Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #206

[photographer4]

“Tunnel vision” over a period of a couple of weeks after 5.5 years of investigating other people. That’s a strange way of describing it.

Why did they decided to go with this random guy versus anyone else that would have looked far better to prosecute?

Probably because that’s where the evidence pointed…

JMO

I am not going to assume to know what they were thinking but I’ll say this - to me, there is a lot of reasonable doubt that RA was Bg. Moo.

 

[tlcya]

The "no angel of a person" seems like a red flag, JMO. His internet history as he mentioned, in relation to the murders, seems to hint that his online activity goes beyond the "usual" activity to something that leans more towards something else. JMO

that is how I took that as well. None of us is perfect let alone an "angel person". I found that an interesting choice of words when confronted with the possibility that LE would view his online activities. Even if there is nothing in that activity that relates specifically to the girls or their murders, I suspect there was something there that he was loath for LE to find. JMO

 

[SouthEnd]

Ok there are confirmed nerds in the jury, and I say this with utmost admiration. Someone from the jury was asking the DNA expert 'how do they eliminate chimera DNA when testing' and I was shocked - it is something that in my decades of following true and fictional crime might have cropped up like once. According to the MS even the DNA expert was impressed with the question.

It was in this episode: The Delphi Murders: Richard Allen on Trial: Day Nine: Crime Scene Analysis

Chimera DNA: Chimera (genetics) - Wikipedia

 

[WildHuncher]

They are acting like a kid that's been caught in a lie. Story just gets bigger.

RA is not BG but anyway, even if you think he is, BG is not the killer so stop blaming BG. Also, RA is not the muddy bloody man but even if you think he is, that man is not the killer. He was just muddy, not bloody. The real killer is somebody NOBODY saw.

 

[photographer4]

But then his bullet shows up at the crime scene.

Imo, A BULLET showed up at the scene, I'm not convinced it was HIS bullet. Moo.

 

[Ursamajr]

All evidence that requires interpretation is circumstantial. Law 101: Legal Guide for the Forensic Expert | Relevancy of Evidence

Direct is video or testimony of someone being seen at the moment of committing the crime.

I'm saying I would prefer there is direct DNA evidence. Example: seminal fluid WITH DNA or blood of the perp to be on the bodies of the victims. Direct DNA evidence.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Doesn't sound like he remembered what footwear he had (I wouldn't have either)... I wonder, did the LE ever test whatever footwear of his they did find in case there was blood or whatever still available to forensics testers? Moo & a question.

I haven't seen anything. They took boots in the search of his home.

When the BG first came out, we must have looked at hundreds of pics trying to find footwear like he was wearing. I don't remember anyone finding what they thought was the brand. Same thing with the jacket. MOO

 

[ClearAhead]

Unlikely in my opinion. I think the girls would have screamed for help from BG if he had pivoted and turned the other way on the bridge as they were suddenly approached by another man. No. He followed the girls in my opinion

I agree. That they reached the end of the trail and had nowhere to go indicates they were forced to retreat towards the end of the bridge in a futile attempt to avoid BG. They probably never intended to cross over the bridge that far but were pushed back by BGs approach, all the while hoping he’d turn around and go away. JMO

 

[photographer4]

I believe this to be true in theory, however, in the confines of the mind of a juror, or jurors, it very well may not be. I can easily imagine a juror's thoughts swirling around the idea that the defense simply didn't prove RA wasn't BG....they might not say it, but they surely can believe it. As in....speculation....well, there's only one guy that was presented as being on the trails, no other witnesses brought forth by defense to show there were any other guys hanging around, Richard Allen says he was on the trails, hence, defense hasn't shown ME (the fictitious juror) proof anyone else could have possibly murdered these girls.

Supposed to be that way? Maybe not. Possible that it is at times, for this ole country boy....yep. Known to anyone that it was the process of thought within the mind of a juror....nope.

