GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

[Megnut]

Checking to refresh my own memory -- looks like the extended deadline to file is September 6.

I can't fathom any legitimate grounds to appeal.

JMO

Man convicted in Delphi murders asks for appeal extension

An Indiana man convicted of killing two girls is asking a court for more time to appeal the decision.

www.wlky.com

 

[girlhasnoname]

Checking to refresh my own memory -- looks like the extended deadline to file is September 6.

I can't fathom any legitimate grounds to appeal.

JMO

Man convicted in Delphi murders asks for appeal extension

An Indiana man convicted of killing two girls is asking a court for more time to appeal the decision.

www.wlky.com

I'm feeling quite confident that RA isn't going anywhere, neither is his appeal. Have fun in prison for the rest of your natural life child murderer. You deserve nothing better.

JMO

 

[FromGermany1]

I thought he had kept an unspent Winchester .40 cal round in a “keepsake box” on the dresser, in his bedroom?

Actually the unspent round in his keepsake box could be a memorabilia of another crime, where he also forced a girl or two girls at gunpoint, to do like he demanded (Illinois or elsewhere?). The unspent round from the Delphi crime was the one, LE found in the ground between the girls. RA must have known, that he lost the unspent round from the Delphi crime. Nothing left to put in his keepsake box. Maybe, RA only didn't know, where exactly it had gone missing. Maybe, he hoped, it happened on the bridge, and the bullet disappeared between the railroad ties and landed in the creek (or on the land) below. MOO

 

[Megnut]

How could Richard Allen know for a fact a cartridge from his gun -- in all the years he'd been to the bridge -- couldn't have been found near the girls if he didn't know where their bodies were found?

Could have been an old cartridge, a new cartridge, a spent cartridge, an unspent cartridge....

He just couldn't stop telling on himself.

JMO

 

[twall]

Checking to refresh my own memory -- looks like the extended deadline to file is September 6.

I can't fathom any legitimate grounds to appeal.

JMO

Man convicted in Delphi murders asks for appeal extension

An Indiana man convicted of killing two girls is asking a court for more time to appeal the decision.

www.wlky.com

08/28/2025 Motion for Extension of Time to File Brief.

You can read it here, search for RA and select Appellate

Indiana Courts Case Search - MyCase

 

[Megnut]

08/28/2025 Motion for Extension of Time to File Brief.

You can read it here, search for RA and select Appellate

Indiana Courts Case Search - MyCase

I must have missed this one. An extension to an extension?

Sigh.

 

[friendlysleuther]

Where is RA, now, anyways? He’s not in IN or wherever he had recently transferred to out of state

 

[sunshineray]

"Attorneys representing Allen filed an appeal of his conviction and sentence in Carroll Circuit Court in March. Uliana told The Lawyer that Allen's transfer to Oklahoma will impede his team's ability to consult with him during the appeals process, which she says is essential in a case of his size."

Delphi killer Richard Allen transferred to Oklahoma facility - The Indiana Lawyer

Richard Allen, the man convicted of killing two teenage girls in Delphi in 2017, has been transferred from Indiana to Oklahoma. The Indiana Department of Correction declined to provide a reason for the move.

www.theindianalawyer.com

 

[sunshineray]

Where is RA, now, anyways? He’s not in IN or wherever he had recently transferred to out of state

Oklahoma

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2025/07/21/delphi-murderer-richard-allen-moved-to-oklahoma-prison/85310844007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=false&gca-epti=z116739p117550c117550e002800v116739&gca-ft=17&gca-ds=sophi

 

[sunspun]

How could Richard Allen know for a fact a cartridge from his gun -- in all the years he'd been to the bridge -- couldn't have been found near the girls if he didn't know where their bodies were found?

Could have been an old cartridge, a new cartridge, a spent cartridge, an unspent cartridge....

He just couldn't stop telling on himself.

