Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #198

[twall]

RA has been transported and booked into the Allen Co. jail.

www.allencountysheriff.org

Remember no perp walk as there is tunnel entry from jail to courthouse.

 

[Vern]

Just because Harshman didn’t hear him say this doesn’t mean he didn’t say it.

The defense wouldn’t openly lie in a motion to the court about that being one of his confessions. Imo

RBBM. Please provide the link to the specific Motion (Franks 1, 2, 3 or 4 possibly??) where the Defence has cited the confession of RAs regarding shooting Abby & Libby. If a Franks, which one because I can't seem to find it.

You've originally posed this question below and have received responses from sworn testimony. I'd like to see source of the confession that you are inquiring about that the Defence apparently included in a court motion.

I have a genuine question for people that believe RA’s confessions:

Do you also believe his confession about shooting the girls in the back?

MOO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

That's what I recall as well. I believe Harshman testified he never heard that statement from RA.

Just another complete falsehood offered in a motion by this defense team destroyed by sworn testimony.
There’s more to come I think!

 

[Vern]

D-Day

Today is the day.

Today is the day that the State of Indiana v. Richard M. Allen begins full time in the courtroom.

14-16 October: Jury Selection
17 Oct - 15 Nov: Trial

Trial Runs:
Monday through Saturdays (6 days per week)

Sessions Run:
0900 - 1800hrs daily
Doors open at 0830hrs.

____________

_Courthouse Management and Decorum Order.pdf

drive.google.com

Reminder for anyone attending in person:

Electronic Devices (phones, iPads, laptops, electronic watches, electronic eyeglasses, recording devices)

Electronic devices, such as laptops, iPads, cell phones, etc., shall not be permitted in the Allen County or Carroll County courthouse. Members of the press and public shall not use laptop computers, iPads, tablets, Kindles, cellular telephones, pagers, personal digital assistants, cameras, electronic watches, and electronic eyeglasses.

 

[Melted]

RBBM. Please provide the link to the specific Motion (Franks 1, 2, 3 or 4 possibly??) where the Defence has cited the confession of RAs regarding shooting Abby & Libby. If a Franks, which one because I can't seem to find it.

You've originally posed this question below and have received responses from sworn testimony. I'd like to see source of the confession that you are inquiring about that the Defence apparently included in a court motion.

It was in the motion to exclude confessions.

Here is the article you can find the motion.

“They say Allen “… ‘confessed’ to ‘molesting (those) two young girls and shooting them in the back.’ On another occasion, (Allen) professed his sorrow for molesting Abby, Libby, and others which he specifically named … These facts are known to be falsities, none of which are supported by the autopsy findings by Dr. Roland Kohr as to the cause of death of the girls and unsupported by the absence of any evidence that either one of the girls were sexually assaulted near or before the time of their deaths.”

Richard Allen’s attorneys file motion to suppress ‘confessions’ - Carroll County Comet

Richard Allen’s attorneys have filed a motion to suppress “incriminating statements” allegedly made by their client to inmates and employees at Westville Correctional Facility during his year-long stay there. They say the statements were involuntary, and obtained in violation of their client’s...

www.carrollcountycomet.com

 

[ClearAhead]

So I wonder who is it that has sufficient life’s experiences to permit making a judgement as to the mental state of Defendant Allen? The D certainly do not have expertise in the field of mental health either, and weren’t interested in dealing with or even getting an assessment of their client’s “mental breakdown” at the time. This motion reeks of last minute desperation IMO. Much like the results of the SW, the testimony of “guards, inmates and prison employees” must be extremely incriminating. JMO

Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen tries to block prison guards from testifying

Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen’s attorneys want to block prison guards from testifying about incriminating statements Allen might have said.

www.jconline.com

“Allen's attorneys argued that the statements were part of a mental breakdown Allen suffered from the isolation and harsh prison conditions.

In Friday's motion, Allen's attorneys argue the guards, inmates and prison employees "do not have sufficient life experiences that would permit making a judgment as to the mental state of Defendant Allen." The motion argues their testimony violates trial court rules for lay witnesses.

The testimony of guards, inmates and prison employees also violates a different trial court rule for expert witnesses because they do not have expertise in mental health, the motion argues.“

 

[Cyber sleuth]

It was in the motion to exclude confessions.

