GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #219

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That video is a gut punch because you know what’s coming next. I don’t know why but I assumed in the video he’d be a little further away but he is right on them and he knew they had nowhere to go at that point. I don’t think they realised the severity of their situation until it was too late.

It’s a real tough watch.
Agreed. I found myself hoping one of the rotted railroad ties would crumble underneath him so he'd fall and they'd escape. It's an odd feeling watching and knowing how this all ended.
 
This.

Many of us women have situations where our instinct was fear... hold your breath, make eye contact, AVOID eye contact, pretend you're on the phone.

Consider: Libby's dialogue was to neutralize danger, don't mind us, we're just waiting to crosls back over, we don't think you're dangerous (while being very afraid that he is)...

She could havepretended to be on her phone... I've done that, I'll never know if it was effective or if my danger assessment was off... but if Libby had, it may or may not have deterred Richard Allen but would have cost her the phone and the recording with it. Pitched right into the river.

Scared as they were, they didn't KNOW how evil that man was going to be. Maybe he was going to be angry they'd crossed the bridge, angry if they trespassed
Who kidnaps TWO teenagers in broad daylight? They were afraid but IMO didn't necessarily know HOW afraid they needed to be. There was always the possibility they he wasn't after them at all (keeping in mind I don't know what he said or did when they passed by him earlier.

I think where adults really error, when saying how they would have reacted or how the girls should have reacted, is in applying hindsight, statistics/life experience.

There girls needed time TO react. To assess whether he was a real threat or just felt like one. Certain actions/reactions escalate.
...

In that period of understandable indecision, he overtook them.

Run? And your BFF is killed?

Not fair to second guess the impossible situation Richard Allen put them in.

JMO

The key I think, as you mentioned, is they had zero time to sort out options. It’s only about 20 seconds from the time Abby is off the bridge until RA is ordering them down the hill.
Twenty seconds.
 
can assure you i recognise if someone is scared and will make efforts to convey I am no threat,I won't lock my gaze on you and will turn my body away from you, if that doesnt work I will kneel and look in the other direction. nearly everyone recognises that as being no threat. if that doesnt work, i will take my bag off, drop it and run in the opposite direction.

I presume from your post that you are a male, and I appreciate the effort you put into trying to minimize the fear women carry all the time.
Devastating how many of us here can recognize and relate to the fear and uncertainty these two young girls were experiencing in this moment, without even seeing their expressions or body language
So true. They didn’t even have the life experience to know how to deal with this rising threat as he rapidly approached. Even had they been older, it appears that they were completely trapped and there was little they could do.

But they did what they could. The brilliance of recording him, while it couldn’t save them in the moment, did at least put RA away.

Our mothers and grandmothers went through the fear of creepy men, but they never talked about it at all. It just wasn’t considered fitting at the time.

I’ve had more incidents than I care to remember where I couldn’t escape

{INCIDENTS DELETED BY ME. Not comfortable.}



Clearly I’ve never been murdered, though. It pains me straight through the heart thinking of Abby and Libby in their last moments.

I know the other women here have gone through things, as I have, and you have your stories, too.

I’ve tried to teach my daughter and my eldest granddaughter how to keep themselves safer once they were old enough to go out without an adult, but the fear is primal and ingrained and I still worry about them.

JMO and experience.
 
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Some observations:

1) He is walking REALLY fast across the bridge, he had done that walk plenty of times previously in my opinion

2) You can tell he isn’t tall at all

3) There is a better perspective of his walk, posture, height and voice displayed in this video. Not the small clips and photo LE released.

4) It absolutely shows there is only ONE other person with the girls. There’s nobody else there.

5) Kinda covered above but there’s only 1 male voice, all BG. It’s not two different male voices.

6) You can see BG’s shadow just a split second before the clip finishes. You can see it amongst the backdrop of the trees.
All excellent points. Had there been someone else there, you’d have heard them stepping on leaves. Hell, you can hear traffic around the area.

RA was the only person at that end of the bridge besides the girls.

MOO
 
Some observations:

1) He is walking REALLY fast across the bridge, he had done that walk plenty of times previously in my opinion

2) You can tell he isn’t tall at all

3) There is a better perspective of his walk, posture, height and voice displayed in this video. Not the small clips and photo LE released.

4) It absolutely shows there is only ONE other person with the girls. There’s nobody else there.

5) Kinda covered above but there’s only 1 male voice, all BG. It’s not two different male voices.

6) You can see BG’s shadow just a split second before the clip finishes. You can see it amongst the backdrop of the trees.

I feel a little ashamed to have watched it, TBH, but curiosity after all these years made me want to see the whole story.

Now, though, I feel so intrusive upon the final, petrified moments of their lives.
I just want to gather them up and lead them to safety.
I can’t fathom the agony of their families.

