GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #217

[girlhasnoname]

So........ whaddya think convicted double murderer Richard Allen will be getting in his stocking on Christmas morning?

A audio copy of all the confessions he made so he can replay them at will and a lifetime supply of paper he can eat when anxious or upset. OK, and an Orange. I'm not totally heartless. LOL

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

@MaxLewisTV

New court documents reveal what the Delphi jury wanted to look at during their deliberations. The jurors asked to see 4 pieces of evidence again before finding Richard Allen guilty of murdering Abby Williams and Libby German. Details below:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865054253636546761

DELPHI, Ind. – Jurors in the Delphi murders trial reviewed four key pieces of evidence while they deliberated the fate of Richard Allen.

https://fox59.com/delphi-trial/delphi-murders-jury-reviewed-4-key-pieces-of-evidence-before-finding-richard-allen-guilty/

12/6/2024

So it was the audio and video clips of BG and the two LE interrogations. Makes perfect sense, the videos with LE would have shown a side of RA (mannerisms, how he answered questions, switching up his timeline in one and being combative instead of the poor meek & mild offender) that we've not seen and also would have clearly shown his speaking voice. Also, was the interrogation on Oct 13th when KA said "you never told me you were on the BRIDGE that day"?

The BG video shows RA and his likeness, wearing the matching clothing he describes himself wearing on Feb. 13th 2017 during the Oct. 13th 2022 interview. No matter how many times pro RA people say it, that does not look like every man in Indiana (I lived in a sister state for 5+ years). It does look like RA though.

This jury did thorough deliberations, and I don't believe RA will be getting an appeal on procedural errors. I'm not sure who pays for future appellate attorneys after conviction and sentencing other than RA? He's already fallen off the big MSM and credible sources radar, with the exception of being sentenced on the 20th.

Come on Dec 20th, max sentence this vicious convicted child murderer and let's be done with hearing about him again.

I want to be reminded of the goodness of Abby & Libby from now on, not the evilness of BG=RA=Killer.

#JusticeCame4Abby&Libby
#GoAwayRA

JMO

 

[Tapeartree]

I want to be reminded of the goodness of Abby & Libby from now on, not the evilness of BG=RA=Killer.

I agree. I found myself coming back to this case over the years. Not so much because I want to know about RA or Bridge Guy, but I am reminded by a best friend I had in 8th grade. We went on many adventures like Libby and Abby, and we both played on the school basketball team. We were inseparable, and it makes me smile when I think of those days. That one friend you can say and do anything around, and they will never look at you like your crazy.
RIP Abby and Libby

 

[somequestions]

What makes this case so unique is how the killer did so many things that were the opposite of what I expected.

For example, in the PCA Richard Allen says he arrived at 1:30pm and left at 3:30pm. It looks like it can be established he did arrive at 1:30pm because of what appears to be his car being caught on the Hoosier Harveststore surveillance camera, but no one can determine when he left because he does not walk past the Hoosier Harveststore surveillance camera later around 4pm. If SC saw someone walking on 300 N near the cemetery at 3:57pm who she says was bridge guy, he certainly did not leave at 3:30pm.

Then there is his phone. I still cannot understand why someone would not bring their phone with them if they did not want LE to know they were at the trails but then go and talk to LE about being at the trails while using their phone. Maybe he did not think his phone could be tracked, but then why leave it at home(theory)? Why volunteer any information about looking at a stock ticker while walking on the trails if it could be proven to be a lie later through cell phone data? The theory seems to be he was a local and he had to go talk to LE because he was afraid too many people would recognize him in the community. But according to the witnesses they never got a good look at him, and he was wearing a face covering. The face covering would indicate someone who does not want to be identified, but he then goes and identifies himself to the conservation officer.

None of this is proof of innocence because criminals do dumb things sometimes. I know the jury has looked at all the evidence that I did not see and made their decision. But it is the lasting impression I will have about the Delphi murders case of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.

 

[Tortoise]

What makes this case so unique is how the killer did so many things that were the opposite of what I expected.

For example, in the PCA Richard Allen says he arrived at 1:30pm and left at 3:30pm. It looks like it can be established he did arrive at 1:30pm because of what appears to be his car being caught on the Hoosier Harveststore surveillance camera, but no one can determine when he left because he does not walk past the Hoosier Harveststore surveillance camera later around 4pm. If SC saw someone walking on 300 N near the cemetery at 3:57pm who she says was bridge guy, he certainly did not leave at 3:30pm.