Here is the article you can find the motion.

“They say Allen “… ‘confessed’ to ‘molesting (those) two young girls and shooting them in the back.’ On another occasion, (Allen) professed his sorrow for molesting Abby, Libby, and others which he specifically named … These facts are known to be falsities, none of which are supported by the autopsy findings by Dr. Roland Kohr as to the cause of death of the girls and unsupported by the absence of any evidence that either one of the girls were sexually assaulted near or before the time of their deaths.”

Richard Allen’s attorneys file motion to suppress ‘confessions’ - Carroll County Comet

Richard Allen’s attorneys have filed a motion to suppress “incriminating statements” allegedly made by their client to inmates and employees at Westville Correctional Facility during his year-long stay there. They say the statements were involuntary, and obtained in violation of their client’s...

www.carrollcountycomet.com

Per the Defense’s motion to surpress filed April 11,2025. That snippet of a quote was testimony of an inmate companion, Lacy Patton Jr. page 10
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Like many skeptics, I would to hear this confession in its context to make a judgement on it’s validity. If audio recording is not available I would have to weight the reliability of the witness.
Does anyone know if this individual is on the defense witness list? And what is this inmate serving time for?

JMO

 

[Salah11]

So is anybody expecting a few bombshells as we still know so little?!

 

[mrjitty]

So is anybody expecting a few bombshells as we still know so little?!

I'd kind of be surprised if there is anything totally new. Often the surprises are in the detail IMO

What I expect if that all the distractions are going to be stripped away, and the trial will focus on what matters. IMO the case laid out so far is simple, and raises a strong suspicion (so called probable cause or 'a case to answer'). Now we find out if they can stand it up.

MOO

 

[SouthEnd]

I'd kind of be surprised if there is anything totally new. Often the surprises are in the detail IMO

What I expect if that all the distractions are going to be stripped away, and the trial will focus on what matters. IMO the case laid out so far is simple, and raises a strong suspicion (so called probable cause or 'a case to answer'). Now we find out if they can stand it up.

MOO

100%

What I am expecting is having a strong separation of provable facts vs allegations/speculation. A lot of speculative evidence have been introduced to the public sphere via the FMs and more. On the stand we will get to see what actually passes the threshold, and what kind of picture it all paints.

MOO

 

[snooptroop88]

So is anybody expecting a few bombshells as we still know so little?!

One thing I'd be shocked by is if this story about LE digging up a dead cat of RA's and finding hair that matched DNA from the CS-- I'll be completely floored if that's true. I find that hard to believe, that such a piece of evidence exists and has never been widely discussed in all this time.

That's lightning bolt territory, but probably a tall tale or some kind of misunderstanding. I've heard that on a few sources, though. (Eh, Daily Mail, but others, too.)

 

[SouthEnd]

One thing I'd be shocked by is if this story about LE digging up a dead cat of RA's and finding hair that matched DNA from the CS-- I'll be completely floored if that's true. I find that hard to believe, that such a piece of evidence exists and has never been widely discussed in all this time.

That's lightning bolt territory, but probably a tall tale or some kind of misunderstanding. I've heard that on a few sources, though. (Eh, Daily Mail, but others, too.)

I would not be shocked if the LE has dug up RA's yard. For whatever reason - criminals have been known to bury evidence etc, so if the LE was tipped off, had a hunch/saw some irregularities and wanted to be thorough, I would not be surprised if there was digging.

jmo

 

[snooptroop88]

I would not be shocked if the LE has dug up RA's yard. For whatever reason - criminals have been known to bury evidence etc, so if the LE was tipped off, had a hunch/saw some irregularities and wanted to be thorough, I would not be surprised if there was digging.

jmo

There was for sure digging, but did LE really get this mystery hair? I mean, could they have something like that and we wouldn't be well aware of it by now? (Is that possible?)

 

[Niner]

Okay - this is quite long... Glad I can shorten this up a bit.

