estone28]

There's no longer a Federal prison on the grounds of Elgin AFB. Federal Prison Camp, Eglin - Wikipedia
There's a new Federal prison camp in Pensacola, Florida.

Unless he's convicted of Federal charges, he will be in state prison in NY

Thank you. I was using "Eglin" more as a generic embodiment of a min-sec prison.

 

[pseudo_hum]

Well, he can carry on his crusade from prison. Hopefully, he will not enjoy the rest of his life. IMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

Here's a link!

Who is Luigi Mangione’s grandfather? Grandson of prominent Baltimore real estate developer identified as alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter

On Monday, December 9, 2024, 26-year-old Maryland Baltimore native Luigi Mangione was identified and arrested as the person of interest in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.soapcentral.com

(It says 37 grandchildren - but that's still a lot; none of the 10 kids of the original wealth-builder has the equivalent net worth to the senior Mangione).

Seems like a kid with the world at his feet until about a year ago...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigi-mangione/

 

[Sunshynn]

Imo, the prosecution will try to cut a deal.

Jury nullification is a real risk in this case

Based on social media and other responses I'm seeing - I think it is a very high risk unless they can get some 'older' people in the jury box. IMO.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Well there are many ways to be intimate and I don't doubt that for a young man having something happen to the "main attraction" would be difficult to deal with, it isn't the only way to be intimate. Plenty of people prefer other ways to the main way anyway. I think I would be put off more by his arrogance and attitude than I would any problems he would have with his body parts. Surely such a deep thinker like him could come up with other ways to connect with people.

If this was really something he was struggling with then why not use his abilities to document it and his perceived issues with health insurance.

Yep, was thinking this as well. Starting to think he may have been using his condition as an "excuse'' for his buddy in HI as to why no girls would be visiting.

 

[abstr]

Holy mackerel, check the heavy grip on his surgically repaired neck.

JMO but I believe the surgery was on his lumbar spine???

 

[DS2021]

Seems like a kid with the world at his feet until about a year ago...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigi-mangione/

I hope this case is a learning lesson on the effects of chronic pain

 

[browneyes]

Well there are many ways to be intimate and I don't doubt that for a young man having something happen to the "main attraction" would be difficult to deal with, it isn't the only way to be intimate. Plenty of people prefer other ways to the main way anyway. I think I would be put off more by his arrogance and attitude than I would any problems he would have with his body parts. Surely such a deep thinker like him could come up with other ways to connect with people.

If this was really something he was struggling with then why not use his abilities to document it and his perceived issues with health insurance.

He could have made something 3D to help.