NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[BrianJohnson]

Hope am wrong but have a feeling he will get away with it and get a not guilty verdict

I am lucky enough to live in a country where healthcare is free but it is going to be bloody hard to find 12 men and women who have not seen a close relative suffer as a result of an insurance claim

 

[snarast]

DBM

 

[TTF14]

It's sounding like he's just mad at the world because of his chronic, life-altering pain, and chose the insurance industry (that did not wrong him) to lash out at. He could have chosen to lash out at the surgeon who didn't completely heal him, but it sounds like he let the stories of others (i.e. people on Reddit) not being approved for spinal fusion surgery fuel his anger over his own physical problems. Suffering from incel-type emotions without actually being an incel (or can you still be labled an incel if it's physical problems that prevent you from a relationship, not your personality, etc.?). Angry at not being able to live a normal life. His message would go further if he, himself, actually had trouble with insurance companies or couldn't afford treatment!! He just comes off as someone incapable of handling his emotions and lot in life. This isn't even about insurance, in my opinion....he just used it as an excuse to lash out at the world.

Also, it seems as if he may have had issues with holding his bladder (since he suggest urinating on yourself as a good way to get surgery approved) and may have indeed pee himself yesterday. Was bladder incontinence one of his symptoms? That's not the fault of insurance companies, but would be pretty devastating for a stud in his 20s.

He's probably going to be a big suicide risk in prison, not only for simply being arrested, but also because of chronic pain.

As always, this is all just my opinion.

 

[ttjo]

yikes that face!

UnitedHealthcare CEO killing latest: Luigi Mangione's writings revealed

 

[JennieM]

12 min ago

Scenes from side the courtroom where Mangione's lawyer said he would fight extradition to New York​

From CNN's Bonney Kapp

Luigi Mangione is led into the Blair County Courthouse for an extradition hearing on Tuesday, December 10, in Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania.

The suspect in the death of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson entered the Blair County courtroom at 1:55 p.m. ET today, shackled at the hands and feet, wearing an orange prison jumpsuit with DOC emblazoned on the back. His collar was disheveled. He was surrounded by about a half dozen uniformed officers.

Once he sat down, Luigi Mangione unwrapped a piece of paper that he had with him. He sat for about 15 minutes until his attorney came in and quietly conferred with him.

The judge entered at 2:20 p.m.

Mangione, 26, only spoke twice, saying “I do” when sworn in and “Yes, sir” to the judge when asked if he understood his right to contest arrest.

His attorney, Thomas Dickey, objected almost immediately to say the warrant of arrest, which he said he just received, didn’t mention the words “criminal homicide.” District Attorney Peter Weeks said “it does” and Judge Dave Consiglio overruled the objection.

Dickey then said he was challenging extradition.

Weeks ticked through what was found on Mangione when he was apprehended in Altoona, Pennsylvania, on Monday. He said it included a forged license, a gun, a silencer and ammunition, bags, multiple masks, $8,000, $2,000 in foreign currency and a passport. He also said Mangione was a transient and evaded detection for law enforcement before asking the judge to deny bail.

Dickey said because the charge doesn’t carry a life sentence without parole, the judge should impose a bail. In addition, he cited the presumption of innocence and said his client had no prior criminal history. He said electric monitoring such as a bracelet could be used to track Mangione’s whereabouts if granted bail.

Consiglio then ruled Mangione had 14 days to file for habeas corpus – and, if obtained, a new hearing would be scheduled. The judge gave the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 30 days to obtain a governor’s warrant and denied bail, saying Mangione would remain at SCI Huntingdon.

The court quickly adjourned and Mangione was escorted out of the room.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-12-10-24/index.html?t=1733863969671

 

[Warwick7]

Hope am wrong but have a feeling he will get away with it and get a not guilty verdict

I am lucky enough to live in a country where healthcare is free but it is going to be bloody hard to find 12 men and women who have not seen a close relative suffer as a result of an insurance claim

This what I see unfolding.

In msm I've never seen such hostility towards the insurance companies for the medical field.

