Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #200

[ClearAhead]

WHY did she look for it at all? I'm surprised.

Maybe a tip was received on RA who had told the tipster he’d reported he’d been at the trails to LE that day and was ‘cleared’. So she was assigned the task of locating this interaction? Not everything has to be suspicious. MOO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

WHY did she look for it at all? I'm surprised.

The way I heard it in the MS podcast was it was the TIME RA said he was on the trails 1:30-3:30pm that caught their attention as they were doing a review of information. They had definitely overlooked that. I think it was after they decided they needed to talk to him again that they discovered the name had been messed up.
My guess is they contacted DD who did the interview to ask about the name problem and he told it was RA. I think they knew each other, if I remember right.

 

[katydid23]

Bombshell is in the eye of the beholder.

As always, JMO.

Does anyone think it's a bombshell that her hand has female hair on it that belongs to a sister or cousin?

 

[m00c0w]

If I’m reading this right, it looks like the round recovered from the scene is Winchester and Blazer rounds were taken from his loaded magazines.

So I don’t think there’s evidence that matching rounds were recovered from his house, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

_Certificate of Analysis from ISP Laboratory Division – B.pdf

drive.google.com

I don’t think that’s correct. They reference a different case and item number when discussing the toolmark comparison.

That item number is correct when cross-referenced to the appropriate certificate of analysis under the referenced second case, which is at page 276 here:

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2023/06/DelphiDocumentsCombined.pdf

In short, we don’t know what the brand of ammo found at the scene was. I believe both Blazer and Winchester were found at the house during the SW.

JMO

 

[Vern]

There is a problem, IMO. BM hosts a podcast that is breaching gag order by discussing details he gets straight from the defense attorneys. And his podcast makes false accusations against the P. Motta helped make that fake bombshell about the hair explode publicly---and it was fake and meaningless.

The defense is flooding the public with their fake 'bombshells' through Mottas podcast. If he was objective and unbiased that would be another thing altogether.

Exactly. BM is not at the trial in his capacity as a defese attorney.

He is there in his capacity as a podcaster ... ergo should be treated as such and subject to the same "Court Rules" as the rest of them are.

 

[steeltowngirl]

There is a problem, IMO. BM hosts a podcast that is breaching gag order by discussing details he gets straight from the defense attorneys. And his podcast makes false accusations against the P. Motta helped make that fake bombshell about the hair explode publicly---and it was fake and meaningless.

The defense is flooding the public with their fake 'bombshells' through Mottas podcast. If he was objective and unbiased that would be another thing altogether.

Yep. How is this ok if he’s sitting at the table with defense?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847427286535991372

 

[ClearAhead]

Carter said he believes the killer lives in, works in or frequents the Delphi area, but he declined to elaborate on why he believes that.

"One day I'll be able to tell you. I can't wait for that day," Carter said. "We are doing everything within our power ... and when we run out of tips, we're going to start over again."

Witness in Delphi double murder likely afraid to come forward, investigator says

It's been more than two years since young Abby Williams and Libby German were found dead in Delphi, Indiana, but investigators believe they're close to finding their killer.

6abc.com

The reference to revisiting tips was made more than once iirc, as well as the prediction LE had talked to the suspect early on seems as if LE had RA in their radar for quite some time, however were unable to identify him. JMO

 

[zh0r4]

At 45:23 the YouTuber says that defense claims that in June 2017 SC didn’t say bloody - what is the source of that contention?

Source: page 105-108; 115-117
https://www.scribd.com/document/672126677/DELPHI-Memorandum-in-Support-of-Motion-

 

[TTF14]

DBM. Nevermind. I'll Google it.

 

[m00c0w]

There is a problem, IMO. BM hosts a podcast that is breaching gag order by discussing details he gets straight from the defense attorneys. And his podcast makes false accusations against the P. Motta helped make that fake bombshell about the hair explode publicly---and it was fake and meaningless.

The defense is flooding the public with their fake 'bombshells' through Mottas podcast. If he was objective and unbiased that would be another thing altogether.

