Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #198

[Purdue19]

The jurors have been described as a FedEx delivery driver, a school counselor, a stay-at-home mother and two of the jurors are related to police officers.

Delphi murders trial | Defense withdraws request for jury to visit crime scene; trial of Richard Allen begins Friday

Richard Allen is accused of killing Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017.

www.wthr.com

 

[AugustWest]

I certainly respect that you know your profession well.

I can only cite what once happened to me as a prospective juror.

I’m in NYC and maybe the law is different here, but I was released from serving during voir dire. It was very shortly after 9/11. Anthrax was going around because I recall trying to avoid the sidewalk mailbox in front of the court, and I think that was October.

The case was a civil suit, slip and fall against the city.

I cannot quite recall what I was asked 23 years ago, but I was asked something that allowed me to say that with what NYC was going through at the moment, financially besides all else, I would have a hard time having the city forced to pay some lawsuit.

Again I cannot remember how the question was phrased, but I do recollect my answer and I feel that it was determining bias.

I do know bias is the operating basis for voir dire, but we were asked more than education, employment and other factual questions.

What is up, August, with dismissing a juror who dislikes the color green? I cannot conceive of why a question would be asked about something so trivial, nor why the answer was egregious enough for the person to be dismissed.

Thanks if you can illuminate this!

JMO and JME

To be honest, I really can't say why that might have come up, but there are possible reasons. Maybe one of the girls' favorite colors was green. Maybe it was an issue of color psychology. But I don't think it was the only reason for the dismissal, and it might not have been related at all.

Here is more on color psychology:

https://digitalcommons.kean.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1009&context=keanquest

What Are the Best Colors for Your Trial Graphics? | JD Supra

The colors used in trial graphics vary greatly. Here we will dive into the psychology behind colors and how, when, and why certain shades should be...

www.jdsupra.com

 

[susiQ]

For some reason I don't trust what is going on. Call me psychic but I feel there is a reason the defense is moving this fast. Something feels off, but I can't put my finger on it. Deliberately wanting to go through the four alternates? Setting up some type of jury misconduct?

Almost feels like passive aggressive behavior.

Defense conspiracy. I’m convinced of it! MOO

 

[arielilane]

https://fox59.com/delphi-trial/6-jurors-seated-so-far-in-delphi-murders-trial/

Updated: Oct 14, 2024 / 03:23 PM EDT

 

[Salah11]

I have been forced into jury duty twice in the UK in a 7-year span. I wish we had a system where, if I like or dislike a colour, it would get me out of the entire process. If I have the misfortune of being called up again, I have to remember Green as the code word

It sounds like there is a good mixture of people selected so far. So fingers crossed they get justice for the families of Abby and Libby.

Moo

 

[arielilane]

#UPDATE: 11 of the 12 jurors for the #Delphi double murder trial have been chosen.
Including that one more spot to make 12, 4 replacements also need to be picked.

As of now, 7 jurors are women and 4 are men.

I’ll have more updates here soon. @WISHNews8

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845911014182694925

 

[ShamelessObserver]

Media reporting that more video footage will be used at trial.

 

[arielilane]

There is a lot of confusion over whether the #Delphi jurors are actually seated or simply made it to the next "round."
Hopefully I can clear it up.

In Indiana, if I am summoned to jury duty, here's how it usually goes. I show up in the courtroom. The judge will likely ask those of us in the courtroom if we have any disqualifiers (health, age, etc.). Those who do may be asked a few questions and excused.

Of those remaining, the court will call up enough to fill the jury box. The parties will ask questions of those in the jury box. Afterwards, they will inform the court of any challenges for cause and any peremptory strikes. Those who are successfully challenged or struck will be excused by the court.

Those who were not excused are members of the jury. They will not be questioned again. They are ON the jury.

Also, the alternates will know they are alternates throughout the trial. They will not be selected at random later.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845912440728428645

 

[detectivewannab]

What is the best way to follow the trial?