Monday, October 14th:
*Jury Selection set to begin (@ 9am ET) – IN – Abigail Joyce Williams (13) & Liberty Rose Lynn German (14) (Missing Feb. 13, 2017, found killed Feb. 14, 2017, after walking on a local hiking trail & were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the Monon High Bridge Trail, Delphi) – *Richard “Ricky/Rick” Matthew Allen (44 @ time of crime/50/now 52) arrested & booked (10/26/22) into the Carroll County Jail & charged & arraigned (10/28/22) with 2 counts of murder while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of both victims. Plead not guilty. Held without bond.
Amended charges (1/18/24/granted 3/18/24): 2 counts of felony murder (knowingly & intentionally), 2 counts of murder (while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of both victims). Transferred to White County jail from Carroll County for security reasons. And was transferred (11/2/22) to IN. DOC at Westville Correctional Facility at a more secure facility. Was awaiting transfer to Westville Correctional Facility but Judge Gull denied move (6/15/23). She plans to take the arguments under advisement & will make a ruling on whether or not he will be moved out of Westville at a later date. Judge Gull denied move (7/5/23). On 12/6/23 Allen was transferred from Westville to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility (long term segregation). Allen was booked (5/6/24) into the Allen County Jail [for hearing on 5/7/24]. Allen back (5/7/24) to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility. Judge Gull granted transfer of custody to the Carroll County Sheriff [instead of IDOC] but will be held in Cass County jail until trial [8/1/24]. Carroll County
Trial set to begin with jury selection on 10/14/24 (thru 10/16) & Trial reset to begin on 10/18/24. Jury will be sequestered. Mondays thru Saturdays from 9am to 6pm.
Allen County Judge Frances C. Gull presiding / Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland & Special Prosecutor James David Luttrull, Jr.
Andrew Baldwin & Bradley Rozzi are Allen’s public appointed attorneys & added Jennifer Auger [addressing the circumstances surrounding digital forensics].
Jury will be chosen from among 600 people from Fort Wayne, Allen County [will be transported to Delphi for trial]. Special judge Frances Gull expects jury selection to take approximately three days [10/14 thru 10/16]. She said the jury would then be sworn in on the fourth day (10/17/24) with opening statements beginning by Day 5, 10/18/24. That means the jury could start hearing testimony on 10/19/24. After jury selection, the actual trial phase of the proceedings will take place at the Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi. Gull confirmed Allen’s trial will take place six days a week — Monday through Saturday — if there are no religious objections from any of the jurors.
Charges, case & court info from 4/19/21 thru 8/16/24 reference post #955 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ers-richard-allen-arrested-193.721525/page-48
Judge Gull will hold hearings in Carroll County on Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday. She’s scheduled to hear multiple motions over the course of the three days:
*State’s Motion for Admissibility (filed May 6, 2024) [Under Advisement/8/1/24] [Granted on 8/28/24]
*Defense Motion to Suppress Second Statement (filed April 15, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/31/24] [Denied on 8/28/24]
*State’s Objection to Defendant’s Motion to Suppress (filed April 15, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/31/24] [Granted on 8/28/24]
*Defendant’s Motion to Compel & Motion for Sanctions (filed April 23, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/30/24]. [Denied on 8/15/24].
*Defendant’s Motion to Vacate Safekeeping Order (filed May 13, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/30/24]. 8/1/24: Order to vacate granted by Judge.
*State’s Motion in Limine (filed April 28, 2024) [Under Advisement/8/1/24]. [Granted & Denied in part on 9/4/24].
*Defense Response to State’s Motion in Limine [Under Advisement/8/1/24] [Granted & Denied in part on 9/4/24].
*Defendant’s Second Motion to Dismiss (filed May 20, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/30/24/withdrawn by defense/7/31/24] [Denied on 8/15/24].
*State’s Response to Defendant’s Second Motion to Dismiss (filed June 9, 2024) [Under Advisement/7/31/24] [Denied]
Transcripts of the 3-day hearing link: https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aa...jatyBBg3jGPmgBmTR8_aem_8R6ZReLchOkMcOPsLVa0iw
8/20/24 Docket update: Correspondence to/from Court filed. [Subject: Cease & Desist: Unlawful Transcript Fees/want to charge him $5.57 instead of $1 per page] filed by Anthony Greeno, True Crime Investigates.
link: [URL='https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/...JBhUawfyHw&viewer!megaVerb=group-discover[/I][/url]
Next Status hearing on 8/23/24 @ 1pm.