JMO

That's right. Instead of stupidly insisting it wasn't possible, even though he knew the police had found it there, he could've come up with some explanation that made it POSSIBLE if unlikely. They had just told him about them finding it and even SHOWED him HIS bullet, so he knew he had no chance of convincing them that didn't happen, but he still kept claiming it wasn't possible. When he should have been trying to think of some way that it might actually be possible, some innocent way. Because if he doesn't give them some alternative, they're left thinking exactly what they told him they did think. But all he gave them was an impossible explanation. So they had two explanations to consider: one was impossible that RA gave them and the other one they came up with themselves after finding the evidence. If he was smart, he'd have seen that they had no other explanation to go with, and the one they had, made RH guilty.

But we know he was not smart and didn't furnish them with any alternative. But he didn't even try! He just kept repeating it's not possible, which was only possibly true if the cops were lying. But the cops knew they weren't lying, duh.

 

[INfisherman]

I must have missed this one. An extension to an extension?

Sigh.

Here is the actual motion, if interested.

https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/Case/Document/?token=KdkLTI9aIaadxOLfJS41PX7SGsXnHowIhkhtugxa7v852r5K6QKExqUGZbp8Eu0EQW7AvR-DDA7d-RP8lVL6piPOS4Hfs2KgDuEQUXBRZ5EVL1JM--psfWVPpjhy-L59Fhe68DvfQeqMnwGcKsFWnsPH_zBzBRh7RUZGHynYNd7mbz9z478_HugpmpyG7R-KuvG8HlW0BI-Mp_xR6cxM-Q2

 

[INfisherman]

Checking to refresh my own memory -- looks like the extended deadline to file is September 6.

I can't fathom any legitimate grounds to appeal.

JMO

Man convicted in Delphi murders asks for appeal extension

An Indiana man convicted of killing two girls is asking a court for more time to appeal the decision.

www.wlky.com

Extend away - just shows they’re being thorough, which I’d hope they would be just for the sake of being fair, but more importantly nothing that’s easily &/or obviously able to be appealed.

If my memory is correct, he’s around 60 days shy of his 3rd consecutive year in custody.

That's right. Instead of stupidly insisting it wasn't possible, even though he knew the police had found it there, he could've come up with some explanation that made it POSSIBLE if unlikely. They had just told him about them finding it and even SHOWED him HIS bullet, so he knew he had no chance of convincing them that didn't happen, but he still kept claiming it wasn't possible. When he should have been trying to think of some way that it might actually be possible, some innocent way. Because if he doesn't give them some alternative, they're left thinking exactly what they told him they did think. But all he gave them was an impossible explanation. So they had two explanations to consider: one was impossible that RA gave them and the other one they came up with themselves after finding the evidence. If he was smart, he'd have seen that they had no other explanation to go with, and the one they had, made RH guilty.

But we know he was not smart and didn't furnish them with any alternative. But he didn't even try! He just kept repeating it's not possible, which was only possibly true if the cops were lying. But the cops knew they weren't lying, duh.

This may be what seemed so off to me about his 2 interviews. The idiot just didn’t directly answer questions. He either went off on tangents or conveniently forgot. He was fishing the entire time until Holeman slapped the ballistics report down in front of his face. Then he knew & was able to remember things because it wasn’t possible it was him if the pic came from LG’s phone & it wasn’t possible the round came from his gun.

I would have been reacting with fear, concern & worry - likely refusing to speak further without an attorney present. He said he was done a few times but he kept blabbering on thinking he was in ahead of LE, all while trying not to be overly obvious when staring at the CS photo one of the first times Holeman left the room.

MOO

 

[INfisherman]

Actually the unspent round in his keepsake box could be a memorabilia of another crime, where he also forced a girl or two girls at gunpoint, to do like he demanded (Illinois or elsewhere?). The unspent round from the Delphi crime was the one, LE found in the ground between the girls. RA must have known, that he lost the unspent round from the Delphi crime. Nothing left to put in his keepsake box. Maybe, RA only didn't know, where exactly it had gone missing. Maybe, he hoped, it happened on the bridge, and the bullet disappeared between the railroad ties and landed in the creek (or on the land) below. MOO

He knew how many rounds were in the clip. At some point in time, when he fired the gun or emptied the clip, he knew he left the round there, he just didn’t know how or where. Likely why he never went back to give more info or follow up after 2017, until he was asked in 2022.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Do they intend ever to be ready?

