Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #206

[Arkay]

“I’ve never met them [the girls],” Allen said.

He then revealed that he was “going to shoot” himself that night.

“It’s not like I killed two girls and now I’ve got psychological problems,” he said.

Liggett showed him a photo of a black car. “That’s your car,” he said.

After showing him a photo of “Bridge Guy,” Mullin asked, “Is that you?”

“That is not me,” Allen said of the photo. “If it’s taken with the girls’ phone, that is not me.”

Very interesting.

Two things that stand out to me—-

It’s entirely plausible that he never “met” the girls, as in ever being introduced to them or ever interacting with them before that day.

They are too young to have gone without an adult to pick up a prescription at the counter, unless Indiana permits that, unlike my state.

Also, his “if” is very “iffy.”

His presence or absence at the bridge does not rely on who recorded him.

He was either there or not there. He told us he was there, so IMO that is enough.

Tag, RA. You're it. By your own account.

JMO

 

[steeltowngirl]

I wonder why to RA that matters? The Bolded portion? If he never saw the girls and isn't BG why does it matter if BG was wearing a Carhart jacket or not. The correct answer would seem to be - that is not me on the bridge behind those girls I never saw. Period.

Why was it instead - well that guy doesn't even look like he's wearing a Carhart to me?

Is that a Carhartt jacket?
-then that can’t be me

Is that photo taken with the girls camera?
-can’t be me

 

[shonyakay]

In court, Blair confirmed that she would have seen the man on the bridge toward the beginning of her third walking loop. She estimated he was about 15 feet away from her.

https://www.wane.com/top-stories/delphi-native-reflects-on-abby-libbys-legacy-in-town/

Blair, is Betsy Blair who arrived at the Mears' parking entrance at 1:46 p.m.

She saw "BG" on Platform 1 from 50 feet away shortly before she saw Abby and Libby walking on the trail after they had been dropped off by Kelsi at 1:49 p.m. Abby and Libby were heading to the Monon High Bridge, where BB had just seen "BG" on Platform 1.

That means digital evidence confirms that BB saw "BG" somewhere between 1:46 p.m. when BB arrived, and 2:05 p.m. when Libby, who was standing on the bridge, took a Snapchat photo of just the bridge, between Platform 1 and Platform 2.

When BB left she drove past the Hoosier Harvest Store's camera at 2:14 p.m.

All of this is contained in an official document, RA's PCA.

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2022/11/Probable-Cause-Affidavit-Richard-Allen.pdf

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851297964175601815

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I believe Andrea got it wrong as testimony was the scarf thing was tested and no DNA was found. This is the issue I am having with no video inside the courtroom. I respect the Judge's ruling on that because I believe she is attempting to keep the circus atmosphere to a minimum inside her courtroom. But IMO what that doe is create a hot mess for those of us outside of that room. Multiple MSM reps, youtubers, and podcasters are all reporting different things that contradict one another.

I appreciate those who take the time to listen to the approved sources that are not MSM, but I am sticking with the MSM because I feel they will be more accurate and moreover, be accountable and come back to clarify/correct if they make a mistake. JMO

I believe she reported that. Not going to go back and review 2 hours right now, but I came away with the scarf had been test and dismissed as no DNA was found. I do recall her OPINION that the dismissal of the scarf was questionable but I do recall her saying it had been tested. If I get an opportunity perhaps I can find the timestamp for you if you desire. I'm not sure what MSM is but there are several sources that have been pretty good with the notetaking.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Delphi Murders trial: Day 10 live blog

Day 10 in the trial of Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen begins at 9 a.m. Tuesday. Follow our live blog for the latest developments.

www.wishtv.com

Allen says in the video that he had an individual stock trading account, and was “trying to get rich.” In the video Allen laughs.

Allen says in the video “that was a hobby, I guess, for me,” referring to the question about stocks.

Mullin asks what he was wearing that day. Allen said he was wearing blue jeans and a back off-brand Carhartt jacket.

Liggett asked in the video if he was wearing a hat, Allen said that if he was it would have been the skull cap he kept in his jacket pockets. Allen says he was wearing either tennis shoes or combat boots or work boots. Mullin is seen texting during the interview.

 

[Deleted member 296739]

exactly my point. IMO liars give more details than necessary. A simple it wasn't me, I never saw the girls, and I was gone by the time y'all say they were dead is all that was needed.

Lots of people wear Carharts in the midwest IME. the fact that RA self reported wearing one and BG looks like he was too is not unusual IMO so why is Rick o concerned with that detail? An innocent RA and BG could both be wearing a Carhart that day and it wouldn't be uusual at all.

It is just odd to me. Your mileage may vary.

Don’t know- you asked why he would care- I provided a possible explanation- moo

 

[arielilane]

@KylaBRussell

#NEW: The jury just watched a recording of an Oct. 13, 2022 interview with Allen before the search of his home and later arrest.Allen denied involvement several times.“You’re not going to find anything that ties me to the murders,” he said. Will have more from the video later this afternoon.

10:57 AM · Oct 29, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851277234750783740

 

[shonyakay]

Grey Hughes has a video where he proves it is actually just over 100 ft from where she says she turned around and where platform 1 is. She says she turned around at the gate not where the bridge starts and those 2 spots are 50 ft from each other. Hard to judge distance when asked though and I understand her not knowing the actual distance.

50 feet is the distance contained in the PCA though.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Blair, is Betsy Blair who arrived at the Mears' parking entrance at 1:46 p.m.

She saw "BG" on Platform 1 from 50 feet away shortly before she saw Abby and Libby walking on the trail after they had been dropped off by Kelsi at 1:49 p.m. Abby and Libby were heading to the Monon High Bridge, where BB had just seen "BG" on Platform 1.