8/22/24 Docket update: Order Issued. This case has generated substantial public interest & media attention. In light of this, and on the Court's own motion to ensure the integrity of the proceedings, to protect the Defendant's constitutional rights for due process, to ensure the safety of the parties & the public & to permit public access to criminal proceedings, the Court sets forth the following rules & guidelines for the hearing set for Friday, 8/23/24, in the Carroll Circuit Court. The Courthouse will open at 8am. All entrances will be closed, except for the handicapped entrance on the north side of the building. The remaining entrances will be locked with no access to the public. All members of the public, including members of the media, are subject to screening by metal detectors. All bags in possession of those entering the building are subject to search. NO weapons of any kind are permitted in the building, except for on-duty law enforcement officers providing security to the Courthouse & the parties. Cellular telephones are permitted in the building, but must be powered OFF & unused at all times while in the building or the Courtrooms. Violations are subject to seizure & destruction of the cellular telephone. No electronic equipment or devices are permitted in the Carroll Circuit Court. The first portion of the hearing will be closed to the public & the media by agreement of counsel & the Court. The Court will declare a recess at the conclusion of the closed hearing. The Court will then reconvene in open court at the end of the recess. This portion of the hearing will be open to the public & the media. Media personnel are permitted to attend the Court session. NO cameras, electronics, lap tops or recording equipment of any kind is permitted in the Carroll Circuit Courtroom. The Court requests the media be mindful that other County offices are conducting business in the building unrelated to this case. Media & members of the public are ordered to conduct themselves in such a fashion as to limit disruption to the offices, personnel & patrons of those offices. The Media are free to use the public areas outside the Courthouse as long as they do not obstruct traffic in the streets & sidewalks surrounding the Courthouse. Seating in the Carroll Circuit Court is limited. The first row of public seats behind the bar separating the well of the courtroom from the public is unavailable for seating. The Sheriff of Carroll County or his designee will ensure that the victim representatives & defendant's family are seated. The remaining seating is available until full. No one, other than Court Security, will be permitted to stand in the Courtroom. All spectators must remain seated until the conclusion of the hearings & the parties have left the Courtroom. No food or beverages are permitted inside the Carroll Circuit Court. Water will be permitted for the parties in the well of the Courtroom. All members of the public & the media are required to follow directives of the Sheriff of Carroll County, Courthouse Security & Courtroom Security. NO court-produced recording will be made available to the public or media. The audio record made pursuant to Indiana Criminal Rule 5 may not be copied or used for purposes other than perpetuating the record. The Court anticipates that all members of the public & the media will conduct themselves in an appropriate fashion. Any violation of this Order & any conduct the Court finds disruptive of the proceedings may result in an order of temporary or permanent exclusion from the Courtroom and/or Courthouse and is punishable as contempt of Court. Signed by Judge Frances Gull. Noticed to: Mceland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
8/23/24 Docket update: Motion for Order to Shorten Discovery Time filed by len. 2nd Motion for Order to Shorten by Allen. Links: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy & https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy
Motion to Quash Deposition filed by State.[Subpoenas for Patrick Westfall, Nick Westfall & Tobe Leazenby] & Motion to Quash Deposition of David Schilling filed by State. [Rebuttal witness to testify as an expert on Odinism].
Links: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy & https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy
Subpoena Duces Tecum [for Sheriff commanded to summon, IDOC documentation requested] & Subpoena Duces Tecum [filed subpoenas for DOC therapist Dr. Monica Walla's work records, including performance evaluations, attendance records, internal investigations regarding employment matters & conflict of interest statements. Allen's attorneys asked Special Judge Frances Gull to order the records be turned over in 15 days, rather than the typical 30 days].
Links: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy & https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TDmAjEwr7dQ2Up6fWLz1tjz5ydgSw7dy
8/23/24 Update: Judge Gull held one status hearing Friday afternoon behind closed doors in case against suspect Allen. A second scheduled hearing was expected to be in public hearing, was canceled, without explanation.
8/27/24 Docket update: Appearance filed/Temporary appearance of Jessica Fidler, MD [a family physician at Greencastle Family Health] filed. Motion to Quash subpoena filed by Jessica Fidler, MD. Proposed Order on motion to quash for Fidler. Response by State to Defense's memorandum filed.