 

[arielilane]

#UPDATE: Here’s what’s new from the first day of jury selection in the #Delphi double murder trial.

- Special Judge Fran Gull first asked potential jurors if they’ve heard about the case, at least 65% of the people in the room raised their hand to say yes.

- Richard Allen was in the courtroom. His hands were not bound to his chest. He was wearing a button down shirt with faint red stripes. He took notes and nodded at potential jurors.

- As of 3:15 p.m., 11 of the 12 jurors have been picked. One more needs to be picked and an additional four alternates.

- 7 of the jurors are women, 4 are men. - At least two of the jurors have a family member in law enforcement.

- The defense plans to call 120 witnesses. Prosecution will call 50.

- Abby Williams’ grandparents were present and taking notes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845917370151526662

 

[Vern]

Dear lord. Are we going down the path of 'look at how blue his eyes are... how soft his hands. Would this nice man be capable of violence? I think not!'

I suppose my question would be, is it normal behaviour to ask such a question in front of potential jurors?

All MOO

Just wait until they find out what else his hands have done.

I am so ready for the evidence to be heard and the conspiracy theories to be shredded.

 

[arielilane]

UPDATE:
11 jurors selected.
7 women
4 men

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845917578277101754

 

[Gemmie]

Dismissed because he doesn't like the color green? Am I missing something here? Green's my favorite color, does that mean I'd get picked?

Could it be as simple as green, or any color for that matter, had absolutely nothing to do with the question? Like... "Have you ever been arrested for a crime", or "Does anyone in your family work for Law Enforcement?".

And they replied with "I don't like the color green."

I think I'd boot them out too. lol

 

[sunshineray]

For some reason I don't trust what is going on. Call me psychic but I feel there is a reason the defense is moving this fast. Something feels off, but I can't put my finger on it. Deliberately wanting to go through the four alternates? Setting up some type of jury misconduct?

Almost feels like passive aggressive behavior.

Yeah what's with the, doesn't he look innocent question? P objected, but the words were out and heard. That's exactly the type of behavior I expect to see by the D's attorneys throughout the trial. MO

 

[Inthedetails]

Yeah what's with the, doesn't he look innocent question? P objected, but the words were out and heard. That's exactly the type of behavior I expect to see by the D's attorneys throughout the trial. MO

If we think statements like that are off-putting and dumb, so will the jury.

jmo

 

[sunshineray]

These aren't the types of questions asked of jurors during voir dire. We ask things about education, background, media consumption, employment. Not about specific facts of the case. The opening statements were given to inform the jurors of baseline information regarding the case.

What's your take on a lawyer, asking a group of prospective jurors while standing with his hands on his client's shoulders, (paraphrasing) Look at this guy, what do you think? Doesn't he look innocent?

 

[sunshineray]

If we think statements like that are off-putting and dumb, so will the jury.

jmo

Hope so

 

[photographer4]

Could it be as simple as green, or any color for that matter, had absolutely nothing to do with the question? Like... "Have you ever been arrested for a crime", or "Does anyone in your family work for Law Enforcement?".

And they replied with "I don't like the color green."

I think I'd boot them out too. lol

Colour psychology is my best guess. There is a whole theory about people who like green vs those who don’t. Moooooo bc no time to google.

 

[sunshineray]

Could it be as simple as green, or any color for that matter, had absolutely nothing to do with the question? Like... "Have you ever been arrested for a crime", or "Does anyone in your family work for Law Enforcement?".

And they replied with "I don't like the color green."

I think I'd boot them out too. lol

I agree with you on that one! Maybe just a person who did not want to serve?

 

[justtrish]

If we think statements like that are off-putting and dumb, so will the jury.

jmo

I agree. And if that wasn't off putting then wait till the D calls 100+ witnesses.. I just can't imagine that many people have something substantial to add to his defense. It seems like throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks... I don't think that is a good way to gain favor with a jury.