GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

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No, it just means it looked like him then & more so now, given the look he’s now sporting, to that particular person doing the observing.


Yes, that would be the literal definition of "in other words" since that is not at all what I stated in the one sentence you kept in what you quoted out of 3 other paragraphs. Thanks for clarifying, I guess?? 🤔🤔🤔

Let’s see, in other words, you feel the judge was wrong in her suppression of the cell phone evidence & the third party culprits, even though the defense couldn’t legally establish that those things should be admitted into trial? It’s only NM’s & JG’s collusion that the defense couldn’t produce any legal reason or evidence beyond hearsay, in the case of the 3rd party suspects, for those things to be admitted, even though throughout the judge (the colluding one) kept reminding the defense she wasn’t going to allow those suspects if the defense kept beating the same dead horses? Gotcha.

I assume you have links to approved sources backing up what you claim, that NM & JG didn’t allow RA to have an adequate defense - unless that’s just an opinion?

See you again in another couple of months, assuming you keep your recent post patterns, if you don’t respond. 👍

ETA first quote, response & entire 2nd paragraph under 2nd quote
Excellent post!!!
 
  • #682
OK, I really am on vacation, but I do have time before the plane leaves.

A lot of you want to know why Delphi convicted murderer Richard Allen was moved to an out of state prison.

I do not know, but he is now in Oklahoma according to online records. I searched the IDOC and it does show he was moved.

We are trying to find out more information.

 
  • #683
Hoping he had a BIG target on his back there in IN by other inmates for him senselessly killing two innocent little girls. And I hope, too, that target follows him EVERYWHERE that he tries to move in prison.

jmo
 
  • #684
In other words, NM was very careful in not allowing RA to have an adequate defense, and was able to convince JG, too.
Interesting concept.

While the defense was in lala land with their pagan power points, the Judge stated NO. Why? Its simple: it had nothing to do with the violent murder of these young girls.

At gunpoint he forcefully kidnapped them and made strip, yes at gunpoint. And that in itself is sexual assault.

I bet he crapped his pants the moment he saw on TV these girls had a phone taking pics!! 🤣
 
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Interesting concept.

While the defense was in lala land with their pagan power points, the Judge stated NO. Why? Its simple: it had nothing to do with the violent murder of these young girls.

At gunpoint he forcefully kidnapped them and made strip, yes at gunpoint. And that in itself is sexual assault.

I bet he crapped his pants the moment he saw on TV these girls had a phone taking pics!! 🤣
It is your last line that I think about.

It does not appear like Richard Allen panicked at all when the bridge guy picture came out. The picture was out in the newspapers before he ever met with DD, the conservation officer. He first went to the police station with his wife where they took down his information. Then, a few days later while he was driving around, DD called him, and they decided to meet at the grocery store.

There is also the 2019 press conference about police looking for a specific car parked at the old CPS building. Did Richard Allen not see this press conference? In his first interrogation in October 2022, he states that his car was the only car parked in the parking lot when he parked on February 13, 2017. He is sure of that. During that interrogation they all sit there with a map trying to figure out exactly where he parked. Then the offer vy Richard Allen during the interrogation, to show the detectives exactly where he parked. The way the person parked at the old CPS building, backed into the building does match Richard Allen's parking style, but I disagree he did it to hide his license plate if that is also the way he parks his car at his job. Looking back on this case, that detail may have been important if police officers had kept it quiet and drove around looking for cars to photograph and question the owner. More people than Richard Allen back into a parking space, but for a small town it might have helped find the car. If I remember correctly, that backed in parking detail about the car at the old CPS building was public.

This is why I wondered if there is any surveillance video from around town with a timestamp that shows when and where he was driving around after the murders. The only thing we know is that he did not drive home the same way he drove to the Monon High Bridge trails because his car is not on the Hoosier Harvest store camera leaving at a little after 4pm once he was spotted by SC walking on 300 N at around 3:56pm back to his car. If there is no surveillance video from the alternate routes back to his house, how he drove home that day might remain a mystery.
 
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It is your last line that I think about.

It does not appear like Richard Allen panicked at all when the bridge guy picture came out. The picture was out in the newspapers before he ever met with DD, the conservation officer. He first went to the police station with his wife where they took down his information. Then, a few days later while he was driving around, DD called him, and they decided to meet at the grocery store.

There is also the 2019 press conference about police looking for a specific car parked at the old CPS building. Did Richard Allen not see this press conference? In his first interrogation in October 2022, he states that his car was the only car parked in the parking lot when he parked on February 13, 2017. He is sure of that. During that interrogation they all sit there with a map trying to figure out exactly where he parked. Then the offer vy Richard Allen during the interrogation, to show the detectives exactly where he parked. The way the person parked at the old CPS building, backed into the building does match Richard Allen's parking style, but I disagree he did it to hide his license plate if that is also the way he parks his car at his job. Looking back on this case, that detail may have been important if police officers had kept it quiet and drove around looking for cars to photograph and question the owner. More people than Richard Allen back into a parking space, but for a small town it might have helped find the car. If I remember correctly, that backed in parking detail about the car at the old CPS building was public.

This is why I wondered if there is any surveillance video from around town with a timestamp that shows when and where he was driving around after the murders. The only thing we know is that he did not drive home the same way he drove to the Monon High Bridge trails because his car is not on the Hoosier Harvest store camera leaving at a little after 4pm once he was spotted by SC walking on 300 N at around 3:56pm back to his car. If there is no surveillance video from the alternate routes back to his house, how he drove home that day might remain a mystery.
We don’t know if he panicked or not. Only RA knows for sure. All we know is he did what he had to do to keep his wife out of the picture. He sure didn’t follow up with police again once he spoke with DD. I guess once was enough.