8/28/24 Docket update: Order Issued. The Court, having reviewed the Motion to Quash Subpoena filed by Jessica Fidler, M.D., on 8/26/24, now finds that the Motion is well founded in law & the Indiana Trial Rules & grants the Motion to Quash Subpoena. Signed by Judge Gull; noticed to: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi Luttrull, Diener & Auger. 8/28/24 Docket update: Order Issued. At request of counsel, Court orders the Clerk of Carroll County to withdraw the appearances of the attorneys delineated in the order, as they were entered as intervenors or for a limited purpose. Signed by Judge Gull; noticed to McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
8/29/24 Update: Confessions made by Allen may be used as evidence in his upcoming trial. Judge Gull made that ruling Thursday, saying all statements made by Allen to psychologists, inmates, guards, police & family are admissible. 8/29/24 Docket update: Order Issued. The Court, having had this matter under advisement following a hearing conducted on 7/31/24, on the Defendant's Motion to Suppress Statements (filed 4/11/24), the State's Objection to Defendant's Motion to Suppress Filed 4/11/24 (filed 4/23/24), the State's Motion to Dismiss the Motion to Suppress Filed 4/11/24 (filed 5/17/24), & the State's Motion for Admissibility (filed 5/6/24), and having considered the witnesses' testimony, the exhibits admitted into evidence, the arguments of counsel & the applicable statutes & case law, now grants the State's Request for Pre-Trial Ruling on Admissibility pursuant to I.C. 25-33-1-17. The statements given by defendant to Dr. Monica H. Wala, Psy.D., are not privileged based upon the exception noted in the Statute, "(1) Trials for homicide when the disclosure relates directly to the fact or immediate circumstances of said homicide." All statements given by defendant to Dr. Wala are admissible in the trial. Defendant's arguments to the contrary go to the weight the jury would give such statements, not their admissibility. Having taken the State's Motion to Dismiss the Motion to Suppress Filed 4/11/24 under advisement at the hearing, the Court agrees with the State that the defendant has failed to comply with the Criminal Rules of Procedure by neglecting to clearly state which specific statements he is seeking to suppress, nor the legal basis for the suppression. Despite these deficiencies, the Court has been able to determine that the statements given to the defendant's family members were voluntary, not coerced by any State action & were not made under threats of violence, or improper influence. Although the Defendant is clearly in custody, he initiated the communication with his family & was not subject to custodial interrogation when he spoke to this family. Further, the statements given by defendant to the correctional officers, inmate companions, the Warden, mental health personnel, medical personnel & the Indiana State Police were unsolicited by any of those individuals & were voluntarily given without coercion or interrogation. The defendant has not shown that he suffered from psychological coercion by the State which caused him to make these statements. To the contrary, the evidence shows he specifically sought out the Warden by written communication he initiated & verbal statements he offered to guards, inmate companions, mental health professionals & medical personnel. The defendant has failed to show any of these statements were the result of coercive interrogation by the State, or that they were the result of his pretrial detention. The totality of the circumstances of defendant's pretrial detention were not intended to force confessions from the defendant. The defendant's pretrial detention is to protect him from harm. The Court is not persuaded that the detention caused the defendant to make incriminating statements. While the defendant does suffer from major depressive disorder & anxiety, those are not serious mental illnesses that prevent the defendant from making voluntary statements. The Court finds the statements given by the defendant to Dr. Wala, the Warden, inmates, guards, medical personnel, mental health professionals & law enforcement personnel were not coerced, were voluntary, were not the result of interrogation by the State or its actors, nor the product of his confinement and, therefore, denies the defendant's Motion to Suppress Statements filed 4/11/24. Judicial Officer Frances GUll; noticed: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger. 8/29/24 Docket update: Notice of delivery of transcript filed. Noticed: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
8/30/24 Docket update: Order granting Motion for Order to shorten Discovery response period & Order granting 2nd Motion for Order to shorten Discovery response period both signed by Judge Gull.
