GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #216

[minor4th]

In FM3 the defense said these three people had no connection to RA. So yes who they are is known. There is no connection between these people and the crime imo or we certainly would have heard about it.

Were these people interviewed? They could have seen or heard something.

 

[arielilane]

It amazes me that people buy into the conspiracy theory. Every criminal case is not a conspiracy [moo].

Also, moo, people usually do what the prosecution have said the defendant of a criminal case did.

It is usually bloggers, YTubers, etc. who like to buy into conspiracy theories for clicks, likes, subscribers, money [moo,again].

Regarding Abby & Libby, they solved their own case, and the prosecution put the pieces of puzzle together in a court of law, and the jury got it right!

Hoping the loved ones of Abby & Libby are healing and have a little bit of peace. They are the ones who will forever be changed from the loss of Abby & Libby.

If Richard Allen really wanted to apologize to the families he would let this go, he knows what he did. [moo]

So very thankful, Richard Allen will never murder another child again, ever! One evil monster off the streets is a win!

 

[dotr]

Nov 12, 2024
Monday afternoon’s verdict marked an emotional day for those in the community who have waited years for justice to be served.We've seen a lot of different reactions Monday, but two people we spoke with were happy this chapter is closed in Delphi's history.This case has transformed the identity of this small city in Carroll County.

 

[IceIce9]

It amazes me that people buy into the conspiracy theory. Every criminal case is not a conspiracy [moo].

Also, moo, people usually do what the prosecution have said the defendant of a criminal case did.

It is usually bloggers, YTubers, etc. who like to buy into conspiracy theories for clicks, likes, subscribers, money [moo,again].

Regarding Abby & Libby, they solved their own case, and the prosecution put the pieces of puzzle together in a court of law, and the jury got it right!

Hoping the loved ones of Abby & Libby are healing and have a little bit of peace. They are the ones who will forever be changed from the loss of Abby & Libby.

If Richard Allen really wanted to apologize to the families he would let this go, he knows what he did. [moo]

So very thankful, Richard Allen will never murder another child again, ever! One evil monster off the streets is a win!

 

[shonyakay]

Were these people interviewed? They could have seen or heard something.

Maybe @mrjitty could shed some light on this.

 

[Betty P]

possibly. IF RA is suggestible because of DPD and his reliance on others to do his decision making, then his attorneys may have done him an even greater disservice than I initially believed.

No offense intended, but I don't see how a cold-blooded pederast and killer of young girls is dependent on anyone. That's a personality type that likes to have control of other people. They live secret lives and thus hide those aspects of their personality from others, but at their core they are selfish, manipulative, sadistic people.

Someone who has the ability to kidnap young girls, then spend an hour or so sexually assaulting them, fighting them, forcing them to disrobe and redress, then cutting their throats is an independent, fearless, mentally powerful person. A fearful, insecure, dependent, shy person couldn't do all that, then go home to family and work like nothing happened.

JMO, it's all an act, a way to manipulate others into doing the things he's too lazy to do. By his own admission, he was a sex addict who liked having other people work, pay the bills and handle the hard stuff in life so he could spend his time indulging his sick private life.

ETA: We've heard people in court say that Allen's voice sounds like the recording of BG. Has anyone yet come across any kind of recording of his voice? I'd like to hear it. TIA

 

[m00c0w]

Were these people interviewed? They could have seen or heard something.

Yes.

 

[tlcya]

No offense intended, but I don't see how a cold-blooded pederast and killer of young girls is dependent on anyone. That's a personality type that likes to have control of other people. They live secret lives and thus hide those aspects of their personality from others, but at their core they are selfish, manipulative, sadistic people.

Someone who has the ability to kidnap young girls, then spend an hour or so sexually assaulting them, fighting them, forcing them to disrobe and redress, then cutting their throats is an independent, fearless, mentally powerful person. A fearful, insecure, dependent, shy person couldn't do all that, then go home to family and work like nothing happened.

JMO, it's all an act, a way to manipulate others into doing the things he's too lazy to do. By his own admission, he was a sex addict who liked having other people work, pay the bills and handle the hard stuff in life so he could spend his time indulging his sick private life.

ETA: We've heard people in court say that Allen's voice sounds like the recording of BG. Has anyone yet come across any kind of recording of his voice? I'd like to hear it. TIA

If you know me and my posts in this case you know I have zero doubts RA is the killer. My point was IF RA actually suffers from a mental health disorder, that disorder may have played into him WRONGLY putting his confidence in his legal counsel.

JMO you may be correct in all of the above. Which is why my post stated IF. Meaning it was speculation. MOO we've had enough dissent in this case and its threads over the years. It is counter productive for those of us who feel a just verdict was delivered to argue amongst ourselves about the minutia. MOO We don't have to agree but I actually think we agree about more than we don't.

ETA I have never heard a recording of Richard Allen's voice either and would very much like to. I think after the gag order is lifted beyond the December sentencing date, we will get to hear the LE interviews done with him in October of 2022 and maybe some of the phone calls from prison. At least I am hoping we will.

 

[arielilane]

@SusanHendricks

The jury believed the man known as “bridge guy” was Richard Allen. Guilty on all 4 counts. Sentencing on December 20th #abby #libby #delphi #bridgeguy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856749026969821684

 

[GA_Peach]

Did they address the two suspect sketches at trial? If so, would someone mind letting me know what they said.

 

[Vaderman]

Did they address the two suspect sketches at trial? If so, would someone mind letting me know what they said.