Then there is his phone. I still cannot understand why someone would not bring their phone with them if they did not want LE to know they were at the trails but then go and talk to LE about being at the trails while using their phone. Maybe he did not think his phone could be tracked, but then why leave it at home(theory)? Why volunteer any information about looking at a stock ticker while walking on the trails if it could be proven to be a lie later through cell phone data? The theory seems to be he was a local and he had to go talk to LE because he was afraid too many people would recognize him in the community. But according to the witnesses they never got a good look at him, and he was wearing a face covering. The face covering would indicate someone who does not want to be identified, but he then goes and identifies himself to the conservation officer.

None of this is proof of innocence because criminals do dumb things sometimes. I know the jury has looked at all the evidence that I did not see and made their decision. But it is the lasting impression I will have about the Delphi murders case of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.

Well picture this hypothetical scenario.

RA goes home and says nothing to KA about his afternoon.

He doesn't know if his car has been picked up on CCTV anywhere, he tried to avoid being spotted by anyone that would recognize him in his car on his way there, by driving the country route, but he thinks it's a possibility there is a ring doorbell somewhere, a neighbor's surveillance system, or other CCTV that could prove the times if police were looking for it.

A couple of days later KA says Honey your picture's being put out by the police, did you go to the trails?
RA Yes, I just went for a walk.
KA What time were you there?
RA now thinks there could be a timed trail cam pic of him, plus there could be CCTV of his car, so he tells KA he was there between 1.30 and 3.30 because that's what he estimates to be the truth, and he thinks police could prove the times and he doesn't want to be caught in a lie. That would look suspicious.
KA What were you doing for two hours?
RA I was on my phone, and I looked at the fish.
KA You need to go and clear yourself from the investigation.

RA is now trapped into telling the police everything he told KA, because he thinks they will follow up his interview by asking KA if she knows anything about her husband's movements that day.


How a killer easily gets trapped by his own statements.

Over the intervening years RA relaxes somewhat because police didn't come back to him, but at the same time he is mulling over the problems with his first interview, if he is ever re-questioned. The timings he gave and his clothing. He'd agreed with KA what he was wearing when she first showed him the photo, and that photo is plastered everywhere as a reminder, but he now knows it was Libby's recording, not a trail cam. He must shift the time he was there and say it was definitely not him if it was on Libby's phone. So when police come knocking on his door in 2022 he is unsure if they have enough to arrest him, but he feels his way through the interview anyway with his altered timings, because he must. He can't deviate from the clothing drastically, but he throws in black as well as blue, and a range of footwear, because he needs to try anything to save his own arse.

It could have taken him time to leave the crime scene, because he took his time waiting, hiding from people he didn't want to notice him along the way. He might have been best-guessing the time he left the crime scene originally, because he didn't have his phone to check the time and didn't know what time that photo was taken.

None of it is reason to doubt his guilty verdict. Murderers get themselves caught up in narratives they've given to different people.

IMO

Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive.
Never so true.

 

[TallCoolOne]

Hmmmm..... What makes this case unique? Absolutely nothing. Just another run of the mill pervert who puts his sick fantasies above all other. Creeps like him are a dime a dozen...... All one needs to do is peruse this site and you can see for yourself that there's nothing special about convicted murderer Richard Allen. Nothing. December 20th 2024 he will be joining more of his ilk when he begins to serve his sentence, to which I say, good riddence.

 

[susane7]

Hmmmm..... What makes this case unique? Absolutely nothing. Just another run of the mill pervert who puts his sick fantasies above all other. Creeps like him are a dime a dozen...... All one needs to do is peruse this site and you can see for yourself that there's nothing special about convicted murderer Richard Allen. Nothing. December 20th 2024 he will be joining more of his ilk when he begins to serve his sentence, to which I say, good riddence.

I agree. I don't understand why people find this crime so odd. Unfortunately it is common a predator hunting for victims in trails. The unusual thing is 2 victims and one of the victims have managed to caught a video and voice of the kidnapper/murder. Thank god some killers make dumb mistakes and it is the case here IMO.

 

[Tapeartree]

What makes this case unique to me? Authorities had all the information needed to search RA's house and car two days after he committed these horrific murders; probably more evidence if a correct follow up was executed earlier. I think of what the poor families and the community had to go through for five years.

 

[mrjitty]

Well picture this hypothetical scenario.

RA goes home and says nothing to KA about his afternoon.

