GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

[iamshadow21]

True.
But I still think it’s a big nothing. Just part of the process.

Oh, I agree, I just think it's important to specify that the subject of this isn't the Frank's motion itself, but the exhibits they were claiming as supporting evidence. We don't all have copies of those on our devices.

MOO

 

[sunshineray]

But we didn't have access to the exhibits. Those were the photos etc they used to claim their ridiculous fiction. We could never see the photos because they included victim pictures.

MOO

So this is about the crime scene photos attached to the FM, that they had to return? Is that what this delay is all about? Didn't both sides have to return them because they were under seal? They must have been sent back to LE storage, locked up right? Maybe they aren't being held locally but by the state, because of the leak that occured?

 

[INfisherman]

Here is the appellate attorney’s motion filed 2 days ago & explains, in part, what the appellate attorneys are requesting (page 2, item 3) - see attached below - along with Exhibits A, B & C. Quite a bit more than just photos but still following Andy down his Odin hole.

This is not a big deal at all. The court clerk simply did not provide these items yet because they weren’t part of the trial but a separate hearing (Franks). Why it was not just given to them is unknown but once they get it, they will be given another 30 days to present their case.

Short version, they’re going to challenge the PCA & also go down "Andy’s path" with the alternate suspects & also considering the MTCE, so all the "clown work".

More info here:

https://fox59.com/news/richard-allens-attorneys-reveal-strategy-in-appeal-of-delphi-murders-conviction/

Bridge troll likely won’t be going anywhere if this is the best they’ve got.

MOO

ETA - added 3 exhibits & edited last sentence of first paragraph after "- see attached below -"; "if this is the best they’ve got".

 

[Emma Peel]

Here is the appellate attorney’s motion filed 2 days ago & explains, in part, what the appellate attorneys are requesting (page 2, item 3) - see attached below - along with Exhibits A, B & C. Quite a bit more than just photos but still following Andy down his Odin hole.

This is not a big deal at all. The court clerk simply did not provide these items yet because they weren’t part of the trial but a separate hearing (Franks). Why it was not just given to them is unknown but once they get it, they will be given another 30 days to present their case.

Short version, they’re going to challenge the PCA & also go down "Andy’s path" with the alternate suspects & also considering the MTCE, so all the "clown work".

More info here:

https://fox59.com/news/richard-allens-attorneys-reveal-strategy-in-appeal-of-delphi-murders-conviction/

Bridge troll likely won’t be going anywhere if this is the best they’ve got.

MOO

ETA - added 3 exhibits & edited last sentence of first paragraph after "- see attached below -"; "if this is the best they’ve got".

Thank you for providing the pdfs; the link to the Appellate docket - apparently timed out.

Appellate Order below:

 

[Emma Peel]

Clarifying - The Franks submission had two parts: the memo and its exhibits.

The Franks Memo was provided for in the appellate record; BUT the Clerk reports that the voluminous Franks Exhibits (from the Sept. 18, 2023 Franks-hearing motion).

Additionally, two of the MTCE Exhibits (Jan. 20, 2025) are also missing from the Clerks submission of the appellate record.

Latest Order - Per the 10/3/2025 order, the Court of Appeals states these missing Exhibits are part of the Clerk’s Record and must be included in the Appellant’s Appendix.

(I'd meant - earlier - to say that the MTCE Exhibits were also missing and ordered into the appellate record as well.)

Allen/his Appellate attnys can't submit his appellate to the Court of Appeals without the complete record.

 

[INfisherman]

Thank you for providing the pdfs; the link to the Appellate docket - apparently timed out.

Appellate Order below:

View attachment 618817

Not a problem & thank you for taking the time to post items & explain them without all the legalese.

Politely FYI & mainly for the sake of clarity, the order you posted above came prior to the latest documents. The appellate attorneys have asked for these exhibits (at least) twice now & have also asked for later due dates. Basically, they’re telling the courts "we are still waiting on you to give us everything we need & then we’ll need time to prepare our stuff."

I’m fairly certain you’re already aware but others may wish to know all of these PDFs are available to the public for free via the IN mycase site. For me, it’s easiest to search by his name & find his appellate case against the state. Alternatively, the cause/case number as shown on the page you last posted above can be used as well. Until an appellate judge orders anything sealed, I assume these appellate documents will continue to be available to the public. I do not expect anything like CS-related exhibits to make their way to the public via the courts though & rightfully so.

JMO

ETA entire 2nd paragraph.

 

[INfisherman]

Fake smile.

Like many things involving him or his life.

MOO

 

[INfisherman]

How does the defense not have a working copy of their own exhibits? Was it not important enough for them to have and keep? I'm truly confused by this bit of drama.

I could be mistaken but the defense team isn’t the "official" keeper of the pre-trial or trial records. The courts should be. Due to all of the theories, by both the state & defense, the volume of discovery, trial transcripts, exhibits & paperwork is massive. The appellate team needs it all & rightfully so. Keep it all on the level so there are no mistakes made which may result in further appeals later.

The appellate attorneys need what was submitted to the court - the actual exhibits, not copies kept by the prosecution or defense. Technicalities, etc., for making sure nothing is altered. If these exhibits cannot be found for any reason, then they will do more digging & likely reach out for copies, which were hopefully kept by one side or the other.

The state supports this, so there’s not really any true drama yet. If the courts cannot find these exhibits then I imagine supporters of the convicted child murderer will start baking up railroading & conspiracy theories once again.

I feel the appellate attorneys will be more professional than the original defense team. So far, they’re simply trying to collect everything they should have already been issued in order to present their appeal in full.

JMO & not a lawyer.