9/4/24 Docket update: Order Issued. The Court having had the State's Motion in Limine under advisement following a hearing conducted on 8/1/24 & having heard & considered the evidence, admitted exhibits, arguments of counsel, Defendant's Supplement Submission regarding State's Motion in Limine (filed 8/13/24) & the State's response to defendant's Memorandum of Law (filed 8/26/24) grants paragraphs 1 thru 6, over defendant's objection & grants paragraphs 8 thru 12 over defendant's objection. As it relates to paragraph 7, the burden is on the defendant to show a nexus between Odinism, cult or ritualistic killing, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Johnny Messer, Elvis Fields, Ned Smith, Rod Abrahms, Kegan Kline, Jerry Kline, Ron Logan & the murders of the 2 victims. The case law is quite clear that the nexus must not be based on speculation, conjecture, rumors or hearsay, but rather on admissible evidence. The Court finds the defense has failed to produce admissible evidence demonstrating a nexus between Odinism, cult or ritualistic killing, Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, Johnny Messer, Elvis Fields, Ned Smith, Rod Abrahms, Kegan Kline, Jerry Kline, Ron Logan & the murders. Therefore, the Court grants paragraph 7 of the State's Motion in Limine over defendant's objection. The Court will not permit the evidence submitted by the defense in support of their arguments regarding third-party perpetrators in the trial of this cause as the probative value of such evidence is greatly outweighed by confusion of the issues & its potential to islead the jury. The Court will allow the evidence to support an offer of proof at the trial if one is made by Counsel. Jury selection will commence in Allen Superior Court, 10/14/24 with trial commencing in the Carroll Circuit Court, concluding 11/15/24. Signed by Judge Gull. Noticed: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
9/4/24 Docket update: Order Issued. Defendant appears with Attorneys Bradley Rozzi & Jennifer Auger. State appears by Prosecuting Attorney Nicholas McLeland & Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Stacey Diener. Closed status hearing [8/23/24] conducted & concluded. Noticed: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
9/9/24 Docket updates: Motion to shorten time filed. Third Motion for Order to shorten Discovery response period. Filed by Allen. Motion to Certify Interlocutory Order for Appeal filed. Motion for Court to Certify Court Order for Interlocutory Appeal pursuant to Appellate Rule 14 & request to rule expeditiously on said motion filed by Baldwin, Rozzi & Auger. [Allen’s defense has signaled they want the Indiana Court of Appeals to overturn Special Judge Fran Gull’s decision barring them from presenting its Odinisim theory in court]. [See post #899, page 45, thread #195].
9/10/24 Docket update: Objection filed by State's Response for Motion to Certify Court Order for Interlocutory appeal [see post 35-37, page 3, thread #196.
9/11/24 Docket update: Order Issued. The Court, having had the Defendant's Motion for Court to Certify Court Orders For Interlocutory Appeal Pursuant to Appellate Rule 14 & Request to Rule Expeditiously on Said Motion, filed 9/9/24 & the State's Objection to Certification of Orders to Allow for Interlocutory Appeal, filed 9/10/24, under advisement, now denies the Motion to Certify Court Orders. Trial remains set 10/14/24-11/15/24, with jury selection being conducted in Allen County & trial being conducted in Carroll County. Signed by Judge Gull. Noticed to McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, Luttrull, Diener & Auger.
9/23/24 Docket update: Motion for Jury to view scene [asks the Court to order that the empaneled jury be transported to the Freedom Bridge, the Monon High Bridge & to the site where the bodies of the victims were located, as well as the site of the old CPA building where the prosecution claims Allen's vehicle was parked between 1:30pm & 4pm on 2/13/17 filed by Andrew Baldwin. For more info see posts #650 & 651, page 33, thread 196.
9/23/24 Docket update: Motion to Compel Deponent's to Answer Certified Questions [specifically for Jerry Holeman, John Galipeau, Joshua Robinson & Steven Mullin] filed by Andrew Baldwin. For more info see link: https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:9e3b8fe5-6661-4c30-a30b-7398df5f9860
9/25/24 Docket update: Order issued. Court takes defendant's Motion for Jury to View Scene under advisement pending a response by the State of Indiana & a hearing to be conducted at the conclusion of jury selection in Allen County. Judge Frances Gull. Noticed: McLeland, Baldwin, Rozzi, L, Diener & Auger.
8/27/24 Docket update: Judge Frances Gull has issued the following Courthouse Management & Decorum Order for jury selection on 10/14-16/24. See post #, page 1, thread 197 for more info. Judge is also taking Allen's request to have jury view the relevant areas near the bridge under advisement, until a hearing is held at the conclusion of jury selection.
9//27/24 Docket updates: State's Response to Motion to Compel Deponents to Answer. State's Objection to Defense request to visit crime scene. State's Motion in Limine regarding Defense Witness [regarding a witness the defense planned to call regarding ballistics evidence. The state requested a hearing outside the presence of the jury to determine if the witness’ testimony was relevant to the case. The prosecution contended the witness [William Tobin] was not an expert in the field of firearms examination & questioned his ability to testify about ballistics evidence. An unspent round ejected from a gun owned by Allen is a key piece of evidence in the case as laid out in the probable cause affidavit-see pdf on post #702 page 36, thread #197]. State’s response Motion to Certify. Non-Party Indiana DOC's response to defendant's Motion to Compel deponents to answer certified questions [The defense filed a motion to compel seeking to force law enforcement officers to answer certain questions they declined to answer in their depositions. The state argued that DOC personnel at the center of the request were protected by attorney-client privilege. Other aspects of the depositions involving investigators constituted trial strategy & the defense was not entitled to the information, the state argued]. The "Exhibits A through D" (transcripts [now completed apparently of actual questions posed). For more info see post #76 here: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ders-richard-allen-arrested-197.724817/page-4