See you in 130 years, Richard Allen.

JMO
 
I just watched the video and am I missing something when people don’t hear fear?

Libby sounds like she is crying and sniffling and Abby literally bolts off the bridge in fear to get away from the scary man who is alarmingly closing in on her. It's amazing how Libby kept her head to record RA despite the terror she must have been feeling.

ETA - I am even more convinced it’s RA as you can see how short he is behind Abby.

My opinion is they hear fear. What I'm missing is WHY human beings insist on supporting a child murderer, richard allen. Watching Abby walk so carefully and at the same time frightened because she was trying to get away from richard allen was chilling. And yes, I totally agree Abby bolted off that bridge. She really bolted off that bridge. So very sad.

Libby, the other angel with young sweet voice still being polite. They were aware they were in danger, they had fear, then to see the gun. I just can't.

Doing my best to stay away from these boards, not good for my health to hear the support being giving to a child killer, richard allen. And all the innocent others' that have been the target of killer richard allen's supporters.

Be safe all.
 
Looks like they're back peddling now. 🤣

Seriously, nothing is funny about this and there never will be. 2 innocent young girls named Abby and Libby were viciously murdered by this evil 'nobody'. He didn't just snap, he's had some sick fantasy of this type of behavior for a long time I believe and was determined to commit that evil act that day.

The D and their lackey minions have lied, blamed, lied some more, taunted, and exploited the victims and their families throughout the entire trial. Their behavior is beyond disgusting and gives good and decent Defense Attorneys a bad name.

The 'sheeple' who steadfastly followed and argued against all common sense and logic will still continue to do so. It's a game to be won or lost, not about Truth or Justice. They do not exist in my mind any longer and I will not indulge their game playing period.

Here's to a long, hard 130 years Ricky. You earned and deserve each and every one of them.

JMO

What i find fascinating is this video release illustrates exactly how the law-tubers work as a D messaging platform. I guess now the trial is over they don't have to pretend to be playing it down the line and can just openly coordinate.
 
My opinion is they hear fear. What I'm missing is WHY human beings insist on supporting a child murderer, richard allen. Watching Abby walk so carefully and at the same time frightened because she was trying to get away from richard allen was chilling. And yes, I totally agree Abby bolted off that bridge. She really bolted off that bridge. So very sad.

Libby, the other angel with young sweet voice still being polite. They were aware they were in danger, they had fear, then to see the gun. I just can't.

Doing my best to stay away from these boards, not good for my health to hear the support being giving to a child killer, richard allen. And all the innocent others' that have been the target of killer richard allen's supporters.

Be safe all.

Yep, so frustrating even with all the damage his team continue to cause, let alone the fact that it’s quite clear Ricky is guilty and has been found guilty to boot.


Just imagining supporting a man who literally has no alibi.
 
They clearly knew something was amiss as you can hear Libby snuffling.

It’s highly likely something happened before that video started hence why Libby was upset and decided to record him. Abby is also distressed by her body language and then she runs off the bridge at pace.

I am going to hazard a guess and he had ordered them off the bridge moments before Libby started to record and that’s why both girls are both upset.
Yes, yes, yes to all you’ve posted. I have a feeling they knew something was amiss when they saw him prior to walking out on the bridge. I’m not sure what occurred as he approached but they knew just before the video that more was off than it should have been. I think it may have just been how quickly he overtook them - RA knew others were present behind him & had to get across the MHB ASAP in order to not be seen.
 
Yes, yes, yes to all you’ve posted. I have a feeling they knew something was amiss when they saw him prior to walking out on the bridge. I’m not sure what occurred as he approached but they knew just before the video that more was off than it should have been. I think it may have just been how quickly he overtook them - RA knew others were present behind him & had to get across the MHB ASAP in order to not be seen.
No normal man would be rushing up on them like that. It's already the initiation of a crime and they feel it.
 
No normal man would be rushing up on them like that. It's already the initiation of a crime and they feel it.
Exactly. They knew something was off as soon as they saw him way off in the distance & likely before when they passed him on the trails. It became much more apparent after the single photo of AW was taken & posted & is likely why LG began recording a video in the first place as he approached.

Nothing playful at all going on in the video, particularly once AW comes running by.

When I watched it earlier this morning it made me feel so bad for them & others who have been in similar situations & have shared their feelings with us. I feel for them as well & am sorry for those experiences.

Very frustrated because that impish coward went on living life afterwards. Men don’t do this to kids.
 
Seeing/hearing their last moments and knowing we can’t save them…. that video is suffocating to watch. imo


I can not imagine the pain the families felt seeing that video and being unable to help them.

The only blessing is they had each other as that must of brought both girls some comfort.

Moo
 
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