 

[JennieM]

1 min ago

New York governor plans to submit warrant for suspect's extradition from Pennsylvania​

From CNN's Gloria Pazmino and Kara Scannell
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul plans to submit a warrant for Luigi Mangione’s extradition from Pennsylvania, a spokesperson for her office confirmed to CNN.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office said that it will seek that warrant in order to secure Mangione’s extradition back to the state to face charges for the alleged killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.


3 min ago

White House denounces CEO killing, saying "violence to combat any sort of corporate greed is unacceptable"​

From CNN's Michael Williams

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre speaks during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington, on Tuesday, December 10.
The White House on Tuesday denounced last week’s killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York, saying that “violence to combat any sort of corporate greed is unacceptable.”

Press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre offered her condolences to Thompson’s loved ones and said the federal government stands ready “to provide further support if needed” to local and state authorities investigating the killing. A 26-year-old man was arrested Monday in Pennsylvania and charged with murder in Thompson’s death.

“And so, while we’re certainly not going to comment on the investigation, we condemn — we condemn violence in the strongest term,” Jean-Pierre said at Tuesday’s press briefing.

“Obviously, this is horrific. Violence to combat any sort of corporate greed is unacceptable,” she added. “I’m going to let the investigation move forward, and I’m not going to speak to any manifestos or anything that is coming out to this.”

Asked directly whether Americans are treated fairly by their insurance companies, Jean-Pierre demurred, saying: “I’m going to let this open investigation continue and let the law enforcement do their job.”

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-12-10-24/index.html?t=1733864091969

 

[Boodles]

Am not US based so not sure about the procedures but is there any way a jury trial could be avoided and the case decided by a panel of judges?

I don’t know about New York State, but a “bench trial,” where a judge is the “jury” is available in at least some states. But that will never happen with this case. The defense, if it goes to trial, will rely on a juror sympathy factor.

 

[bestill]

I'm thinking our newest arrested perp is going to be quite a handful. He's entitled, used to getting his way (probably his entire life since he's the youngest in the family, only boy), arrogantly uses his self proclaimed intelligence to intimidate and persuade. I think those of us that see through him are going to grow to loathe him more and more. I can only imagine how the victims family is feeling watching the arrogant ahole. I don't expect LE appreciates these outbursts either.

 

[Inthedetails]

this was definitely somewhere on our bingo card.

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Another school shooting is almost guaranteed on our bingo card, but that doesn't mean we cheer for it.

jmo

 

[Warwick7]

That's interesting. My family tell me that they can't tell my pain levels at all, by how I hold my body. I have spondylolisthesis too. I have very bad days and some moderate days. Those closest to me say I'm stoic and that they cannot tell if I'm in pain.

It's been 15 years since the major injury that caused the slippage. I am never *not* in pain.

And I've had other painful ailments (like TN - which may win the prize for most painful thing I've ever experienced, and I'm including natural labor and delivery as well as kidney stones). When I went to the hospital for those two births, my then-husband had to explain to the nurse that I don't show pain easily in my face. I'm sometimes called inscrutable. I'd say that my first labor reached 10 out of 10 on a pain scale and the TN was worse than that.

Not only that, but my first piece of applied medical/psychiatric research was on the ways different people express pain, with a focus on nationalities and ethnicities. Not everyone shows pain in the same way. I do believe my dad was equally non-showing of pain.

The research we did at a major research hospital showed that not everyone shows pain on their face (or yells or cries or tenses their body in a particular way).

IMO

 

[Columbo Was The Best]

This what I see unfolding.

In msm I've never seen such hostility towards the insurance companies for the medical field.

What has really surprised me (watching this from the other side of the world) is pharmacists and nurses also participating in the debate and telling of the number of people they have witnessed to have had their lives wrecked by health insurance companies. I was expecting there would be testimonies from patients/people with insurance, but not from staff in the professions in the health field.