9/30/24 Docket update: News Media Coalition's Motion to Inspect Public Trial Exhibits filed by Margaret M. Christensen [Daniel P. Byron & Jessica Laurin Meek of Dentons Bingham Greenebaum LLP]. Attorneys for Indiana Broadcasters, Association, Inc.; Hoosier State Press Association, Inc.; The Associated Press; Circle City Broadcasting I, LLC d/b/a WISH-TV; E.W. Scripps Company d/b/a WRTV; Nexstar Media Inc. d/b/a WXIN/WTTV; Neuhoff Media Lafayette, LLC; Woof Boom Radio LLC; TEGNA Inc. d/b/a WTHR; Gannett Satellite Information Indiana Newspapers, LLC d/b/a The Indianapolis Star; and American Broadcasting Companies, Inc. d/b/a ABC News. For document see post #363, page 19, thread #197.
10/1/24 Docket update: Defendant's Notice of submission of supplemental witness & Exhibit list to the Ste. Praecipe for transcript filed by Allen. Notice to Court filed: Supplemental witness list & Exhibit Notice 2 filed by State.
10/2/24 Update: Special Judge Frances Gull has issued a final order banning cameras from the courtroom when Allen stands trial for a double murder later this month, a decision that reflects the judge’s earlier denial of camera access to many pretrial hearings. In a courthouse management & decorum order issued on Monday, Gull ruled that no photography, video or audio recording devices will be allowed in the Carroll Circuit Courtroom during the trial. These devices will only be permitted outside the courthouse. “The purpose of this order is to secure the defendant’s constitutional rights to fair & impartial jury while permitting the public & the press to exercise their First Amendment rights. In addition, the order protects the identity of jurors,” Gull wrote. In addition, all electronic devices, including tablets, laptops & electronic watches, will not be allowed in the courtroom. But a system has been established to allow reporters in the courtroom. The trial is set to begin on Oct. 18 in Carroll County, with jury selection scheduled for Oct. 14-16 in Allen County.
10/7/24 Docket update: Defendant's response to State's Motion in Limine regarding defense witness [re testimony of William A. Tobin]. See post #727, page 37, thread #197. 10/7/24 Docket update: Motion For Order On Designated Defense Representatives. See link for more info: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EOiKtqX5VVoJR3Bqs9v-qa64oH6QC52D/view
10/10/24 Update: Jurors for the anticipated month-long trial of Allen are scheduled to be selected in Allen County from Oct. 14 through 16. The jurors would then be taken to Carroll County for the start of the Oct. 17 trial & opening statements on Oct. 18 with Allen County Special Judge Frances Gull presiding over the proceedings.
10/10/24 Docket updates: Motion for Transport Order of IDOC Inmate #240045 [James Haas]. Motion for Transport Order of IDOC Inmate #294614 [Kegan Kline]. Motion for Transport Order of IDOC Inmate #286303 [James Chadwell]. Motion for Transport Order of IDOC Inmate #114393 [Ricci Davis] all filed by Allen.
10/11/24 Docket update: Motion in Limine. [Defendant Allen has reason to believe that the State of Indiana may seek to admit at the trial of this cause, testimony from various prison guards, inmates, LE officers & possibly the testimony of other IDOC staff members as to Defendant Allen's mental state during his detention at the Westville Correctional Facility & Wabash Valley Correctional Facility. The defense believes the State's offering of said testimony will be driven by their desire to use said guards, inmates, administrators & LE officers to establish the veracity of alleged incriminating statements made by Defendant Allen] filed by Bradley Rozzi. Ses post #10, page 1, thread #198.
10/11/24 Docket Update: Verified Motion For Certificate Of Appearance Regarding Out-Of-State Witness. For more info see link: [URL='https://drive.google.com/file...d/1_srssXoVa0gt6p-iCI21ya-0fI1KOWzK/view[/url] 10/11/24 Docket update: Defendant's Motion to incorporate evidence presented at the 8/1/24 pretrial hearing into offer of proof at trial filed by Andrew Baldwin. See post #44, page 3, thread #198. [Motion is just the defense telling the court that they do plan to make an offer of proof regarding 3rd party culpability at trial & that rather than recall all the witnesses to testify in court during the offer of proof, the defense would ask the court to defer to what was said during the hearings]. 10/11/24 Docket update: Order for Transport for James Haas-granted. The other 3 not yet granted.