He doesn't know if his car has been picked up on CCTV anywhere, he tried to avoid being spotted by anyone that would recognize him in his car on his way there, by driving the country route, but he thinks it's a possibility there is a ring doorbell somewhere, a neighbor's surveillance system, or other CCTV that could prove the times if police were looking for it.

A couple of days later KA says Honey your picture's being put out by the police, did you go to the trails?
RA Yes, I just went for a walk.
KA What time were you there?
RA now thinks there could be a timed trail cam pic of him, plus there could be CCTV of his car, so he tells KA he was there between 1.30 and 3.30 because that's what he estimates to be the truth, and he thinks police could prove the times and he doesn't want to be caught in a lie. That would look suspicious.
KA What were you doing for two hours?
RA I was on my phone, and I looked at the fish.
KA You need to go and clear yourself from the investigation.

RA is now trapped into telling the police everything he told KA, because he thinks they will follow up his interview by asking KA if she knows anything about her husband's movements that day.


How a killer easily gets trapped by his own statements.

Over the intervening years RA relaxes somewhat because police didn't come back to him, but at the same time he is mulling over the problems with his first interview, if he is ever re-questioned. The timings he gave and his clothing. He'd agreed with KA what he was wearing when she first showed him the photo, and that photo is plastered everywhere as a reminder, but he now knows it was Libby's recording, not a trail cam. He must shift the time he was there and say it was definitely not him if it was on Libby's phone. So when police come knocking on his door in 2022 he is unsure if they have enough to arrest him, but he feels his way through the interview anyway with his altered timings, because he must. He can't deviate from the clothing drastically, but he throws in black as well as blue, and a range of footwear, because he needs to try anything to save his own arse.

It could have taken him time to leave the crime scene, because he took his time waiting, hiding from people he didn't want to notice him along the way. He might have been best-guessing the time he left the crime scene originally, because he didn't have his phone to check the time and didn't know what time that photo was taken.

None of it is reason to doubt his guilty verdict. Murderers get themselves caught up in narratives they've given to different people.

IMO

Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive.
Never so true.

First time show runner in his own murder mystery! Placing himself on the first platform was another tell. and the schrödingers car park. where did he park exactly???

 

[INfisherman]

First time show runner in his own murder mystery! Placing himself on the first platform was another tell. and the schrödingers car park. where did he park exactly???

Ironic it was the old child protection services building which he misstated as an old insurance building (almost like he’d get covered for being innocent) yet a former CPS employee found his statement. Irony within irony, so to speak, as he picked a place intended to protect kids in order to commit a crime against 2 kids yet the former employee & 2 kids did him in along with his big mouth. Just a weasel through & through IMO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

First time show runner in his own murder mystery! Placing himself on the first platform was another tell. and the schrödingers car park. where did he park exactly???

In an old Farm Bureau building. According to witnesses it was backed in furthest away by itself. The witnesses did notice both facts and that's why it stuck out to them as odd.

If completely innocent just going for a walk, why would RA do that instead of parking in the Mears lot right at the trail head? I believe because he wanted obscurity and nobody to see his car there.

JMO

 

[mrjitty]

In an old Farm Bureau building. According to witnesses it was backed in furthest away by itself. The witnesses did notice both facts and that's why it stuck out to them as odd.

If completely innocent just going for a walk, why would RA do that instead of parking in the Mears lot right at the trail head? I believe because he wanted obscurity and nobody to see his car there.

JMO

right - except it seems in his police interview, he never answered that question with any clarity .... clearly he had time to realise that admission was bad!

 

[INfisherman]

right - except it seems in his police interview, he never answered that question with any clarity .... clearly he had time to realise that admission was bad!

Concerning to think if he’d have lied to his wife & kept his mouth shut to LE, he just may have gotten away with it. Fortunately, he will have a long time to ponder all the woulda, coulda, shoulda aspects while continually looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

 

[INfisherman]

In an old Farm Bureau building. According to witnesses it was backed in furthest away by itself. The witnesses did notice both facts and that's why it stuck out to them as odd.

If completely innocent just going for a walk, why would RA do that instead of parking in the Mears lot right at the trail head? I believe because he wanted obscurity and nobody to see his car there.

JMO

Had he simply been going for a walk, he’d have most likely never had driven by Mears but rather parked in the main trailhead parking lot just over SR25 to the SW of where he actually did park at the CPS building. He went way out of his way from his house to go the route he most likely took to be heading west on 300N. IMO that shows potential planning in advance.

