GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

[INfisherman]

I do not believe the movements of LG’s cell phone ever showed them going down any other nearby trails. They did not venture off the beaten path from Mears to MHB or the defense would have pounced all over that. BB is likely not walking at a leisurely pace since she is exercising & not taking in the sights. No one else saw RA near Freedom Bridge at any other point on that day other than when he had arrived & we know other people were coming & going that day. No one saw RA on the trails again after ~2:00 - 2:15. No one on this planet has gotten RA off that bridge.

RA’s defense team could not present any additional evidence which corroborated what he claimed he did behind his initial times which were in the tip sheet. Therein lies their problem. They say, but they have no evidence to prove what they say. 12 people agreed it was beyond reasonable doubt that RA was there when the girls were & followed them across the bridge & ended their lives, based on the evidence the prosecution presented.

Transcripts are due in early July, barring further delays. The second juror who came forward claimed if people weren’t in the courtroom, they weren’t seeing the whole picture nor the evidence presented against RA.

JMO

 

[Justice101]

Random question:

Can someone please refresh my memory of the detail of the secretary/clerk or whomever who found the initial statement from RA that he was on the trials at the time? This was the statement that did not somehow get in the tip database.

This ended up being the PIVOTAL point in the investigation and being found was the only reason this case was ever solved.

Kudos to that person! Would like to hear all the details of this hero.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

The black Ford Focus driving towards the old CPS building at 1:27pm is probably the biggest piece of evidence showing that Richard Allen was arriving and not leaving. It confirms the timeline. About the only way I could see Richard Allen possibly being innocent is based on a different slightly altered version of the timeline.

First, lets describe the timeline the way it probably happened. I know others will say it definitely happened this way, but I am putting forth what is only a possibility.

Scenario 1 (most likely based on the evidence)

RIchard Allen drives past the Hoosier Harvest store surveillance camera at 1:27pm. He arrives 1:28pm at old CPS building. He gets out of his car and walks down the trail first passing the 3 girls at the entrance. BB is seen driving past the Hoosier Harvest store surveillance camera at 1:46pm. She arrives back at the Mears parking entrance at 1:47pm. Right at around 1:47pm Richard Allen walks by the Mears parking entrance as BB is gathering her things to get out of the car and continue her walk on the 501 trail. From the Mears parking entrance it takes 5 minutes to walk to the start of the Monon High Bridge. When Richard Allen passes the Mears parking area he may have even glimpsed the car Abby and Libby arrived in. Richard Allen walks out onto platform 1. BB sees him on platform 1 shortly after about 1:53 pm. Then she walks back down the trails towards the Mears parking entrance and about halfway sees Abby and Libby. Since she is exercising and walking continuously, she sees Abby and Libby around 1:55pm. Then assuming Abby and Libby keep walking they arrive at the start of the Monon High Bridge around 1:57pm. I am assuming Abby and Libby walk slow in this scenario since KG's car is seen driving away at 1:49 pm per the Hoosier Harvest Store video.

Scenario 2 (possibility)

Everything is the same except when Abby and Libby arrive they do not go down the 501 trail first. BB comes back from seeing Richard Allen on platform 1, gets back to the Mears parking area and begins walking down the 505 trail. Richard Allen leaves platform 1 not long after BB and sits on the bench at the 505 trail overlooking the creek while BB is walking down the 505. She sees Abby and Libby near the halfway point of the 505. Abby and Libby get back to the Mears parking area and begin their walk to the Monon High Bridge at around 2pm. They arrive at around 2:05pm. Before Abby and Libby get back to the Mears parking area from walking on the 505, Richard Allen gets up from the bench and walks back to his car and leaves. BB's SUV he probably does still remember sitting in the parking lot.

If Richard Allen's car was seen on any surveillance tape around town it would have to be from between 2:10 - 2:30pm in this scenario. This is why I thought it was important to try to verify when Richard Allen left the Monon High Bridge trail area that day. I know the timing is very tight in this scenario 2 timeline, but I wondered about it because of Richard Allen's statement about seeing an SUV in the Mears parking lot while sitting on the bench when he got up to leave.

Scenario 1 is not a scenario in my opinion.
It is what happened based on evidence.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Random question:

Can someone please refresh my memory of the detail of the secretary/clerk or whomever who found the initial statement from RA that he was on the trials at the time? This was the statement that did not somehow get in the tip database.

This ended up being the PIVOTAL point in the investigation and being found was the only reason this case was ever solved.

Kudos to that person! Would like to hear all the details of this hero.

In RA’s 2017 interview with LE, he states he was at the trail between “13:30-15:30”.
That would be 1:30pm to 3:30pm.

This is how I understand the interview file was found.
The initial interview was found by Kathy Shank, retired from county service who volunteered early on to organize and keep the tips and files.
In 2022, it had been decided to once again go through everything in hopes of finding something that may have been missed. In doing that, KS located the interview in the back of a drawer of files marked “cleared”. She glanced at it and, having been around since the beginning and knowing what was deemed important by investigators she noted that RA stated he saw three teenage girls on the trail. KS knew the teen girls said they had seen a man dressed like BG on the trail and that LE had never found that guy. KS checked the digital database of interviews and discovered RA’s had been misfiled under the last name “Whiteman” which was actually the name of the street RA lived on. She then took the found interview to investigators.
She is a hero. KS was offered the $300,000+ reward and she declined it.
That’s pretty much what I know and how I understand it happened.

 

[Justice101]

In RA’s 2017 interview with LE, he states he was at the trail between “13:30-15:30”.
That would be 1:30pm to 3:30pm.

This is how I understand the interview file was found.
The initial interview was found by Kathy Shank, retired from county service who volunteered early on to organize and keep the tips and files.
In 2022, it had been decided to once again go through everything in hopes of finding something that may have been missed. In doing that, KS located the interview in the back of a drawer of files marked “cleared”. She glanced at it and, having been around since the beginning and knowing what was deemed important by investigators she noted that RA stated he saw three teenage girls on the trail. KS knew the teen girls said they had seen a man dressed like BG on the trail and that LE had never found that guy. KS checked the digital database of interviews and discovered RA’s had been misfiled under the last name “Whiteman” which was actually the name of the street RA lived on. She then took the found interview to investigators.
She is a hero. KS was offered the $300,000+ reward and she declined it.
That’s pretty much what I know and how I understand it happened.

OMG! What a great story. She is a hero. She actually LOOKED in a folder marked cleared but also saw the significance of the 3 girl reference.

Amazing! Thank you so much for sharing that information.

Here is an interview with her. Kathy Shank