Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #202

[everlearning]

Wow, not sure what to make of this testimony.

She "saw a group of people at the Mears entrance, including a man covered in mud and blood and a girl wearing pink who appeared visibly stressed. She said she drove past the man, who did not acknowledge her, but says she later recognized him as “Bridge Guy.” She waited three weeks to report who she saw to police, saying she was afraid."

Who was the girl in pink?

She also says that "the Bridge Guy’s jacket was dark enough to where she wouldn’t have seen blood on it, and but his jeans were light enough to show the mud on them. The jury finished by asking how close she was to Bridge Guy when she saw him at the Mears entrance, to which she answered he was within three feet of the passenger side."

Source: Delphi Murders Trial: Day 5 live blog

My first question is who is the girl in pink!?

 

[shonyakay]

Wow, not sure what to make of this testimony.

She "saw a group of people at the Mears entrance, including a man covered in mud and blood and a girl wearing pink who appeared visibly stressed. She said she drove past the man, who did not acknowledge her, but says she later recognized him as “Bridge Guy.” She waited three weeks to report who she saw to police, saying she was afraid."

Who was the girl in pink?

She also says that "the Bridge Guy’s jacket was dark enough to where she wouldn’t have seen blood on it, and but his jeans were light enough to show the mud on them. The jury finished by asking how close she was to Bridge Guy when she saw him at the Mears entrance, to which she answered he was within three feet of the passenger side."

Source: Delphi Murders Trial: Day 5 live blog

I think this testimony is all running together. Keep in mind Sarah Carbaugh saw this man at 3:57 p.m. on CR 300 N.
The family would have already began gathering across from the Mears' farm entrance to look for the girls.

 

[FrostedGlass]

It's hard to believe we have yet another case of missing parts of an interview.
Sarah Carbaugh is the dog walker.
her June 2017 interview with police had an hour of it missing.

She continued by discussing her June 2017 interview and the portion that had been missing. She said that the part where she was asked to mark the Bridge Guy photo was a part of the missing interview block.

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 5 live blog

Wednesday is day 5 of testimonies in the Delphi Murders trial begins at the Carroll County courthouse. Follow our live blog for updates.

www.wishtv.com

 

[Tricia]

Continue

This is excellent and should be pinned. Very thorough and easy to track

I will note to carry this post over when we start a new thread.

 

[Purdue19]

She "saw a group of people at the Mears entrance, including a man covered in mud and blood and a girl wearing pink who appeared visibly stressed. She said she drove past the man, who did not acknowledge her, but says she later recognized him as “Bridge Guy.” She waited three weeks to report who she saw to police, saying she was afraid."

Source: Delphi Murders Trial: Day 5 live blog

Snipped for clarity.

According to IndyStar, she saw the man covered in mud and blood later.

At around 4 p.m., Carbaugh said she saw a group of people at the train entrance looking stressed out.

Later, as she was heading east on the county road, she drove past a man.

It's times like this where relying on media notes instead of hearing it straight from the source is problematic. WISH8 makes it sound like SC say the man and the girl dressed in pink at the same time, both at the Mears entrance, while IndyStar says they were separate sightings. Delphi murder trial witness: 'I saw a man covered in mud and blood' walking on road

 

[shonyakay]

My first question is who is the girl in pink!?

Probably a family member of Libby's. This was at 3:57 p.m.

 

[Cedars]

But what do their descriptions matter when there is photographic evidence of a man that they all agree is the man they saw that day?

I think what the Prosecution are really doing at this point of the trial is recreating how they came to that timeline.

When you have multiple sightings that people reported, along with video footage of vehicles, that creates the timeline, and it is the timeline that is important.

That's why Allen jumped out to them as a suspect. Not what he looked like, but his own admitted timeline.

IMO, it is forest vs trees. If you just look at each tree and think - that's not an impressive tree, I'm not impressed, you are missing the point, which, the Prosecution hopes, is an impressive forest.

JMO

 

[vinayd]

This is disturbing. Did she see Abby and RA/BG? I feel Abby's shirt was described as pink. Hope to learn more in testimony, looking for more info!

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849122694295412807

 

[shonyakay]

This is disturbing. Did she see Abby and RA/BG? I feel Abby's shirt was described as pink. Hope to learn more in testimony, looking for more info!

Abby's shirt was maroon. Not pink. No one saw Abby, Libby, "BG", or RA on the trails after BB saw the man on platform one and Abby and Libby heading to the bridge around 2:00 p.m.

