4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #100

[Megnut]

He won't do it, he wants his day in court, but perhaps BK needs to starts thinking about a plea deal. moo

He has nothing to lose. I think he's sincere in his detachment. He won't care about sparing enceinte a trial, won't care how it'll impact even his own family IMO. This is something to do. It's like he was instructing the book part earlier. Practicum. And this, this is now applied science. In the lab.

This is all a game to him IMO. He is probably annoyed equally with everyone in the courtroom.

JMO

 

[wendy44]

Check this out. Elite sheath. Carried ahead of him that might look exactly like a handheld vacuum.

KA-BAR Fullsize Military Utility Grizzly Elite Sheath

A durable, quality custom kydex sheath for your Full-size KA-BAR Military or Utility knife. Optional belt loops, firesteel, and many colors to choose from.

www.grizzly-outdoors.com

I've never thought he left the sheath on purpose--but maybe he did? To make it look like it was someone military?
JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

One murderer, one sheath, an item that the witness mistook for a small vacuum.

Possibly a small bag or container of some sort.

I have always "pictured" BK parking on the street behind the house with a ton of plastic covering the inside and possibly the outside of his car. Then I picture black tie trash bags on the ground next to the car.

Then hiding behind the house as he travels down to the 2nd floor sliding glass door because he had checked in the past finding it to be an easy access point.

I see him putting every bit of clothing and weapons and every piece of plastic into the bags. I picture the car trunk covered with plastic and BK throwing everything into it.

Then he has a minimal amount of clothes stashed near by.

I believe he had a hole dug or a water plan to get rid of all this evidence. I also believe he got rid of his 2nd set of clothes maybe driving naked. Country roads helped him to have less coincidental interaction with police.

I believe he was obsessive washing his car inside and out and deliberately got rid of the shower curtain after going home to take a long shower.

I believe he was extra careful not to transfer blood evidence or to leave any internet digital evidence.

However, his plan did not go as planned. People were awake at 4:00am, dog noises, 2 people in MM's bed, witness seeing him walk by, footprint by DM's door, detectives watching him using his neighbor's trash, car caught speeding away from house in a hurry, suspicious sister, and worst of all - losing the sheath with DNA that matches his cheek DNA.

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[mickey2942]

BK is grasping at straws. It is all over. Mr. PhD. Left your DNA on a knife sheath, under the victim. Geez, Criminology 101!!! #fail.

Bryan Kohberger DNA twist as judge makes huge decision on evidence

An Idaho judge finally made a ruling on the DNA technique prosecutors used to identify Bryan Kohberger as the prime suspect in the murders of four University of Idaho students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[gremlin444]

from Franks pdf:

re: barking and Murphy

pg 22: police conducted a test to try to figure out if the dog barking on the video was more likely outside or inside while barking...it sounds like they think it was coming from outside?

pg 22: "However, Defendant's argument assumes, without proof, there were no doors left open in the home after the suspect left. This assumption is not only speculative, but contrary to evidence in his proffer that the sliding glass door to the residence, the same door toward which D.M.reportedly saw the suspect walk, was left open."

So, opposite of the rumor that it was the 1st floor door left open!

pg 22 footnote 31: Officer Nunes' body camera showed he found Murphy lying on Kaylee's bed--so that answers the crate or no crate questions

 

[Megnut]

from Franks pdf:

re: barking and Murphy

pg 22: police conducted a test to try to figure out if the dog barking on the video was more likely outside or inside while barking...it sounds like they think it was coming from outside?

pg 22: "However, Defendant's argument assumes, without proof, there were no doors left open in the home after the suspect left. This assumption is not only speculative, but contrary to evidence in his proffer that the sliding glass door to the residence, the same door toward which D.M.reportedly saw the suspect walk, was left open."

So, opposite of the rumor that it was the 1st floor door left open!

pg 22 footnote 31: Officer Nunes' body camera showed he found Murphy lying on Kaylee's bed--so that answers the crate or no crate questions

No crate. But it also flies in the face of AT's weird inclusion. So bedroom doors were open. That Murphy didn't enter any of the bloody rooms isn't proof of anything.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

What did BK get right?

Obviously what he did is atrocious, but from a criminality standpoint, what did he get right?????? Anything? All roads converge at his door.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

Ive read two different stories; which is correct:

Knife sheath found next to the body of MM
Knife sheath found under the body of MM

TIA

 

[Cool Cats]

Man, reading through these documents...if this goes to trial, they are going to drag the surviving roommates through the mud, aren't they?

I believe the prosecution will practice with them and guess at what the defense's high risk questioning will be. They will be well prepared plus have reading material.

Who knows? These are real victims and "dragging victim's" through the mud will enrage many people including the jury in my 2 cents.

Jury is very aware these 2 kids are alive almost like a miracle and traumatized for life, college days ruined.

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[Arkay]

Excellent. I adore Judge Hippler.

He clearly and concisely explained away each and every item the defense had claimed. He punctured every single thing as a “misinterpretation,” according to case law and the Constitution, and in plain English as well.

