Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #198

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  • #461
Perhaps they are not officially jurors until they've been sworn?
 
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Snipped.

I agree. For such an "ordinary" looking person without particularly distinguishing features, he looks different from photo to photo....and police artist sketches!

jmo

Yeah, he’s a chameleon but he’s cornered now.

Let the truth come out.

I’ll be in Florida tmw and all next week taking care of parents but I’ll check in here to find out what’s going on, if I can’t find it on TV.

Here at home my cable provider ditched Court TV as soon as the Murdaugh trial ended, and I’m not a podcast fan, but I know my homies here will know all!

Justice for you, Abby. Justice for you, Libby. Peace for your families.

JMO
 
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Yes but was it like an opening statement or like just the facts, no spin either way?
In my limited experience in a civil and in a criminal case, it was facts but presented from a point of view.

For example, the civil case involved materials that caused cancer but we were told the injured person also was a smoker. Those were straight facts, but also was stated in a way that let us know the defendant was going to blame the plaintiff for the illness, pre-empting any impact that tactic would have on the jury, imo. In that case, we were told names, too, but asked not to reveal the names to anyone or look them up - and that was before any jury was seated or even questioned.

In the criminal case, we were told by the defense about the injuries the victim suffered, which probably softened the blow of learning about them during trial. We were "conditioned," imo.

I didn't make it past voir dire because I had odd connections in each case, unknown to me until those mini presentations.

jmo
 
  • #465
Psychic no doubt foresaw their dismissal last night.
 
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The theory that the girls were molested may not be supported by autopsy findings, however, because the girls were found unclothed, except Abby who had been redressed, can there really be any doubt about them being molested by RA? JMO
I’m not an expert so I can’t answer those questions, I guess it would depend on the type of SA etc.

But what I am sure of is that they would of found evidence of the girls being shot in the backs

My opinion only.
 
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So when they word it as 6 POTENTIAL jurors have been seated does that mean they are jurors or not? That word potential is not clear. Is it because some will be alternates or is this just narrowing down the 300 to a smaller group and then they are selected from that group? Maybe I'm over thinking this.. lol
I doubt any jurors have been “seated” yet, but have been selected to the group where attorneys will eventually go through their peremptory challenges. Not sure how many each side are allowed in Indiana.

moo
 
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Wow! I wondered if 300 potential jurors would be enough, but I'm not worried now. They are MOVING.

Feels so strange after all this time that the pace is clipping now.

jmo
A relief for sure. Fingers crossed for justice for Libby and Abby!
 
  • #471
I doubt any jurors have been “seated” yet, but have been selected to the group where attorneys will eventually go through their peremptory challenges. Not sure how many each side are allowed in Indiana for a death penalty case.

moo
Just to clear things up, this isn’t a death penalty case.

JMO
 
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Psychic no doubt foresaw their dismissal last night.
Either that or a clever ploy to be freed up for the next 5 to 6 weeks?? JMHO
 
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12 jurors & 4 alternates will selected & will be sworn in per Gull on 10/17.
 
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The theory that the girls were molested may not be supported by autopsy findings, however, because the girls were found unclothed, except Abby who had been redressed, can there really be any doubt about them being molested by RA? JMO
From the hearings, I came away thinking he certainly shamed and humiliated them by making them undress, a certain assault in my mind. Something made him change his mind about Abby, at some point, he let her cover up. I think he then mortally wounded and incapacitated her causing Libby to fight and flee. That's when the slashing attack on Libby began and that struggle ended by the tree, with him then dragging her back to where she started her flight. Whether anything was done after death, we only know he covered Libby half way with leaves and both somewhat with branches.

The disregard of one with full-blown savagery towards the other </3
 
  • #478
12 jurors & 4 alternates will selected & will be sworn in per Gull on 10/17.
I appreciate your fact-based answers so much!
 
  • #479
I absolutely agree with this.

In the back of my mind, I also can't 100% discount the possibility that the gun portion of one of the confessions was a case of "telephone" game" by the person who heard. For example, if he said "I pushed the gun into one girl's back" (to control her) but what the hearer later told people was "I shot one girl in the back" out of simple mishearing or just wrong assumptions.
I agree. If and when that statement is explained by the person who heard, it will have context.
 
  • #480
12 jurors & 4 alternates will selected & will be sworn in per Gull on 10/17.
Only 4 for such a long trial. Hope that's enough alternates.
 
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