 

[ClearAhead]

Wow, not sure what to make of this testimony.

She "saw a group of people at the Mears entrance, including a man covered in mud and blood and a girl wearing pink who appeared visibly stressed. She said she drove past the man, who did not acknowledge her, but says she later recognized him as “Bridge Guy.” She waited three weeks to report who she saw to police, saying she was afraid."

Who was the girl in pink?

She also says that "the Bridge Guy’s jacket was dark enough to where she wouldn’t have seen blood on it, and but his jeans were light enough to show the mud on them. The jury finished by asking how close she was to Bridge Guy when she saw him at the Mears entrance, to which she answered he was within three feet of the passenger side."

Source: Delphi Murders Trial: Day 5 live blog

This mysterious girl in pink is why LE thought others were involved. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

This is disturbing. Did she see Abby and RA/BG? I feel Abby's shirt was described as pink. Hope to learn more in testimony, looking for more info!

 

[TristanP]

good morning fellow sleuthers

I think there’s one thing we can all agree on:

If Richard Allen is innocent we want a lot guilty verdict

If Richard Allen is guilty we want a guilty verdict.

How about it?

I agree with you, but what we all should really want is the actual TRUTH. Regardless of which verdict that leads us to.

Too many people, on "both sides" are twisting info presented to mean something that favors their side. They need to remember the evidence is neutral.

 

[Bbgiraffe]

She sounds something between unresponsive and defensive. Not the best witness, from that report.

Seems annoyed with the defense putting words in her mouth "feminine eyes" and she said she didn't say that.

 

[katydid23]

Probably a stupid question but going to ask anyway- are all of the eye witnesses teens and adults female?

Are we to assume that no other male was on/around the trails/bridge for those few hours? Just bridge guy?

and since RA said he was on the bridge that day around that time then RA=BG

Just seems odd if there were multiple females and just one guy- but maybe I’m missing something obvious

Moo

I don't know of any other guys being out there on the bridge, at that time. There was a local man on the trailhead, that Libby's father saw when he 1st arrived, to pick up the girls. And there was reportedly a couple, man and woman, seen standing under the bridge at one point, seen by some witnesses. But I don't know of any other males right there at the bridge at the time. Only 'two' are BG and RA---who could be the same guy.

 

[ClearAhead]

She sounds something between unresponsive and defensive. Not the best witness, from that report.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849122694295412807

“Says BG was muddy and bloody on his clothesSays blood was on lower legs, feet and anklesSays rest of him was muddy as if he had fallen down a hill or in a muddy creek.”

Finally the muddy and bloody or just plain muddy debate can end. I bet the DT feel a migraine coming on.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

I don't know of any other guys being out there on the bridge, at that time. There was a local man on the trailhead, that Libby's father saw when he 1st arrived, to pick up the girls. And there was reportedly a couple, man and woman, seen standing under the bridge at one point, seen by some witnesses. But I don't know of any other males right there at the time. Only 'two' are BG and RA---who could be the same guy.

Thank you- trying to keep it all straight in my head-

 

[shonyakay]

This mysterious girl in pink is why LE thought others were involved. JMO

Not necessarily. Someone just posted that there was a group of people who looked stressed.
This was at 3:57 p.m. Derrick arrived at 3:15 p.m. to pick up the girls' across from the Mears' farm and they were not there. He began calling family members and those family members began heading to the trails.

It was right after seeing the stressed group that she saw the muddy bloody man walking down CR 300 N. away from Monon HIgh Bridge in the direction of the old CPS building.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

The Indystar update and wishtv update from this morning don’t appear that similar to me?? Gets so confusing. As always, wish we could hear it for ourselves!

JMO

That sure would help to keep things straight. IMO

 

[misantha]

I’ve wondered this for a while, in part because out there in the ether is a certain past POI who matches the eyewitness descriptions better than RA, matches the sketches at least equally well, sounds just like BG, is currently in prison for attempted murder of a child, and as far as I know doesn’t have an alibi and has never been officially cleared.

If this is true, then why wouldn't the defense focus on this? In my mind, this would be a much better "reasonable doubt" argument than throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks....like there must have been someone under the bridge luring them down or they were taken somewhere else the day they went missing. Of course the defense hasn't put on their case yet. The key point to me is whether RA = BG. If you could point to anyone else that could be BG, why wouldn't you?