My favorite part is on page 35; when the judge stated (paraphrasing now) that LE was not bound by law to divulge every lead they had, every detail they’d uncovered, nor every rock they’d upturned, etc.

Yay for DNA inclusion and goodbye to every ridiculously desperate protestation made by the defense.

Goodbye, unnecessary Franks Motion!

Bring on the trial.

JMO

 

[gremlin444]

from Franks:

pg 30: Defense says shoe print was closer to DM's door than where DM said she saw the intruder, photo shows it at the threshold and according to defense "not pointing towards the sliding glass door"

To me, that strongly supports the theory that MM & KG were killed first, then BK came down those stairs, went past DM's door and into the living room and then Xana's room and killed Xana and Ethan. Then he turned around, went back towards DM's door on his way out and veered towards the right from there to go into the kitchen to exit.

DM think he was about 3 feet away from her and looked at her.....*shudder*

 

[Cool Cats]

No crate. But it also flies in the face of AT's weird inclusion. So bedroom doors were open. That Murphy didn't enter any of the bloody rooms isn't proof of anything.

JMO

Just proof that 100 dog prints were not left around the house or on his fur.

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[arielilane]

BK is grasping at straws. It is all over. Mr. PhD. Left your DNA on a knife sheath, under the victim. Geez, Criminology 101!!! #fail.

Bryan Kohberger DNA twist as judge makes huge decision on evidence

An Idaho judge finally made a ruling on the DNA technique prosecutors used to identify Bryan Kohberger as the prime suspect in the murders of four University of Idaho students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Couldn't agree more- Thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He's not. lol. I believe we will find out he messed up a lot! moo

 

[Boxer]

This is huge.

It has almost to be a full certainty she saw the murder weapon, only had no context so her mind associated what she saw with what she knows. If he had the knife in hand, with an elite sheath, there is the bulk. It explains how he was able to exit the house without leaving blood droplets.

This is chilling. DM got a really good look at him, a murderer standing inches from her.

That is palpable.

JMO

She might have seen the knife at angle and since it was not in profile, interpreted the sliver length of it as a vacuum tube coming from plastic housing in his hand. The whole length of a standard Kabar 11.83" long and the blade 7".
The larger Kabar model is a monster of Blade length of 9 3/8"
With an overall lengthof 14 3/8 inch

 

[gremlin444]

Franks

pg 35 re: Defense claim that the FBI or Othram did nefarious things and made the SNP profile insanely big:

foot note 46 "Their only evidence of allegedly untoward conduct was the FBI searching genealogy databases that did not permitlaw enforcement searches. There was no evidence presented that the methods used by Othram Labs to conduct the IGG testing failed to meet minimum standards. While there was evidence presented that the FBI created larger SNP profile than Othram did, even Defendant's expert, Danny Hellwig, found no reason to suspect the FBI of wrongdoing in this regard."

 

[Boxer]

I believe the prosecution will practice with them and guess at what the defense's high risk questioning will be. They will be well prepared plus have reading material.

Who knows? These are real victims and "dragging victim's" through the mud will enrage many people including the jury in my 2 cents.

Jury is very aware these 2 kids are alive almost like a miracle and traumatized for life, college days ruined.

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It never will be ok and the survivors guilt will be hard to grapple with permanently.

 

[Cool Cats]

It never will be ok and the survivors guilt will be hard to grapple with permanently.

If they cry on the stand because their best friends were brutally killed plus the detective testifies how extremely traumatized and in shock they were, plus the survivors guilt you mention etc......

Then the prosecution should keep their darn mouths shut. Nothing to say to change these severe facts.

Wouldn't surprise me to see 1/2 that courtroom and jurors in tears.


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[Cool Cats]

What did BK get right?

Obviously what he did is atrocious, but from a criminality standpoint, what did he get right?????? Anything? All roads converge at his door.

JMO

He did not kill the 2nd floor or first floor witnesses. Thank God. Or Murphy.

 

[LinasK]

From the article:
Kohberger's attorney Anne Taylor criticized authorities as she claimed that police did not disclose the unidentified blood when obtaining a search warrant for Kohberger's arrest in December 2022, which prosecutors did not dispute.

She argued this should disqualify some evidence collected in the search as it was not properly authorized.

But Hippler dismissed those claims on Wednesday.

'His DNA is still on the knife sheath, though,' the judge said, according to Fox News.

'That's the problem, counsel.'

Yes!!! That is the major problem. Even IF you think the blood on the rail points to an accomplice, it doesn't exonerate him from his DNA left on the knife sheath under the victim. It simply means police failed to identify a second suspect. Personally, I think the rail blood is old and unrelated since it was a party house.

 

[LinasK]

No crate. But it also flies in the face of AT's weird inclusion. So bedroom doors were open. That Murphy didn't enter any of the bloody rooms isn't proof of anything.

JMO

Sounds like a barking, traumatized dog to me who witnessed his owner getting killed.