Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #203

[girlhasnoname]

Hey I’m still on day 9! Hello over there.

Fastest ten days ever.

They worked on Saturday IIRC.

 

[girlhasnoname]

The bullet thing is junky science at best anyway.

In your opinion, yet it is still allowed to be presented at trials in Indiana.

MOO

 

[Tricia]

Andrea Burkharts live YT mentions she believes Abby could have been “washed” because her hands were very clean even though she would have taken longer to die. (As in didn’t grab her neck like Libby possibly did) I was thinking I had heard or read that Abby’s hands were inside the sweatshirt - not able to grab anything??

She makes some good points in her video. IMO

Andrea Burkhart is an approved source

 

[susane7]

I have 0 surprise that the phones didn't connect RA to Libby and Abby. I always trough it was no link between BG and the girls. I always thought and still believe this it is a simple "trail murder". In those crimes, the predador usually lurks the trails in different times waiting for the right victims and opportunity. It is the most difficult type of crime to solve. Usually this kind of crimes are solved by DNA or if there isn't DNA they go cold. Thankfully, RA boxed himself and I hope the jury understand that.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Wow. Going further into notes on SC she was an even worse witness than I expected. Not just in her previous statements but her manner in the court. If I were state I wouldn’t have even put her on the stand. But they have to to try and put bg there at 4. What a mess.

The jury is going to remember how contradicting, off, combative and loud she was. I doubt they will find her a credible witness when it comes time to try and make it stick that somehow RA was still there at 4.

We will see I suppose.

I think SC came off incredibly reliable. She took no crap from Baldwin who was intentionally antagonizing her IMO, but that does not make her testimony less believable.

If anything she was even more adamant and stood her ground on the statements she gave in 2017 and what she said from 2022-trial.

MOO

 

[snooptroop88]

Source: Most of the other photos were of clothes and items found in Deer Creek. The bodies were upstream and north of where the following items were found in the creek:

• pair of jeans size 26 waist that were inside out with pink colored underwear on the legs
• one Nike black athletic shoe with white sole and white swoosh, the left shoe
• a white bandana-type piece of fabric
• pink footed sock
• black spaghetti strap shirt that was inside out, size L 10-12
• tiedye T-shirt, size XL that was inside out
• black footie sock
• grey zip up hooded sweatshirt of cotton-type material

https://www.wane.com/news/crime/delphi-trial-day-3-testimony-included-crime-scene-photos/

So that's Abby's jeans, I would think, and her hoodie/jacket. And Libby's shirts, I'm assuming. Where in the creek? Were all the items found together, I doubt it? There was a dive team there. I'm guessing some of these items came from the original side of the creek and others from the side they crossed over to, but it's just a guess.

Graphic photos shown to jury on Day 3 of Delphi double homicide trial

DELPHI, Ind. (WLFI) — Richard Allen was back in court for Day Three of the Delphi double homicide trial.

www.wlfi.com

(Apologies if this is already noted elsewhere in posts)

 

[Tricia]

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[Bbgiraffe]

Source: Most of the other photos were of clothes and items found in Deer Creek. The bodies were upstream and north of where the following items were found in the creek:

• pair of jeans size 26 waist that were inside out with pink colored underwear on the legs
• one Nike black athletic shoe with white sole and white swoosh, the left shoe
• a white bandana-type piece of fabric
• pink footed sock
• black spaghetti strap shirt that was inside out, size L 10-12
• tiedye T-shirt, size XL that was inside out
• black footie sock
• grey zip up hooded sweatshirt of cotton-type material

https://www.wane.com/news/crime/delphi-trial-day-3-testimony-included-crime-scene-photos/

So that's Abby's jeans, I would think, and her hoodie/jacket. And Libby's shirts, I'm assuming. Where in the creek? Were all the items found together, I doubt it? There was a dive team there. I'm guessing some of these items came from the original side of the creek and others from the side they crossed over to, but it's just a guess.

Graphic photos shown to jury on Day 3 of Delphi double homicide trial

DELPHI, Ind. (WLFI) — Richard Allen was back in court for Day Three of the Delphi double homicide trial.

www.wlfi.com

(Apologies if this is already noted elsewhere in posts)

I just wonder how Abby's bottoms and Libby's tops were found in the creek but Libby's pants were on Abby and wearing her own top. I can't think of what scenario happened there. If I'm understanding where everything was found.