For sure - and I think the deliberations could well be very interesting in this matter. A guilty verdict doesn't make RA guilty - just ask the innocence project. Similarly, a not guilty verdict doesn't do much to assure many people of his innocence imo. What a lousy situation! I was really hoping for concrete evidence that would show why the jury should throw away the key and lock this one up for life, but the case has fallen short for me thus far. Remaining open minded as the State hasn't rested yet... MOO.

 

[Ursamajr]

RA is not BG but anyway, even if you think he is, BG is not the killer so stop blaming BG. Also, RA is not the muddy bloody man but even if you think he is, that man is not the killer. He was just muddy, not bloody. The real killer is somebody NOBODY saw.

Proof please! Otherwise it's just "IMO".

 

[shonyakay]

Yes, he said he was wearing his blue jeans and his black Carhartt jacket.

In RA's PCA, RA relayed he was wearing blue jeans and a blue or black jacket.

 

[MassGuy]

Proof please! Otherwise it's just "IMO".

He’s being ironic.

 

[WildHuncher]

Proof please! Otherwise it's just "IMO".

It’s just parody. IMO

 

[flashy09]

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 10| Jury watches Richard Allen's police interviews, testimony on alleged confessions

In the Delphi Murders Trial on Tuesday, video evidence of Richard Allen's interview with police was seen in court for the first time. It was also the first time the court heard Allen's voice.

www.wrtv.com

On Feb. 13th, 2017, Allen told police he visited his mother in Peru that morning from 11:00 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. and went home.

Does 15 minutes sound like a short visit for an hour drive to Peru? I don't know what to make of that, but it seems odd to me.

The above article also says "he walked to the bridge around noon." Leaving at 11:15 is cutting it close to go back home first and yet be on the trail by 12 like his new timeline says. Google says Delphi to Peru is 1hr, 1 minute. I get he is being approximate and we know he has some speeding tickets, but that is really a pretty tight timeline. But I guess he has to find a window of time that isn't 1:30 - 3:30 and isn't with his mother.

 

[photographer4]

Tunnel vision is not what I'd call it; I'd say it is the new focus of the investigation, given the evidence that was unearthed.

MOO

And I'd say the fact that they "misplaced" this information for years on years is just one more thing that concerns me in this case. MOO.

 

[detectivewannab]

RA is not BG but anyway, even if you think he is, BG is not the killer so stop blaming BG. Also, RA is not the muddy bloody man but even if you think he is, that man is not the killer. He was just muddy, not bloody. The real killer is somebody NOBODY saw.

Hey I have some ocean front property in Arizona! You want to buy it?

 

[heartandsoul]

I am not going to assume to know what they were thinking but I’ll say this - to me, there is a lot of reasonable doubt that RA was Bg. Moo.

Is there? What is the reasonable doubt to you? And who do you think was BG? An unidentified male that RA did not himself see?

 

[photographer4]

By his own admission, RA put himself on the bridge, looking at fish.

Mnhm. Still doesn't make him an abductor or a killer. Moo

 

[Ursamajr]

He’s being ironic.

Ah! we need the handy "/s" around these parts!

 

[Melted]

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 10| Jury watches Richard Allen's police interviews, testimony on alleged confessions

In the Delphi Murders Trial on Tuesday, video evidence of Richard Allen's interview with police was seen in court for the first time. It was also the first time the court heard Allen's voice.

www.wrtv.com

On Feb. 13th, 2017, Allen told police he visited his mother in Peru that morning from 11:00 a.m. - 11:15 a.m. and went home.

Does 15 minutes sound like a short visit for an hour drive to Peru? I don't know what to make of that, but it seems odd to me.

The above article also says "he walked to the bridge around noon." Leaving at 11:15 is cutting it close to go back home first and yet be on the trail by 12 like his new timeline says. Google says Delphi to Peru is 1hr, 1 minute. I get he is being approximate and we know he has some speeding tickets, but that is really a pretty tight timeline. But I guess he has to find a window of time that isn't 1:30 - 3:30 and isn't with his mother.

He could have just been running an errand for his mom or dropping something off to her and staying for 15 minutes before getting back to his day. My mother is elderly and lives about 45 minutes from me and more days than not I will take time to stop by and bring her something even if I only hang out for 15 minutes

JMO