That means digital evidence confirms that BB saw "BG" somewhere between 1:46 p.m. when BB arrived, and 2:05 p.m. when Libby, who was standing on the bridge, took a Snapchat photo of just the bridge, between Platform 1 and Platform 2.

When BB left she drove past the Hoosier Harvest Store's camera at 2:14 p.m.

All of this is contained in an official document, RA's PCA.

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2022/11/Probable-Cause-Affidavit-Richard-Allen.pdf

Thank you; I've read it a number of times. It's either believe all of that or doubt the witnesses testimony during the trial.

I'm sure the defense team will have a lot to say about it.

 

[Megnut]

The timeline from witnesses is pretty damming to RA's case but I keep going back to the snapchat photo of Abby on the bridge. No one is behind her. We know from Libby's video that BG is approaching her from the north west and given the timestamp of the "down the hill" video, one might think he should be in the background of the photo. Its such a shame they didn't find the aforementioned snapchat picture on the phone because I have a feeling that the timestamp of when it was taken would not match the timestamp of when it was posted. He had to be hiding off to the side on the NW end and booked it across or behind Libby as she took the picture. I wonder if any of his confessions mention him lingering on the southeast end of the bridge then passing the girls and making a u-turn.

Rsbm

We don't know where RA/BG first encountered Abby and Libby but it was almost certainly within minutes of 2 pm and near the start of the bridge.

While they continued onto the bridge, I think RA/BG followed after BB to make sure she was in fact leaving and no one else was coming.

Then he doubled back and overtook Abby and Libby at the far end of the bridge.

47 seconds. I think he was moving rapidly... and they knew they were in trouble...

Don't leave me up here... Abby was still on the bridge...

Libby was off the bridge, perhaps moving closer then to Abby before he ordered them down the hill.

He disputes the brand of jacket. Really? That's his best defense? That's what separates him from BG?

That's a pretty skinny thread.

IMO when BG comes into focus it's undeniably RA.

JMO

 

[Bergmann]

RA has to prove it was not him on the bridge at the time that is consistent with all the witness statements and a video that is also consistent with his admitted outfit and his appearance. He can do this by either showing he was definitely elsewhere, or there at a time that excludes him as the murderer.

No he doesn't. The prosecution have to prove this to be the case BARD. Which IMO they have failed to do so far.

And we are yet to hear the defense.

JMO

 

[Vaderman]

@KylaBRussell

#NEW: The jury just watched a recording of an Oct. 13, 2022 interview with Allen before the search of his home and later arrest.Allen denied involvement several times.“You’re not going to find anything that ties me to the murders,” he said. Will have more from the video later this afternoon.

I'm mincing words, but "You're not going to find anything that ties me to the murders" is very different from "I didn't commit the murders". IMO.

 

[m00c0w]

exactly my point. IMO liars give more details than necessary. A simple it wasn't me, I never saw the girls, and I was gone by the time y'all say they were dead is all that was needed.

Lots of people wear Carharts in the midwest IME. the fact that RA self reported wearing one and BG looks like he was too is not unusual IMO so why is Rick o concerned with that detail? An innocent RA and BG could both be wearing a Carhart that day and it wouldn't be uusual at all.

It is just odd to me. Your mileage may vary.

Regarding details - just thinking about it, I’m not sure I’d be able to remember what I was wearing on a specific day 5.5 years ago. Especially if that day held little significance for me. He could have easily said he doesn’t remember, could have been any number of things he wore. Instead, he describes clothing consistent with eyewitness accounts and the BG video.

JMO

 

[Niner]

New filing

Motion For Transport Order Motion for Transport of IDOC Inmate Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/29/2024​

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10/29/2024

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Is this for Klein or the other 2 or 3 that were mentioned earlier? You probably don't have access to the "actual" thing, eh? TIA anyway!

 

[BUF]

NEW update on WISHTV

Delphi Murders trial: Day 10 live blog

Day 10 in the trial of Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen begins at 9 a.m. Tuesday. Follow our live blog for the latest developments.

www.wishtv.com

 

[Web_Sleuth]

Both interviews and everything about RA as an individual that I know all give me a “not guilty” vibe.
It’s so strange. Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde

Imo

 

[tlcya]

I believe she reported that. Not going to go back and review 2 hours right now, but I came away with the scarf had been test and dismissed as no DNA was found. I do recall her OPINION that the dismissal of the scarf was questionable but I do recall her saying it had been tested. If I get an opportunity perhaps I can find the timestamp for you if you desire. I'm not sure what MSM is but there are several sources that have been pretty good with the notetaking.

thank you, the post I was responding to said Andrea stated in her podcast that the scarf was never tested for DNA because it had been deemed unrelated to the crime. I have no interest in listening to the podcast myself to try to ascertain if that is what she said in it or not. I was saying if she did say that then she misstated what happened in court.

 

[m00c0w]

Thank you; I've read it a number of times. It's either believe all of that or doubt the witnesses testimony during the trial.

I'm sure the defense team will have a lot to say about it.

Fortunately, the defense team can’t just randomly opine to the jury. They have to elicit testimony, under oath. That’s the large difference between things like the Franks motion and the current situation. They will have to hope witnesses or the prosecution won’t be able to clarify anything the defense tries to impeach with.

JMO

 

[tlcya]

Regarding details - just thinking about it, I’m not sure I’d be able to remember what I was wearing on a specific day 5.5 years ago. Especially if that day held little significance for me. He could have easily said he doesn’t remember, could have been any number of things he wore. Instead, he describes clothing consistent with eyewitness accounts and the BG video.

JMO

unless he couldn't recall if he had told DD back in 2017 hat he was wearing when he spoke with DD in the parking lot. Days after the murder.