The sketches were not admitted.

https://fox59.com/delphi-trial/defense-argues-why-composite-sketches-should-be-used-in-delphi-murders-trial/

Reports: Delphi suspect sketches will not be permitted in court, judge rules

The judge overseeing the trial against the man accused of 2017 killing of Delphi teens ruled suspect sketches will not be permitted in court.

www.jconline.com

 

[Arkay]

JMHO

I am not well-versed enough in abnormal psychology to figure out what drove Richard Allen.

I vacillate between him being manipulative or dependent or having childhood trauma or whatever it may be. Was he born this way, did something happen that made him this way, I don’t know.

I do know that he is the murderer and the world now knows it too.

“Bridge Guy”is now an obsolete title.

There is only Richard Allen.

JMO

 

[GA_Peach]

The sketches were not admitted.

https://fox59.com/delphi-trial/defense-argues-why-composite-sketches-should-be-used-in-delphi-murders-trial/

Reports: Delphi suspect sketches will not be permitted in court, judge rules

The judge overseeing the trial against the man accused of 2017 killing of Delphi teens ruled suspect sketches will not be permitted in court.

www.jconline.com

I can understand why the defense would have wanted them admitted.

I am also finishing listening the Murder Sheet podcast about the evidence, but there really hasn't been much new that has been revealed. I always thought that his sighting of the 3 girls and vice versa would be very problematic for him.

 

[Willow Knight]

If we really want to know who a killer is, I guess we can always go and check if they grew two inches on the fishing license. Lol!!

Behind on the thread, want to add supporting information as I find it. April, two months after murders.

Dulin learned a change had been made to Allen's height in April 2017. It had been 5'4", but was switched to to 5'6" on his fishing license. Allen's weight also dropped by 15 pounds.

"I just thought it was uncommon," said Dulin.

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 6 | No other report of Allen on trails other than self-reported tip

Six witnesses took the stand on Thursday in Day 6 of the Delphi Murders Trial with testimony focusing on the early stages of the case against Richard Allen.

www.wrtv.com

 

[arielilane]

@BobSegallWTHR

WTHR has already submitted a request to have a camera in the courtroom for the sentencing. No reason to believe Judge Gull will grant that request but have to try anyway.

12:48 PM · Nov 13, 2024

 

[Vern]

Proliferation of Aussies in here today mates!! Must be out of Vegemite sandwichs to chew on. Lots here that have been here all along and some who said they were leaving too. Makes for lively debates of the wouldofs, couldofs, shouldofs.

One thing is a million percent certain today: Richard Allen is still a double child killer.

There's really nothing left to debate about that. Want to know why something was or was not brought out at trial? We'll have to wait like all the other good folks until this killer's sentencing is over and the gag order is off. Great questions for the Defence Team as to why they didn't present some of this stuff. And maybe then, they'll provide us with that long list of 'exonerating evidence' their supporters have been claiming they've got. And then we can wonder why the heck they didn't bring forth that exhaustive "exonerating evidence" during and within the Franks', during the 3 Day Hearings or during the trial itself as their show cause.

Bring on the sentencing. Bring on the end of the gag order. Bring on those who will then come forward with their personal thoughts and stories on the double child killer they know and knew: one Richard Allen. You just know - those are coming.

And hey Judge Gull: Bring on the cameras in the courtroom for sentencing.

IMO.

 

[BUF]

@BobSegallWTHR

WTHR has already submitted a request to have a camera in the courtroom for the sentencing. No reason to believe Judge Gull will grant that request but have to try anyway.

12:48 PM · Nov 13, 2024

I’m glad the media put the request in, but would be surprised if she allowed cameras at the sentencing.

The families have been so quiet since Richard Allen’s arrest. This will be a time when they can release what they have wanted to say for so long in their victim impact statements, and so many of us want to hear it… they deserve it to be heard, not some reporters handwritten notes that are better than nothing, but lose all the emotion as they are written.

If the judge is worried about any security thing, the video can be released after sentencing.

 

[Ravenmoon]

Actually, he just stated he was there that day looking at the fish.

He stated:
He was physically on the bridge

He was there between 1:30 and 3:30 PM

He was dressed the same as bridge guy

He parked at an old building ( later identified as the CPS building)

He saw the 3 girls who verified that brief encounter

He said he wanted to sexually assault both Abby and Libby, was interrupted and opted to murder them instead .

He said he left the dead girls and just went on to live his life


The jury believed him.

I do too.


AJMO

 

[mrjitty]

Regarding what little I know from the geofencing data.

This is from Motion in Limine Day 3.

Nick M. stated that geofencing is unreliable and the State will not use geofencing for probable causes because it is so inaccurate.

FBI CAST agent Kevin Horan testified that there was data placing other people in the area. There was a device at the cemetery shortly before the murders'.

The State got tower dumps from Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, (and one more that I couldn't decipher).

Horan left a list for the Unified Command Center to follow up on.

Google data is very accurate within 3 to 5 meters, versus geofencing.

Horan's testimony was extremely short.

Thanks! So he did testify.

 

[ClearAhead]

I can understand why the defense would have wanted them admitted.

I am also finishing listening the Murder Sheet podcast about the evidence, but there really hasn't been much new that has been revealed. I always thought that his sighting of the 3 girls and vice versa would be very problematic for him.

Did I hear it right that the P only played 7 of the confessions to the jury, rather than having them sit through all 61? I bet even 7 seemed like a lot.