 

[statt#1]

The thread moves fast...Am I right that LE doesn't have the alleged phone RA says he had on the day of the murders? RA had lots of other phones, but no phone to prove he was looking at stock tickers that day? Explain it to me folks, please

 

[Salah11]

So he hoarded his phones 23 of them to count but the one at the time murders oddly he didn’t have. No doubt the jury will see that for exactly what it is.

 

[statt#1]

So he hoarded his phones 23 of them to count but the one at the time murders oddly he didn’t have. No doubt the jury will see that for exactly what it is.

I see, so the implication is that he lied about having a phone that day? OR....he did have the phone that day and disposed of it?

 

[rez125]

I think SC came off incredibly reliable. She took no crap from Baldwin who was intentionally antagonizing her IMO, but that does not make her testimony less believable.

If anything she was even more adamant and stood her ground on the statements she gave in 2017 and what she said from 2022-trial.

MOO

Jury didn't seem to think so.

Per AB.

 

[Salah11]

I see, so the implication is that he lied about having a phone that day? OR....he did have the phone that day and disposed of it?

I believe he disposed of it as it had incriminating evidence on it.

 

[MiniMoo]

JAY CLUCK: "Wow. Going further into notes on SC she was an even worse witness than I expected. Not just in her previous statements but her manner in the court. If I were state I wouldn’t have even put her on the stand. But they have to to try and put bg there at 4. What a mess.

The jury is going to remember how contradicting, off, combative and loud she was. I doubt they will find her a credible witness when it comes time to try and make it stick that somehow RA was still there at 4.

We will see I suppose."

It seems she was quite a force of nature and not one to mince her words, however, she might not be viewed as a reliable witness by the jurors because all three interviews contain different descriptions of what is supposed to be the same guy regardless of what is missing or the time gaps.

JMO MOO JMT

 

[JAY CLUCK]

Jury didn't seem to think so.

Per AB.

Burkhart seemed to struggle to even recount it for the embarrassment, her understanding of juries and all.

 

[Warwick7]

Post in thread 'Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202' Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202

"RICHARD ALLEN: "...It’s over. I was perfectly fine. I was cooperating. I was going to give you my phone and then, you know, when you started reading all these documents … I feel like you guys think I done this. So, I’m done. You do what you need to do. It’s your job. I understand that, but you better (expletive) leave my reputation out of it. So, you do what you need to do, and then, like I said, when you do find this guy, I’ll expect the apology."

He sounds like Letecia Stauch...

 

[Bbgiraffe]

Post in thread 'Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202' Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202

"RICHARD ALLEN: "...It’s over. I was perfectly fine. I was cooperating. I was going to give you my phone and then, you know, when you started reading all these documents … I feel like you guys think I done this. So, I’m done. You do what you need to do. It’s your job. I understand that, but you better (expletive) leave my reputation out of it. So, you do what you need to do, and then, like I said, when you do find this guy, I’ll expect the apology."

He sounds like Letecia Stauch...

Hahaha beat me to it! That's exactly what I was thinking "an apology from all the people who said those things....ESPECIALLY my husband" -Letecia

 

[Niner]

Delphi Murders trial: Day 6 live blog

Delphi Murders trial continues with testimony from Dr. Roland Kohr and Sarah Carbaugh. Allen accused of murdering Abby Williams and Libby German.

www.wishtv.com

9 a.m.: Court is set to begin​

 

[Justice101]

dang, can't keep up with the threads!

Did any witness say where exactly at the crime scene they found Libby's phone?

 

[Yemelyan]

Post in thread 'Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202' Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202

"RICHARD ALLEN: "...It’s over. I was perfectly fine. I was cooperating. I was going to give you my phone and then, you know, when you started reading all these documents … I feel like you guys think I done this. So, I’m done. You do what you need to do. It’s your job. I understand that, but you better (expletive) leave my reputation out of it. So, you do what you need to do, and then, like I said, when you do find this guy, I’ll expect the apology."

He sounds like Letecia Stauch...

Wonder what phone he is talking about here? His current one? Or the one from 2017?