NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #5

[Agatha3]

crazy how far he went in such strange/puzzling/dramatic ways to emphasize his point.

As if the murder itself wasn’t enough of a statement for him.

Going to all the added effort of the bullets and now this Monopoly money left in the backpack to get another message across… just wow… this is just mind boggling to me.

It takes me back to a much earlier post on here which mentioned Anonymous action group - or a rogue one.

 

[SlimPickens]

Ive waited to chime in. Reading the article reguarding high end clothing in backpack and the folk hero mentality by some, I wonder if he was paid by some group to do this. He may be a good marksman but he's made a lot of forensic mistakes including not wearing gloves I noticed. He was not wearing them when he rode of on ebike either so it wasn't just to shoot. Someone could have helped put this plan all together to travel there.

As careful and meticulous as he was, if he's not wearing gloves or concerned about DNA, then it lends credence to the idea from some that he isn't a US (or cooperative Western) person.

JMO.

 

[eddie_van]

One thousand percent. They know.

As always, in my opinion.

If they knew, he would be caught by now. IMO

 

[Sleuthster]

One thing about the lack of gloves: He probably doesn't have a criminal record.

Absolutely. They would have found who he was in a hearbeat

 

[getthefax]

It's a strange added element, as you see that sort of thing with serial killers and domestic terrorists (symbolism and taunting), but not with assassins.

I really do think he’s a new type, @MassGuy .
One for the books.

 

[EBW321]

It's a strange added element, as you see that sort of thing with serial killers and domestic terrorists (symbolism and taunting), but not with assassins.

Exactly!

 

[MesquiteO21]

If they knew, he would be caught by now. IMO

I’m pretty sure Idaho LE had Bryan Kohberger’s name well before they arrested him, so no, not necessarily

 

[justtrish]

Another thought about people supporting this murderer simply because of who he killed...

Well when the copy cat crimes start because people think they will get this same level of notoriety, I hope the target isn't anyone closer to home. What if it's someone you (hypothetical you) know and love that is targeted because their job doesn't align with someone else's idea of how things should go?

 

[Kapua]

No way they’re finding the gun. Just my opinion.

He kept the gun, IMHO. It is an expensive gun, and he thinks he might need it later. MOO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I can’t think of any other similar assassination-type killings where the killer ‘played games’ with LE before — does anyone know of any? The level of bravado this suspect is displaying and the way he is taunting LE seems like a quite a departure from ‘typical’ assassination-type killings. It makes me think BT’s murder was just a way for him to convey his message, as opposed to being solely motivated by revenge. MOO.

 

[TTF14]

If they knew, he would be caught by now. IMO

Maybe he has been caught.

 

[10ofRods]

Ive waited to chime in. Reading the article reguarding high end clothing in backpack and the folk hero mentality by some, I wonder if he was paid by some group to do this. He may be a good marksman but he's made a lot of forensic mistakes including not wearing gloves I noticed. He was not wearing them when he rode of on ebike either so it wasn't just to shoot. Someone could have helped put this plan all together to travel there.

I noticed that too. It made me wonder if he could be a meticulous, Bryan Kohberger-type planner of crime. Because when I saw him without gloves, it made no sense (unless he's never been fingerprinted for any reason - which is possible).

But then I thought about the various easy ways that criminals disguise their fingerprints - and wondered if he used one of those methods.

Just pondering.

 

[Friday Fan]

I can’t think of any other similar assassination-type killings where the killer ‘played games’ with LE before — does anyone know of any? The level of bravado this suspect is displaying and the way he is taunting LE seems like a quite a departure from ‘typical’ assassination-type killings. It makes me think BT’s murder was just a way for him to convey his message, as opposed to being solely motivated by revenge. MOO.

Zodiac?

 

[MassGuy]

I’m pretty sure Idaho LE had Bryan Kohberger’s name well before they arrested him, so no, not necessarily

Yes. And he was under surveillance for several days before law enforcement was able to get DNA confirmation.

Kohberger was a guy you’d want to move on fast too, but it took time.

 

[krikken]

I was just thinking...other than the explanation that POI is a foreign national, does greater New York area have any insular cultural or ethnic groups where someone brought up in such a community, or with at least one foot still in the community, would not have a strong online presence or digital trail? And thus would be less concerned with being recognized?

 

[rizzo0904]

I don't think he was paid by an individual to do this. He wouldn't be playing games. The person who hired him would be pissed.

I think he did have someone working with him based on precise timing.

He is a very very patient man. He got to NY ten days before the killing.

I wonder if he'll try another murder....

 

[keek]

I noticed that too. It made me wonder if he could be a meticulous, Bryan Kohberger-type planner of crime. Because when I saw him without gloves, it made no sense (unless he's never been fingerprinted for any reason - which is possible).

But then I thought about the various easy ways that criminals disguise their fingerprints - and wondered if he used one of those methods.

Just pondering.

I thought when I saw that he didn't glove his hands, that it was because, yes, he had disguised fingerprints, IF he is a hired assassin, a pro. Pondering too.

 

[CityKid]

I’m aware that this is anthropomorphic, but I feel that NYC itself has been insulted. (I don’t know if my fellow New Yorkers will agree).

This killer murdered a man, a father.

His attitude is to punk the police, punk us citizens, and is doing it all with insouciance. Laughing at the rest of us awaiting his capture.

Clipped for focus. Yes, I am also particularly enraged when someone comes to my home and home city and commits a crime. And none of this is funny.

 

[Lore Listener]

I'm with you, but I extend that it's offensive to the country, not just NYC.

The killer (and associates) picked an easy target to despise. It's super easy to find heart-wrenching stories about denied medical care and insurance hassles. The CEO is the perfect villain for everyone to hate, though essentially nobody even knew his name until Wednesday.

This crime was scripted, imo, to turn us into barbarians cheering for violence on our sidewalks. And they found a handsome leading man to make it all the more exciting.

jmopinion

Reminds me of Bonnie & Clyde. People remember them as good-looking, wild and romantic bank robbers and prison escapees. 20,000 people attended Bonnie's funeral, and they have movies, musicals, songs and books enshrining them as folk heroes.

They actually murdered 12 people, though! That's horrible. But somehow their crime spree spoke to the zeitgeist of desperate people during the Depression enough that popular culture and history have been willing to overlook that.

It's an interesting and baffling phenomenon in social psychology, that's for sure!

 

[VAres67]

Another thought about people supporting this murderer simply because of who he killed...

Well when the copy cat crimes start because people think they will get this same level of notoriety, I hope the target isn't anyone closer to home. What if it's someone you (hypothetical you) know and love that is targeted because their job doesn't align with someone else's idea of how things should go?

BT is being missed in this. This crime I think is being seen as “shooter vs American health insurance”.