 

[Tapeartree]

Had he simply been going for a walk, he’d have most likely never had driven by Mears but rather parked in the main trailhead parking lot just over SR25 to the SW of where he actually did park at the CPS building. He went way out of his way from his house to go the route he most likely took to be heading west on 300N. IMO that shows potential planning in advance.

Probably wanted to scope out the parking lots prior to going onto the trails. How many cars there were indicates how many people are on the trails. JMO

 

[INfisherman]

Probably wanted to scope out the parking lots prior to going onto the trails. How many cars there were indicates how many people are on the trails. JMO

More questions to which we’ll never know the answers unless <modedit: unnecessary use of nicknames> he decides to talk.

 

[somequestions]

Well picture this hypothetical scenario.

RA goes home and says nothing to KA about his afternoon.

He doesn't know if his car has been picked up on CCTV anywhere, he tried to avoid being spotted by anyone that would recognize him in his car on his way there, by driving the country route, but he thinks it's a possibility there is a ring doorbell somewhere, a neighbor's surveillance system, or other CCTV that could prove the times if police were looking for it.

A couple of days later KA says Honey your picture's being put out by the police, did you go to the trails?
RA Yes, I just went for a walk.
KA What time were you there?
RA now thinks there could be a timed trail cam pic of him, plus there could be CCTV of his car, so he tells KA he was there between 1.30 and 3.30 because that's what he estimates to be the truth, and he thinks police could prove the times and he doesn't want to be caught in a lie. That would look suspicious.
KA What were you doing for two hours?
RA I was on my phone, and I looked at the fish.
KA You need to go and clear yourself from the investigation.

RA is now trapped into telling the police everything he told KA, because he thinks they will follow up his interview by asking KA if she knows anything about her husband's movements that day.


How a killer easily gets trapped by his own statements.

Over the intervening years RA relaxes somewhat because police didn't come back to him, but at the same time he is mulling over the problems with his first interview, if he is ever re-questioned. The timings he gave and his clothing. He'd agreed with KA what he was wearing when she first showed him the photo, and that photo is plastered everywhere as a reminder, but he now knows it was Libby's recording, not a trail cam. He must shift the time he was there and say it was definitely not him if it was on Libby's phone. So when police come knocking on his door in 2022 he is unsure if they have enough to arrest him, but he feels his way through the interview anyway with his altered timings, because he must. He can't deviate from the clothing drastically, but he throws in black as well as blue, and a range of footwear, because he needs to try anything to save his own arse.

It could have taken him time to leave the crime scene, because he took his time waiting, hiding from people he didn't want to notice him along the way. He might have been best-guessing the time he left the crime scene originally, because he didn't have his phone to check the time and didn't know what time that photo was taken.

None of it is reason to doubt his guilty verdict. Murderers get themselves caught up in narratives they've given to different people.

IMO

Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive.
Never so true.

That is sort of hard to believe that KA knew that it was her husband in Liberty German's phone video when she saw it on the news.

I do agree that after over 5 1/2 years Richard Allen would have seen the Liberty German phone video and heard the voice recording and knew himself that it was him. Wouldn't it also be suspicious to tell LE that you were on your phone while walking on the trails, but later they look up your phone id number and realize you were not?

The paragraph summary in your post that starts, "Over the intervening years...." is also strange to me because of Richard Allen's interview on October 13, 2022, when police finally did come back to talk to him. It has to do with the interview itself. According to Lawyer Lee, who was at the trial, the interrogation starts out cordial, but then during the interrogation because of the questions asked Richard Allen realizes that the police actually think he could be the killer when they start asking to search his house. At first he gives them his phone to look up information, but then takes it back before walking out of the interrogation once he thinks they suspect him. It was surprising to me he did not think LE suspected him the moment he got the phone call after 5 1/2 years asking him to come in and talk to them.

His mannerisms and reactions during that October 13, 2022, interrogation seemed to be consistent with someone telling the truth, yet we know today it was all an act of deception. Maybe Richard Allen wanted to be arrested the first week, but could not understand why LE were not showing up to his house? Then because of his mental illness he forgot or convinced himself over the next 5 1/2 years he was not the Delphi killer and this made all of his words and mannerisms later when LE questioned him appear to be from someone telling the truth?

Even his statement about saying it is not him in the video/picture if it was taken by one of the girls could be taken out of context(in my opinion). I think a person might say that if they admit to being on the bridge but want LE to know that simply because they were on the bridge on the day of the murders when the girls disappeared, it does not mean they are the killer.

But why would Richard Allen tell his mother he did it if he didn't? I can definitely understand why this case does not make a lot of sense. The jury found him guilty so maybe later they will explain what convinced them of his guilt. I agree that this case is over or will drag on for years during the appeals process.