A lifetime of pending appeal, in extension?

Or two lifetimes?

Can the judge set a time limit on these?

JMO

 

[sunshineray]

I must have missed this one. An extension to an extension?

Sigh.

I understand that being in touch with your client is important and RA being transferred to Oklahoma puts him far away from his lawyers. But really, filing an appeal to his conviction, what is RA really needed for except being shown the appeal when constructed by his attorneys and saying yea or nay to it? All the legal drafting is mostly guided by discovery, trial documents and new/old investigative paperwork. What is it that RA can possible contribute to that process?

The last appeal for brief filing asking for extension was just filed on the 28th. Maybe the judge will give them one more extension (3 strikes) into October to file and that's it? I don't know, just guessing?

 

[sunshineray]

He knew how many rounds were in the clip. At some point in time, when he fired the gun or emptied the clip, he knew he left the round there, he just didn’t know how or where. Likely why he never went back to give more info or follow up after 2017, until he was asked in 2022.

JMO

I think it may have just dawned on him during that interview. He started off, no way that's my shell at CS because he knew he cranked it on the bridge to intimidate and facilitate the girls down the hill. I really think with first the van showing up, then Libby trying to get away, perusing her and then dragging her back and waiting while they died... everything else he'd done (like cranking it again to get them to take their clothes off, this side or the other side of the creek) just blurred in his memory. Just a thought

 

[Megnut]

Imagine being the attorneys, charged with coming and appeal for Richard Allen, and stepping in what his defense attorneys left behind. And not just the defense attorneys but their adjacent attorneys, the ones straddling a different bridge -- part of the team or social influences? Or the slippery bridge of both.

The obvious appeal IMO -- inefficient counsel -- but they rallied for re-instatement, were granted it, underscored by Richard Allen who insisted he wanted to keep them and oathed that he was satisfied with his representation.

Poor defense strategy all around, but they weren't idle. 95% of the detritus the new attorneys must sift through was  generated fabricated by the defense. Franks, Franks and frankly, Franks.

When the judge rules, I hope any unjustified appeal is denied and then sanctions visited upon any attorneys that deserve them.

JMO

 

[twall]

I must have missed this one. An extension to an extension?

Sigh.

Yes, it was a long trial and I believe the attorneys got the transcripts of the trial and all hearings at the beginning of July. Alot to review. And now that RA is housed in OK it makes it harder for his attorneys to consult with him as stated in the latest motion for extension.

 

[INfisherman]

I think it may have just dawned on him during that interview. He started off, no way that's my shell at CS because he knew he cranked it on the bridge to intimidate and facilitate the girls down the hill. I really think with first the van showing up, then Libby trying to get away, perusing her and then dragging her back and waiting while they died... everything else he'd done (like cranking it again to get them to take their clothes off, this side or the other side of the creek) just blurred in his memory. Just a thought

Hard to tell. I am of the belief the round in the keepsake box was his memento for that day. He couldn’t keep the sock or panties but he could keep &, if found by anyone else, explain away the round, be it to his wife, daughter, cleaning person or LE. That bullet held some significance, as it was found in a box with a letter from his mother as well as what looks like an invitation to a Ball State radiology graduation ceremony.

MOO

 

[musicaljoke]

"Attorneys representing Allen filed an appeal of his conviction and sentence in Carroll Circuit Court in March. Uliana told The Lawyer that Allen's transfer to Oklahoma will impede his team's ability to consult with him during the appeals process, which she says is essential in a case of his size."

Delphi killer Richard Allen transferred to Oklahoma facility - The Indiana Lawyer

Richard Allen, the man convicted of killing two teenage girls in Delphi in 2017, has been transferred from Indiana to Oklahoma. The Indiana Department of Correction declined to provide a reason for the move.

www.theindianalawyer.com

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