 

[girlhasnoname]

In reviewing the recent filings by the Defence, I note that they do intend to call Dr. Wala to testify at the trial.

Interesting to note that at the time of the three day hearings Dr. Wala was a Psychologist employeed by IDOCs 3rd Party Contractor - Centurion - to provide mental health services to IDOC inmates. In the days following the 3 Day Hearings, Dr. Wala was issued a ''gate disclosure" by IDOC and "may no longer be empoyeed by Centurion" and "the Defense just recently became aware of said gate disclosure and of apparent termination of employment with Centurion".

I wonder if her termination resulted from her sworn testimony during the 3 Day Hearings that she has accessed other inmates records without authorization / and was a member of social media sites dedicated to discussions of the case. Anyone on here in the Health Care profession that can confirm whether those are considered HIPAA violations? To me these seem like ethical concerns that directly relate to her 'professionalism' IMO. Source is MS 3 Day Hearings.

_Verified Motion for Certificate of Appearance Regarding Out-of-State Witness.pdf

drive.google.com

I believe Dr. Wala was following the Delphi murders and even visited Delphi before RA was even arrested and she was assigned as RA's Psychologist. I believe she should have disclosed this to her employer. Maybe she did? IDK

It is definitely against the rules to access medical records of patients that you are not treating. HIPPA or ethical, it was wrong on her part and I'm not surprised she is no longer employed by Centurion after her admissions. I believe the D will be all over it to discredit her entire testimony. The jury may have a problem with her over that, but also may give some consideration to parts of her testimony.

The D subpoenaed her work records and hopefully she has a good employment history.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I think it was the correct decision to remove them but she did not do it correctly. JMO

^^100% This

 

[girlhasnoname]

I agree the whole thing is a Hail Mary, but they are indeed on a witness list for some reason. What are some other guesses to why?

jmo

Maybe to show that they were at one time POI's, but to me that works in the State's favor. It shows they were not singularly focused on RA.

The D could also be using them to try and fill the time slot of 2 weeks that they demanded they needed for trial when they asked for a continuance in May. lol

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

Is the New York Post a Legit source?

LE was searching RA's yard for sure.
There is a picture in this article of a burn pile by RA's shed taken by RA's neighbor.

Delphi suspect Richard Allen involved in ‘domestic incident’ 2 years before teens’ murders

In June 2015, less than two years before Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, their accused killer Richard Allen was involved in a domestic incident.

nypost.com

 

[shonyakay]

Cops searched Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen’s home for 12 hours: neighbors

Non-uniform officers searched Richard Allen’s home, which he shared with wife Kathy, and their property for about 12 hours, according to neighbors.

nypost.com

 

[Megnut]

I have a genuine question for people that believe RA’s confessions:

Do you also believe his confession about shooting the girls in the back?

MOO

I'm not certain those were RA's words but I think it's entirely possible that that was his plan. We know he had a gun. We know he forced them to undress, which IMO is a SA in its own right.

JMO