Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #201

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So, theoretically, he could be found guilty of felony murder (if he is proven to be bridge guy by the prosecution) but not guilty of murder?
Just trying to lay this all out in my head!
Yes. Committing a felony that leads to a person's death is 'felony murder.'

Robbing a store, and that ends up killing the clerk in any way - even if you are not the shooter is felony murder.

Kidnapping that leads to the victim's death is felony murder.

Etc.
 
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Of note:

The bullet found after moving the bodies of Abby and Libby was not easy to see. It was found using a blue light that showed a sparkle.

Sounds like this clarifies that the bullet was not found days after the murder, after the scene was released, as has been claimed and speculated on in the past.

JMO
The bullet was point down and depressed into the ground.

Max described it as a contentious cross examination.
 
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So he wasn’t an investigator at the crime scene? Geez, it certainly was discussed in detail here in WS, IIRC.

No, he was a police officer/assistant chief in a different town and his nexus with the investigation was being asked by two ISP detectives to help operate video equipment when they interviewed a person who was a possible POI.
 
  • #345
The bullet was point down and depressed into the ground.

Max described it as a contentious cross examination.
Does that mean it was fired into the ground?

I know nothing about guns so forgive me if that's a dumb question.

jmo
 
  • #346
Yet another conspiracy debunked.
lol. And the comments are exactly what I’m talking about. I’m not blaming Angela, but the tweet says: “This investigator was not aware of a rape kit being done on either victim.”

And naturally the comments are all over the investigators for not performing a rape kit, all because this particular person wasn’t in charge of that aspect.

That’s literally one of the first things they would have done at autopsy.
 
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Does that mean it was fired into the ground?

I know nothing about guns so forgive me if that's a dumb question.

jmo
It wasn't fired. It was ejected from the gun.
 
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lol. And the comments are exactly what I’m talking about. I’m not blaming Angela, but the tweet says: “This investigator was not aware of a rape kit being done on either victim.”

And naturally the comments are all over the investigators for not performing a rape kit, all because this particular person wasn’t in charge of that aspect.

That’s literally one of the first things they would have done at autopsy.
yeah, the ole game of telephone.
 
  • #349
Does that mean it was fired into the ground?

I know nothing about guns so forgive me if that's a dumb question.

jmo
No, nothing has changed in that regard. It’s just that the bullet was partially buried, and pointing vertically and not horizontally as one would normally expect.
 
  • #350
It wasn't fired. It was ejected from the gun.
And probably stepped on. Embedding it to a degree.

No conspiracy. It's exactly what it is. An ejected cartridge from a gun used to control victims.

JMO
 
  • #351
One thing that makes me really happy, if "happy" could be an emotion that I feel on this sad and emotional day, is that the crime scene techs were so experienced. We heard a lot in the intervening years from people who said "well the Delphi police likely didn't know how to analyse a crime scene" and for all we know that may be true, but the people who had to deal with this were, ultimately, very experienced at what they do, being part of ISP.
Insane. People are so ignorant - but strongly opinionated - about how criminal investigations proceed. The head of the Indiana State Police and the head FBI agent in Indiana led the investigation from the moment the girls were found murdered. That is addressed in the first press conference, Feb. 22nd, 2017

JMO
 
  • #352
It wasn't fired. It was ejected from the gun.
Yes, duh! I knew that, but sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain works.

Thanks!

jmo
 
  • #353
We still haven't seen a transcript of a single one of those 60 "confessions" have we?

It’s only Day 3, all in good time. I think the jury first has to be introduced to the murders RA confessed to.
 
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Exactly this! When I build a fire, I criss-cross the sticks so they don’t roll off onto the ground. It’s just a way to support the next level of sticks.

jmo

RA having been in the national guard is probably familiar with rough terrain and utilizing sticks for a variety of reasons.
 
  • #355
lol. And the comments are exactly what I’m talking about. I’m not blaming Angela, but the tweet says: “This investigator was not aware of a rape kit being done on either victim.”

And naturally the comments are all over the investigators for not performing a rape kit, all because this particular person wasn’t in charge of that aspect.

That’s literally one of the first things they would have done at autopsy.
However, in my opinion, MSM loves the defense for stirring up controversy that leads to clickbait headlines.

JMO
 
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I've always respected your ideas. I can see no way this whole thing plays out according the the P's timeline theory. Can you make it work?

I know your response isn't to me but I am curious as to what part of the timeline you have an issue with.
 
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However, in my opinion, MSM loves the defense for stirring up controversy that leads to clickbait headlines.

JMO
I really have no reason to believe it was intentional, but it’s had a tremendous effect on social media already. I predicted that would happen before it happened, because it happens all the time. It’s a bigger deal here though, because the investigation is already under the microscope, and there’s no smoking gun like there is in many other cases we follow.
 
  • #360
Everything the P is saying makes sense to me. Only one point thus far disappointed me:
(RSBM)
>>They found no noticeable shoe impressions in the area.


Not the LE's fault at all, I would have just preferred there to have been usable footprints.

MOO
 
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