 

[INfisherman]

That is sort of hard to believe that KA knew that it was her husband in Liberty German's phone video when she saw it on the news.

I do agree that after over 5 1/2 years Richard Allen would have seen the Liberty German phone video and heard the voice recording and knew himself that it was him. Wouldn't it also be suspicious to tell LE that you were on your phone while walking on the trails, but later they look up your phone id number and realize you were not?

The paragraph summary in your post that starts, "Over the intervening years...." is also strange to me because of Richard Allen's interview on October 13, 2022, when police finally did come back to talk to him. It has to do with the interview itself. According to Lawyer Lee, who was at the trial, the interrogation starts out cordial, but then during the interrogation because of the questions asked Richard Allen realizes that the police actually think he could be the killer when they start asking to search his house. At first he gives them his phone to look up information, but then takes it back before walking out of the interrogation once he thinks they suspect him. It was surprising to me he did not think LE suspected him the moment he got the phone call after 5 1/2 years asking him to come in and talk to them.

His mannerisms and reactions during that October 13, 2022, interrogation seemed to be consistent with someone telling the truth, yet we know today it was all an act of deception. Maybe Richard Allen wanted to be arrested the first week, but could not understand why LE were not showing up to his house? Then because of his mental illness he forgot or convinced himself over the next 5 1/2 years he was not the Delphi killer and this made all of his words and mannerisms later when LE questioned him appear to be from someone telling the truth?

Even his statement about saying it is not him in the video/picture if it was taken by one of the girls could be taken out of context(in my opinion). I think a person might say that if they admit to being on the bridge but want LE to know that simply because they were on the bridge on the day of the murders when the girls disappeared, it does not mean they are the killer.

But why would Richard Allen tell his mother he did it if he didn't? I can definitely understand why this case does not make a lot of sense. The jury found him guilty so maybe later they will explain what convinced them of his guilt. I agree that this case is over or will drag on for years during the appeals process.

I believe the fact that he changed the time he claimed he was at bridge tipped off LE more than anything. Also the fact that he admitted to driving his black car that day. RA didn’t know on 13OCT22 that LE had the unspent round. Later that same day was when he was served the SW so he never had the opportunity to hide/get rid of his gun. He was smart enough to have replaced his phone by then along with getting rid of any keepsakes/trophies.

What you mention above regarding his odd responses to LE questions just compounds any suspicion a person or LE may have IMO. It’s the totality of evidence against him & the timeline built with assistance from the data found on LGs phone that makes it more difficult to believe his revised claims.

I don’t believe his mental health was much of a contributor to what he said to LE. By 2022, he’d likely stopped worrying about his crime until that first interview on 13OCT22, (as he admitted to Dr. Wala - went on living his life). He had no clue about the unspent round until ~2 weeks after (26OCT22) that interview & LE had already taken custody of his gun by then so no opportunity for him to get rid of it.

It is difficult to speculate why he chose to say/do what he did once LE brought him back to interview in 2022. I don’t put much stock in his mental health affecting him too much up to that point. He seems to try to minimize his actions & deflect blame. His "mental health" issues prior to 2022 were likely more of the same - trying to deflect and/or minimize whatever he did to cause the 911 call from KA after the murders but prior to 2022.

JMO

ETA spelling/context

 

[somequestions]

I believe the fact that he changed the time he claimed he was at bridge tipped off LE more than anything. Also the fact that he admitted to driving his black car that day. RA didn’t know on 13OCT22 that LE had the unspent round. Later that same day was when he was served the SW so he never had the opportunity to hide/get rid of his gun. He was smart enough to have replaced his phone by then along with getting rid of any keepsakes/trophies.

What you mention above regarding his odd responses to LE questions just compounds any suspicion a person or LE may have IMO. It’s the totality of evidence against him & the timeline built with assistance from the data found on LGs phone that makes it more difficult to believe his revised claims.

I don’t believe his mental health was much of a contributor to what he said to LE. By 2022, he’d likely stopped worrying about his crime until that first interview on 13OCT22, (as he admitted to Dr. Wala - went on living his life). He had no clue about the unspent round until ~2 weeks after (26OCT22) that interview & LE had already taken custody of his gun by then so no opportunity for him to get rid of it.