Yes. He was the one that came out and clarified it was human DNA, which was rightfully questioned here. It was rationalized that he just made the inference based on his extensive knowledge at guessing about things, I suppose. Now they’re not even trying to hide the collusion.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

Well worth a listen. An eye opener and informative podcast about day one of trial. jmo

The Delphi Murders: Richard Allen On Trial: Day One: Opening Statements and More

Episodes

Episodes

murdersheetpodcast.com

 

[zh0r4]

The ISP released this in 2019 to clarify the sketches.

bbm

April 24, 2019

“Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches

Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40's to 50's was a person of interest in this murder investigation. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task: Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.

It is important to distinguish these points about the two sketches:

• They are not the same person
• The person depicted in the originally released sketch is not presently a person of interest in this investigation
• The sketch released on April 22nd is representative of the face of the person captured in the video on Liberty German's cell phone as he was walking on the high bridge
• The person in the sketch released April 22d is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20's to late 30's
• This person's appearance could look different today if he has grown a mustache, beard or let his hair grow longer or cut his hair shorter than depicted in the sketch

“

Pic related of announcement:



This is confusing.

Sources:

Delphi murders: New suspect sketch not same man as in old sketch, ISP clarifies
Delphi murders: New suspect sketch not same man as in old sketch, ISP clarifies

Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches
Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches ·

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Interesting, since there is zero connection between RA & the girls.

And wasn’t Abbie redressed in Libby’s clothing? IMO

 

[m00c0w]

DBM. Nevermind. I'll Google it.

Well, we know there is a gag order in place. This gag order includes the defense team. If he’s sitting at the defense table, it certainly appears he’s on the defense team. If he’s on the defense team, he’s repeatedly violated the gag order in the last few days.

This is just kind of bizarre behavior, to be completely honest.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

My opinions only.

 

[ClearAhead]

There is a problem, IMO. BM hosts a podcast that is breaching gag order by discussing details he gets straight from the defense attorneys. And his podcast makes false accusations against the P. Motta helped make that fake bombshell about the hair explode publicly---and it was fake and meaningless.

The defense is flooding the public with their fake 'bombshells' through Mottas podcast. If he was objective and unbiased that would be another thing altogether.

Yep it’s as if he’s tasked with PR for the defense. Anyone notice subtle pro-defense comments made on SM in advance to MSM reporting the D making the same statements in the courtroom? How is that happening?

Wonder if BM is getting paid?

Oh well, attempting to influence public opinion won’t ensure the verdict will go the same way. It simply reaffirms the stereotype of a defense team lacking in scruples. JMO MOO

 

[TTF14]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847649099853562025

I thought Libby wasn't wearing what she was originally reported to be wearing, though? Didn't Libby's grandma say yesterday she must have changed before she went to the trails since Abby was found in Libby's clothing that was not what was originally reported? I'm really confused now.

Or, did she have on the tie-dye T-shirt still, just not the sweatpants (but jeans instead)?

As always, JMO.

 

[m00c0w]

I thought Libby wasn't wearing what she was originally reported to be wearing, though? Didn't Libby's grandma say yesterday she must have changed before she went to the trails since Abby was found in Libby's clothing that was not what was originally reported? I'm really confused now.

Or, did she have on the tie-dye T-shirt still, just not the sweatpants (but jeans instead)?

As always, JMO.

I believe she had on the tie dye shirt, the biggest discrepancy has been the pants.

JMO

 

[jillybean51]

I’ve considered a motive of a man who felt emasculated at home, choosing to wield power and violence on the girls.

“We know this is about power to you.”
- Supt. Doug Carter

jmo

It’s so hard to believe that this was his first rodeo.

 

[MiniMoo]

There is a problem, IMO. BM hosts a podcast that is breaching gag order by discussing details he gets straight from the defense attorneys. And his podcast makes false accusations against the P. Motta helped make that fake bombshell about the hair explode publicly---and it was fake and meaningless.

The defense is flooding the public with their fake 'bombshells' through Mottas podcast. If he was objective and unbiased that would be another thing altogether.

In my humble opinion:

If those allegations had any truth to them surely Bob Motta would be banned and even possibly disbarred for such misconduct - if it is misconduct.

Also, he is a Defense Attorney and therefore it makes sense, to me, that he would look through the lens of one when it comes to Defense versus Prosecution in no matter what he addresses.

As for this hair explosion claim - how did he make that explode?

You obviously have concerns and that is understandable, but I don't.

JMO JMT MOO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847608359307870488