I know that RA’s doings after the murders are important to you. I still just feel no one paid much attention if his car was seen on any cameras because it adds very little to proving he was the murderer, which was the state’s main concern. Maybe they did review other footage & it just didn’t show anything. After being seen on 300N, he’d be crazy to drive back home that direction, towards Mears. He likely didn’t waste any time getting home & jumped on SR25 & drove back home like he stole his own car. He had to clean up & get ready for KA to arrive home shortly thereafter.

Evidently the defense didn’t find any footage of his car driving around town between 1:30P & 4P or else they’d have shown it in court. We also need to remember it was 5 years later when the defense would have been looking for footage other than what was in discovery.

MOO
 
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It is your last line that I think about.

It does not appear like Richard Allen panicked at all when the bridge guy picture came out. The picture was out in the newspapers before he ever met with DD, the conservation officer. He first went to the police station with his wife where they took down his information. Then, a few days later while he was driving around, DD called him, and they decided to meet at the grocery store.

There is also the 2019 press conference about police looking for a specific car parked at the old CPS building. Did Richard Allen not see this press conference? In his first interrogation in October 2022, he states that his car was the only car parked in the parking lot when he parked on February 13, 2017. He is sure of that. During that interrogation they all sit there with a map trying to figure out exactly where he parked. Then the offer vy Richard Allen during the interrogation, to show the detectives exactly where he parked. The way the person parked at the old CPS building, backed into the building does match Richard Allen's parking style, but I disagree he did it to hide his license plate if that is also the way he parks his car at his job. Looking back on this case, that detail may have been important if police officers had kept it quiet and drove around looking for cars to photograph and question the owner. More people than Richard Allen back into a parking space, but for a small town it might have helped find the car. If I remember correctly, that backed in parking detail about the car at the old CPS building was public.

This is why I wondered if there is any surveillance video from around town with a timestamp that shows when and where he was driving around after the murders. The only thing we know is that he did not drive home the same way he drove to the Monon High Bridge trails because his car is not on the Hoosier Harvest store camera leaving at a little after 4pm once he was spotted by SC walking on 300 N at around 3:56pm back to his car. If there is no surveillance video from the alternate routes back to his house, how he drove home that day might remain a mystery.
BBM
We have no idea in the privacy of his own home that he didn't crap his pants.

On the outside all liars create lies that makes them look like they're innocent and things don't bother them.
 
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And Motta.
🤣🤣

How could I forget? Well played, pseudo!

Sure, but he’ll have to come to IN. We aren’t driving to get him. It’s county fair season here, so maybe the rodeo clowns will lure him in if KA doesn’t. 🤞🤞🤞
 
  • #694
MOO Non stop inmates yelling death threats at him.
That's what happened at the County Jails he was at, and why he was finally sent to a State Prison with full segregation facilities while he was waiting for trial.
That is exactly what happened to Chris Watts as well and it is the reason he was moved.
 
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Looks like this is where he went:

The Lexington Assessment and Reception Center, a maximum-security facility, list Allen as an inmate as of July 17.

 
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I'm trying to make sense out of RA be transferred to LARC. From this video it appears to be a temporary place for prisoners to land. The video is saying "most inmates stay at LARC for a week or so before being assigned and transferred to their permanent facility". It also says 4 days a week prisoners are shuffled in and out. The receive from 35-50 a day, and for every inmate they bring in, they have to move someone out that day because they have limited bedspace. "It looks like Grand Central Station for convicts".

And they transport approx 21,000 inmates a month. Due to all the video says, I'm REALLY not understanding why RA was transferred there.

 
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I'm trying to make sense out of RA be transferred to LARC. From this video it appears to be a temporary place for prisoners to land. The video is saying "most inmates stay at LARC for a week or so before being assigned and transferred to their permanent facility". It also says 4 days a week prisoners are shuffled in and out. The receive from 35-50 a day, and for every inmate they bring in, they have to move someone out that day because they have limited bedspace. "It looks like Grand Central Station for convicts".

And they transport approx 21,000 inmates a month. Due to all the video says, I'm REALLY not understanding why RA was transferred there.


Because he is going to be housed in OK.
 
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I'm trying to make sense out of RA be transferred to LARC. From this video it appears to be a temporary place for prisoners to land. The video is saying "most inmates stay at LARC for a week or so before being assigned and transferred to their permanent facility". It also says 4 days a week prisoners are shuffled in and out. The receive from 35-50 a day, and for every inmate they bring in, they have to move someone out that day because they have limited bedspace. "It looks like Grand Central Station for convicts".

And they transport approx 21,000 inmates a month. Due to all the video says, I'm REALLY not understanding why RA was transferred there.

As @twall states, he’s apparently being transferred to a prison in OK. The current location where RA is being kept is an "incoming facility" where he will be assessed then transferred to another more permanent facility somewhere in OK. He went through a similar procedure after his sentencing. He was sent to Plainfield for a couple of weeks (possibly longer), then after his assessment/evaluation he was transferred to Westfield for a few months, then again transferred to Pendleton. Never definitively heard if he was kept separate from the general population or not. I’m guessing he probably was but that’s JMO.

Most people are wondering why he’s been transferred out of state. Hopefully that will be answered next week. If not, then oh well & good riddance, AFAIAC.
 

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