It is difficult to speculate why he chose to say/do what he did once LE brought him back to interview in 2022. I don’t put much stock in his mental health affecting him too much up to that point. He seems to try to minimize his actions & deflect blame. His "mental health" issues prior to 2022 were likely more of the same - trying to deflect and/or minimize whatever he did to cause the 911 call from KA after the murders but prior to 2022.

JMO

ETA spelling/context

If BB left the start of the Monon High Bridge and walked back down the Monon High Bridge trail path and saw Abby and Libby and Richard Allen had left the first platform and walked back to sit on a bench, he should have seen Abby and Libby. He says he did not see them. I understand Abby and Libby should have been on the main trail path to the Monon High Bridge, but if they arrived at 1:49pm and the first picture was not posted until 2:05pm, there is the possibility they were not on the main trail path the entire time as it only takes 5 minutes to walk to the beginning of the Monon High Bridge from the Mears parking entrance. I guess Richard Allen changed the time he was at the Monon High Bridge trail to 12 - 1:30pm to avoid all this regarding BB and when Abby and Libby arrived to walk to the Monon High Bridge. Even in 2022, he must have thought LE did not track his phone id number he provided back in 2017.

Securing Richard Allen's phone location in 2017 would have been very helpful in showing that he was probably still at home or traveling towards the Monon High Bridge instead of away from it. They would have caught him in a lie rather than in a discussion over whether the conservation officer wrote down the wrong time.

After December 20th, hopefully at least one juror speaks to explain what piece of evidence caused them to think beyond a reasonable doubt that Richard Allen is bridge guy. Maybe there is something the jury saw that none of us saw that explains it all? Or maybe now that Richard Allen is convicted, he will say he is sorry? Or this case will probably go on for years in the appeals process.

 

[INfisherman]

If BB left the start of the Monon High Bridge and walked back down the Monon High Bridge trail path and saw Abby and Libby and Richard Allen had left the first platform and walked back to sit on a bench, he should have seen Abby and Libby. He says he did not see them. I understand Abby and Libby should have been on the main trail path to the Monon High Bridge, but if they arrived at 1:49pm and the first picture was not posted until 2:05pm, there is the possibility they were not on the main trail path the entire time as it only takes 5 minutes to walk to the beginning of the Monon High Bridge from the Mears parking entrance. I guess Richard Allen changed the time he was at the Monon High Bridge trail to 12 - 1:30pm to avoid all this regarding BB and when Abby and Libby arrived to walk to the Monon High Bridge. Even in 2022, he must have thought LE did not track his phone id number he provided back in 2017.

Securing Richard Allen's phone location in 2017 would have been very helpful in showing that he was probably still at home or traveling towards the Monon High Bridge instead of away from it. They would have caught him in a lie rather than in a discussion over whether the conservation officer wrote down the wrong time.

After December 20th, hopefully at least one juror speaks to explain what piece of evidence caused them to think beyond a reasonable doubt that Richard Allen is bridge guy. Maybe there is something the jury saw that none of us saw that explains it all? Or maybe now that Richard Allen is convicted, he will say he is sorry? Or this case will probably go on for years in the appeals process.

I’m pretty sure the girls’ movements were accounted for by LGs phone via both the GPS info & step counter. That’s part of the information used to verify the timeline. It’s possible they stopped walking now & then to text, take & post pictures. It’s possible they had a creepy interaction with RA which he chose to avoid discussing.

I can’t give you a definitive reason why RA changed his timeline for that day. My only guess is he wanted it to appear as if he wasn’t involved in the murders & figured the earlier he said he left, the better even though he couldn’t have any ideas of the time unless he’d been checking his watch that day or had time stamped photos from a camera he may have had - utter speculation.

The conflicting statements he gave concerning what times he was there weren’t really major points of contention made in the PCA or the trial (that I can find or was reported). It was obvious he didn’t leave at the earlier time because his vehicle was seen on the HH camera footage of him driving towards the CPS building around 1:30. LE stuck to his original time from 2017 in the PCA & at trial & backed that up both times with the following:

• the video from HH of him going towards CPS building @ ~1:30
• eyewitness statements & times on the trails after 1:30
• the fact no one else reported seeing BG/RA on the trails or on 300N after 2:13 but before 3:30
• his car was still reported being seen at the CPS building after 2:13 by eyewitnesses
• the BG video timestamp from LGs phone
• SC seeing him at 3:30 on 300N

Yes, had his phone been available, the info might have been helpful but given what we know from above, it’s just more of the same evidence, really. LE didn’t focus on potential lies via his phone because the above is evidence he was lying.

JMO

ETA clarity on 2:13 to 3:30 timeframe