 

[JudyBolton]

I can't be the only one who finds it depraved and sickening that people are actually celebrating and now lusting after this coward who executed a father by shooting him in the back? There's a whole bunch of people leaving negative reviews for the McDonalds and trying to dox the employee who called the police. Absolutely sick behavior and just depressing.

It's quite shocking that there are people like this living among us! I feel the same way about the women who are "in love" with Wade Wilson. These are just depraved minds!

 

[bestill]

He has livened up! He looked beaten when they arrested him.

This is his new war!

 

[Big Ears]

i think officers are readying to bring him out of the courthouse. Sheriff just came out to ask for cooperation from photogs. Source: Reuters Live

 

[browneyes]

59 min ago

District attorney's office will work with police to ensure evidence is ready for trial, retired detective says​

From CNN's Elise Hammond

The case of the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is a “heavy case” for law enforcement and prosecutors as they work to go through a mountain of recovered evidence, one retired NYPD detective said.

David Sami told CNN described it as a “multifaceted, heavy case” with a lot of documentation and evidence.

He said the district attorneys office is now going to work with the police department to make sure they have “all the ducks in a row” as they sort through what has been recovered so far and make sure it is ready for trial.

New York prosecutors charged Luigi Mangione with murder and four other charges related to the fake ID and firearm, court documents show. The suspect was arrested in Pennsylvania yesterday when an employee at a local McDonald’s recognized him and called police.

When asked about the suspect sitting at the restaurant for so long, Sami said it could have been that the man thought he was “hiding in plain sight.”

“One thing is you’re dealing with a customer service employee who really sees everybody and that’s what helped the police identify him,” Sami said.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-12-10-24/index.html?t=1733862626885

Regarding the comment about how long LM was in McDonald’s and hiding in plain sight….had his bus already departed? I assumed it was a regular stop onto another destination. I wonder where he was headed next?

 

[VAres67]

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Another school shooting is almost guaranteed on our bingo card, but that doesn't mean we cheer for it.

jmo

Certainly. Hopefully lawmakers will start addressing guns and healthcare.

 

[Chimera]

What Luigi Mangione's social media accounts reveal about him

The murder suspect in the shooting of a healthcare CEO had an active online presence. Claudia Cockerell on what Luigi Mangione’s digital footprint reveals about him, from a life of chronic pain to an interest in violent protest

www.standard.co.uk

The murder suspect in the shooting of a healthcare CEO had an active online presence. Claudia Cockerell on what Luigi Mangione’s digital footprint reveals about him, from a life of chronic pain to an interest in violent protest

Accused Killer Luigi Mangione's Supposed Reddit Posts Show Mindset

The 26-year-old's account appears to have been discovered by other Reddit users on Monday.

patch.com

In the r/spondylolisthesis community back in April, Mangione posted advice to other users saying: "Keep trying different surgeons. ‘Nobody will operate on my back until I’m at least 40’ is nonsense coming from a medical professional who lacks perspective.”

Given what is known about his background, one would assume LM was not without connections to get help sooner than when he turns 40 ?

Again it appeared from the security cam. of the shooting and the latest sighting of him fighting law enforcement as they bundled him into the courtroom building -- LM appears to be functioning in a manner that suggests he is capable of normal motor functions ?

Even if he had to use a cane or wheelchair, you can't go around killing people because you have pain or a disability.
LM comes across as a major injustice collector at this time, imo.
Just not sure how his disabilities or lack of coverage will play out in court during his trial.
I'm assuming there will be a trial.
Omo.

 

[BUF]

I would imagine after being sent to a prison last night after being taken into custody, reality has seemed to hit LM.

 

[ttjo]

I'm thinking our newest arrested perp is going to be quite a handful. He's entitled, used to getting his way (probably his entire life since he's the youngest in the family, only boy), arrogantly uses his self proclaimed intelligence to intimidate and persuade. I think those of us that see through him are going to grow to loathe him more and more. I can only imagine how the victims family is feeling watching the arrogant ahole. I don't expect LE appreciates these outbursts either.

makes you wonder what he was taking to manage his pain. Maybe withdrawal also, that rage, I've seen it before.